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NO Tilde Key For Tileable Alpha wrap mode OTHER KEYBOARDS (SWEDEN)

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#1

On my MacBook Pro Swedish keyboard…
the tilde key resides under the key next to my enter key on my keyboard (simple press, gets ¨ ) (Shift press, Turns_Yellow_then_Right_key, gets ^ ) (alt press, Turns Yellow_Then right key, gets ~ )
The alt key is all the way over on the left. This is an impossible move to make with normal hands.

I have asked my son to hold down the alt key whist i press the tilde key ^ next to my enter key and it does nothing. PLUS i have to use the right key to make the tilde symbol appear.

The Mac itself can remap a key IF and ONLY IF it has a named shortcut in the applications drop down menu.
So thats out of the question as the menu item for this action i can not find in ZBrush either.
Does anyone know if this fact is true. I can not find it.
So for a mac user, a solution could be arrived at, IF this shortcut were to be found in a ZBrush Drop down menu.
The § key could simply be swapped out with the ~
This i could not try either.
http://lifehacker.com/5720087/how-to-remap-any-keyboard-shortcut-in-mac-os-x Link to film how to swap keys on a mac.

I have tried key remapping software. KeyRemap4MacBook no good.
https://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

I have tried controllermate, nope no good.
http://www.orderedbytes.com

I have found that in French: it’s the “ù %” key ! although i have not tested this.
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?22708-Wrap&highlight=tilde

I beleive the Spaniards had found it but can not find this information any more.

I have heard you can use the space bar but that brings up… yeah, The pallet.

I have heard there are people who can trix around with scripts and macros and stuff that is way beyond me. Can they help somehow.

I discovered that i could move the item around as i wish to to create a tileable texture by using the sliders within the layers pallet with wrap mode active. this works, but if you asked everyone to do it this way they would all say… Forget it. it is very cumbersome and has little or no feeling at all. it is not an answer to the problem. Try it yourself. believe me, you won´t like it.

I could buy an American keyboard to solve the problem but understandably i would prefer to user the keyboard i already have on my MacBook Pro.

I am a new user of ZBrush and had recently bought a course Mastering ZBrush. it got me up to speed fast and i highly highly recommend it, but the first homework we got was making a tileble texture. I was stopped dead in my tracks right there, it put a big downer on the class from the moment i started. It seemed not important and a solution seemed impossible, we could not wast time on that subject just then. I have searched for solutions for over a year now in the hope i could do that class from January 2013. I am still trying.

Surely there must be some answer to this, that does not involve buying a keyboard or a new computer.
Its a little ridiculous to have to go to such lengths. Is there anybody who has solved this oddity of ZBrush.
I would ideally like Pixologic to address this situation and make this function available to me.
Please HELP.

Barnacles

MacBookPro 3.1
Mac OSX 10.9.1
2.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

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#2

Not really helpfull for your case but in Spanish Keyboard the Tilde key for tiling textures is the Ñ key.
I´m pretty sure the tilde key should work with no other key pressed (No Alt, Cmd, Ctrl, shift… ). So if i were you i would just try presing one key and try to tile. Test and error way…

#3

Try the Ö key.

#4

Thanks for the response, I just tried the suggestions and no luck.
Just went through all the keys without pressing alt, and still nothing. :confused:

#5

Upper right of UI has a button for this. Near zoom control button. http://docs.pixologic.com/getting-started/finding-your-way-around/

#6

Thank you Doug
Thats the scroll document button i think your pointing out.
strangely if i press this with ctrl, to bring up the information on this button, it also suggests i can PAN by holding the space bar.
Although when i try to PAN by holding the space bar i simply get the main adjustments pallet. Correct name for that pallet i do not know.

Just tested your suggestion to rule it out but it simply scrolls the whole document window about and does not move the Model (not in edit mode) around the canvas.

#7

Do you want to move it or a duplicate in 3D? If so you’ll need to use transpose. For tiling textures etc, you draw one and draw another without entering Edit mode. HTH, I posted a UI which you might find useful, save your colors and UI before loading it. It’s at the bottom of this thread>> http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?172590-Updated-UI See also http://docs.pixologic.com/user-guide/2d-illustration/the-gyro/

#8

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?34651-Pixologic-Release-Learning-Series-Tileable-Textures

#9

Ok if you can´t use the tilde key or can´t find there is another way to make your document tileable. In Layer palette there are Displace H and Displace V. If you have the W (wrap mode) activated it will work the same as the tilde key.

Hope this helps

EDIT: Forget it, i just read you have tried it.

#10

Ryans film is still using the tilde key???
Okay Doug, Thank you, i have to puts kidlets to bed then i can study this a while.
Thanks for your input,
I´ll let you know how i get on.

#11

Clipped from first post…

I discovered that i could move the item around as i wish to to create a tileable texture by using the sliders within the layers pallet with wrap mode active. this works, but if you asked everyone to do it this way they would all say… Forget it. it is very cumbersome and has little or no feeling at all. it is not an answer to the problem. Try it yourself. believe me, you won´t like it.

#12

More time reading the docs linked to below in my signature will help you come to grips better with the programs operation. Canvas/workspace and tools in particular are important to learn. Happy ZBrushing.

#13

I have not had any success with this yet
as you can see here i have no problem with creating a tilde ~
I have a brick placed on my 512x512 canvas.
I am not in T edit mode.
to reach the tilde key ~ see the above picture.
when and IF you can reach this key with someone elses help.
a yellow text block appears. To then get the tilde i need to THEN press an arrow key (right)
???
changing to a custom UI in crazy colours is not something i truly want to do Doug.
Doug is there something IN your colorful UI that you have omitted to tell me?
I appreciate your involvement and look forward to your reply.

I have submitted a support ticket and hope there might be some joy there.
Just waiting for that response now.

#14

In my post with the UI I stated to save your colors before loading(and your UI) 512x512 isn’t very large… If you wish to move your tool where you see it on the canvas, you can use the deformation pallette. I have sliders on the left for that. You must be in Edit mode. Have you tried using transpose Move after drawing a fresh brick?

#15

Doug, I’m not sure we’re on the same page here at all.
I am trying to make a tileable texture.
Move the dropped tool around the canvas.
So that the right hand side appears on the left.
Just as in the suggested movie of Ryan Kingsleins.
Just as everyone else did in my Mastering ZBrush class day1.
My tool is not in edit mode for this exercise.
and i want to move the dropped tool around freely and intuatively as everyone else can by pressing a key (~) and moving with my pen.
I will admit i am not sitting at my computer just now and have a little resistence to loading you UI.
Resplendent as it is.
perhaps i can dare this, this evening.
keep you posted and thank you for your patience.

#16

http://docs.pixologic.com/getting-started/basic-concepts/ztools-and-edit-mode/
See paragraph with the word Gyro.

#17

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?7895-About-quot-tilde-quot-on-the-keyboard
At least one dead link but maybe good info there. HTH

#18

decorix ; I’m pretty sure i am doing as you mention.
I think the problem lies with my swedish keyboard.
I know others had trouble but they were able to USE their keyboards.
I have submitted a ticket to support but not heard from them yet.

#19

I think you’ve misunderstood something along the learning path. A document size of 512X512 will not fill the canvas area(your workspace) unless you zoom way in. In the Layer pallette is a button to wrap, maybe that is where the problem lies. I sent you a PM.

#20

This macro will do what you want, although not as smoothly as the actual tilde key (the cursor will flash a bit). Save the file to your Pixologic/ZBrush 4R6/ZStartup/Macros/Misc folder, restart ZBrush (or press Macro>Reload All Macros) and assign a hotkey of your choice to the new WrapCanvas button that should be in the Macro>Macros>Misc sub-palette.

Once you’ve assigned a hotkey, press and hold the key to pan and wrap the canvas. There is no need to hold down the mouse button.