Z Brush 4r7 tips ,,(Zmodeler)(nan mesh)(array mesh)(zremesher2.0)

[Thebest12]

I would have suggested the same andreseloy. But I think Thebest12, as he stated ‘any magic button - click and it turns into a shell’, which I believe, if you are looking for that “one click option”, is the unify button. Do it at a low resolution and then reactivate Zmodeler. Voila. But it’s not all within Zmodeler as he wanted - soz.

Thebest12, just out of interest, is there a reason why you are just trying to stay within Zmodeler? Sounds like you might be making hard work for yourself fella to accomplish tasks, instead of using the full range of tools in conjunction with each other. The only thing I can think of is you are comparing with other 3d packages. If that’s the case then, even they are not a one click options. You still have to mess around with sliders/buttons etc for thickness, depth, segments, inner and outer amounts, override material IDs etc (Shell modifier - 3ds max). Anyway good luck in finding that one click button, I hope you find it.

Just had a brainstorm: hmmm wonder if a macro/script could be written for it :idea:

Has the zmodeler tools been setup for macro/script usage? Not delved into this bit of Z modeler yet.

I am against staying in z modeler (no view ports or or real measuring system or folders for subtool), hell I am against staying in zbrush. I am just trying to figure out what zmodeler cant do, and now I know that’s one of them…

Just trying to figure out what I will model in maya and what I will model in z modeler

[Treece]

Thebest12

Cheers for your reply… I see where you are coming from now.

Good luck.

[MarioBlanco]

Hi Treece look this:
http://youtu.be/_I700hCi_wM

[Treece]

andreseloy you are a diamond! many thanks mate and to TheEZHexagon on youtube. Bugger and I was going to play with Substance Designer 5 tonight!!

[lukx]

I must be getting old. I had huge hopes for zmodeler but it feels very awkward for me (old 3dsmax polymodeling user). I would love to buy some really deep tutorial to learn everything how to use it correctly and effectively.

[MarioBlanco]

for download:
ZBRUSH 4R7 Mirror And Weld and Thickness
file http://www.ezbrush.<wbr>mediabakers.com/4R7-Mirror-<wbr>And-Weld.zip
video http://youtu.be/1_9vXhpDJiE
Big Thanks to EZHexagon!

new video fromEZHexagon related to ONE-CLICK SHELL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=OhjNZudg3CI

[Ludvigs]

Anyone had trouble getting cylindrical array meshes to weld? Extrude and close options make no difference. Tried both open and closed meshes.

What I’m trying to do: Take a small part of a cylinder, model it to where i want, use array mesh to duplicate it 360 degrees.

Of course, I can just use the weld points button to fix it up, so I guess it’s more of a curiosity than an actual issue. It seems to weld fine for people using it in timelapses and such though. Am I not getting something?

Another one:

I’m also looking for a way to center the pivot to the zero point of the scene, “World Space” as it were? I find myself manually zooming as far as i can bother to, and placing the pivot for each cylindrical array. Gets old pretty quick

[MarioBlanco]

Deformation Panel>Unify and then in Transform Panel press Set PIvot point
after that with Transpose ON click on the white circle to center the WRE option to the object

[Ludvigs]

Hmm… That centers it to the object, yes, but not to the centre of the scene. I have one part of a cylinder, say 1/4 on one side. I then want this to duplicate in a circular fasion. This means that I then would need the transpose pivot to be in the centre of where the full circle is, not where the current centre of the mesh is. Being able to put the pivot in zero world space would solve this.

[Pendraia]

Thanks for all the great tips!

[Cross22]

In the image below I want to get rid of the orange blocks so that something like an arch remains. I feel that this should be really simple by just QMesh-dragging them inside. But that’s not doing it for me- depending on the settings I end up with either only one row of cubes removed, a group of single-sided quads remaining, or something that’s not correctly aligned with the previous edge loops. So what’s the right way of removing them?

Let’s say my edge loops have gotten a bit off track as in the image below. I found a somewhat lengthy way of fixing it (mask loop, clip, unmask) - is there an easier way of correcting edge loops so they all lie in the same plane again?

[MarioBlanco]

1.for the first item:have you selected the right target? flat island/flat inner?
2.for the second one look Spindel post# 69

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?191472-Z-Brush-4r7-tips-(Zmodeler)(nan-mesh)(array-mesh)(zremesher2-0)/page5

[jmeyer]

Ludvigs - You could try an auxiliary object like an already centered disc or so.
Didn’t try it with array mesh so far,but works great with duplicated
subtools.

[Ludvigs]

That does seem like the best workaround, I’ll see how that works out. Thanks jmeyer

[Ludvigs]

So, I’ve gotten a fair handle on the Zmodeler tools, and hard surfaces are coming along slowly but surely. Except for this:

Square shapes connected to curved meshes. I realize this isn’t a Zbrush specific issue, but a Sub-D one. Still, with the advent of Zmodeler, I’d say it’s a relevant issue. It seems like the only thing I’m failing at creating well at this point.

The simplest example, though I find this comes up in a lot of models:

This is one of the better ones (though not the best) I’ve come up with at a decently lowPoly basemesh. Even here, you can see I’ve ended up messing up the cylinder shape while trying to even out the pinching (started from a 2x2x2 cylinder). Can this be done, and still kept somewhat low poly? I only other way I can see is a very high res mesh that makes the pinch really small. Thusly(sic), you can ignore it if you zoom out and squint a bit Not an ideal situation though.

Yes, we could just insert the box into the cylinder, but then, no nice bevels in the intersection (not that the ones I posted are pretty). It’s also not always convenient to intersect meshes in models.

If anyone’s sitting on a good topology for this, I’d love to see it. I could then figure out some of the quickest ways to Zmodel it, and give my OCD something else to worry about :rolleyes:

[Cross22]

1.for the first item:have you selected the right target? flat island/flat inner?
2.for the second one look Spindel post# 69
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthr…er2-0%29/page5

1. I am trying to remove the polygroup in the center, so I picked “Flat & Polygroup”. Dragging it in a little bit removes the outer cubes but the resulting edges are curved in instead of being perpendicular. If I keep pushing some more it kind of removes the polyloops but leaves some single-sided polys hanging.
   

Instead what I was hoping for is either one of these two results:

2. Thank you. That is the technique I have been using. It’s fine for a small number of fixes, but when I was trying to adjust 20 edge loops it became rather tedious; just hoping there was a better solution.

[pezzott1]

Ludvigs,

You tried creasing or beveling the edges where they intersect before subdividing?

[Floreum]

Has anyone had any luck with zRemesher to spit out perfect or near perfect facial topology? I think I’m on to something and thought I’d share to get others who may have better ideas on the same page.
Anyways, you wanna start by making polygroups for each section and go into zRemesmer and turn on “KeepGroups”. Leave smooth groups on default setting, turn off “Adapt” (this really messes wit the result for some reason). You can either choose to use curves or none, it either makes a big difference, or not at all depending on how you set it up.

Left to right - Original hipoly mesh, zRemesher with curves, zRemesher without curves.

Still trying different polygroup set ups too. cutting up from the middle of the eye/mouth may also yield better results too.

[Cross22]

Also try running zremesher a second time with poly count set to same. This has improved the topology in my simple meshes.

[Pendraia]

Thanks for the tip Andreseloy…