To be totaly honnest, I want ZB 3.5 to fully work before they add more to ZB. I cant stand it when half baked featured get added to any applciation, the idear is always bigger than the reality, and that reality is, if it dont work, it dont work, and therefore needs workarounds, or not bother even using it at all.
Zbrush 4 is more than likly going to be when we see GoZ.
For to say its there when its there is unfair when it was in black and white “late september” Pixologic said it.
It was not a dream,even if they changed it now.
I understand them doing a typo with " Its not going to be " and will be in " left out,so people will ask,where is it?
Of course they will not answer .
It does keep the publicity going.
Rather them not say than to tease !
Say nothing at all & just deliver when ready & working.
Believe me Darren old chum,
I’ve seen how Pixo work first hand and they bust a gut to ship when they promise to ship, and I am certain they could have shipped on the last day of Sept. if that was their no.1 priority, but it ISN’T
They won’t ship unfinished code like most other companies just to look good, they have a bunch of people working all over the world to bash the code into the ground trying to make it crash, and looking for ways to make it better. If they find a bug on the day before release they will fix it rather than ship just to look good and keep a few malcontents happy. Have you not noticed how ridiculously stable ZBrush is for such a stupendously intricate and sophisticated piece of code? Sure bugs will turn up when a million people are testing instead of a hundred, but they are few, small, and fixed quickly.
It buggers me how people can whine about a free update being a few days late! And WHAT a free update it is!!! You’ve SEEN what ZSpheres2 alone can do, do you thing something like that writes itself? I promise you, the guys at Pixo are a WHOLE LOT more bummed than you about missing a deadline! How much of your day do YOU spend worrying about it? But they would rather deal with a few poodle-spankers bitching than release a product that doesn’t work.
I assure you I want 3.5 at LEAST as much as you do, but I know they are working their butts off to get it to me, and not have it make my machine explode. They care about their product and about their people - just look how much free stuff is on offer here and at the Pixo website!
Microsoft and Apple get ten times more money out of us and it is usually late AND full of bugs, and guess what, they don’t even READ whining posts like yours!
Sorry mate, but like I said, once you’ve seen how these guys work and how much they care about their product and the experience it provides, you’d never bitch about something being a bit late!
Rant over! :rolleyes:
1 - I totally agree with Slapshot.
2 - While you are waiting for 3.5 please spend your time ‘creating’ something fantastic with 3.1 … like this:
EDIT - I meant to say 'While waiting for GoZ
Amen slapshot !!
Slapshot - dont you REALLY get it? Noone is whining about delay itself. Is that stupid teasing, that announcements, that promises they cannot kept. Pixologic does not have to say ANYTHING before work is done and product ready, dont they? Answer me that question please. Why they do that then? Why they keep on announce something they cannot prepare for the time said?
Noone says soft is bad - is BRILLIANT and those guys coding it are GENIUSES. Just all that teasing thing sucks big time. And that releasing product in parts because is not ready… Z3.5, Z3.5 R2, now GoZ… for what? Just finish that thing and release when youre ready, Pixologic.
Ow, and how you can compare MS products with Zbrush? How many people is using Zbrush and how many say… windows and office? You have ever heard about hackers attacking system thru zbrush? Come on man - common sense and statistics.:rolleyes:
I’d be happy if they’d just fix some of the bugs from 3.0 that are still present in 3.5… cough the flatten bug for example… still doesn’t work without changing the rotation of the object… kind of annoying when you have an object offset and you have to rotate it… lol… yeah…
i have 3.5 actually .Im not mac.Im pc
This is a go z thread ?
Your well over the top,and sarcasm is missed when posting on a thread.:rolleyes:
sorry for my whining post.
Thats my favorite Hulk.
I think you’re being very unfair to Darren, he’s understandably frustrated and the frustration doesn’t come from the delay but from Pixologic’s lack of communication.
How hard would it be to come on to the forum and say “sorry folks we’ve hit some bugs that will take some time to sort out. We’re now aiming for a mid November release” Everyone would be cool with that and most would appreciate the honesty.
Hell even “Sorry folks but we’ve had to shelve GoZ for Windows and the Mac version of 3.5 the next update will now be ZB4 in mid 2010” would be better than silence. People would moan for a while but they’d get over it especially with some juicy previews of ZB4 to drool over in the meantime.
This silence just causes resentment and frustration, I don’t understand why they continue with this policy.
Maybe the updates are free so they can focus on producing awesomeness
and dont have to waste time justifing to annoyed customers that expect
a yearly new version.
In the end its what blawless posted. Everythings already possible if your
able too. 3.5 is a great update but not because of the new features mainly
because its perfectly stable. Not one crash so far.
Sorry Darran, I meant to write ‘While you’re waiting for GoZ’
Please accept my apologies again.
Baz C said it better than i did.
I love my zbrush 3.5 for pc and my new copy of Maya unlimited 2009 will love the plug in of go z once it comes out.
daz
I honestly think you don’t have anything to apologise for, Darran
I know what you’re working on, (& it’s better than any Hulk that much is certain), i know how much time, love and sweat you’ve invested in it, so i understand why you’re frustrated!
Like you, i bought my copy of ZB recently in anticipation of GoZ and without the knowledge that i now have to reinstall 3.1 to get all the old plug-ins to work.
I imagine many of us here are well aware of how much work goes into software dev, and I doubt any of us thinks PIxologic did anything other than work like dogs for the last push. Deadlines are tough, especially where code is concerned. But, let’s face it, communication has been sketchy, (and that’s when you know where to look for it).
Must admit though that what I’m finding a little saddening is the frequent bearing of teeth whenever someone has something negative to say against Zbrush’s current state of functionality/ progress.
Darran, you tell it how you feel it, (me old chum); customer feedback must always be valued, however good or bad it is!
Brandon,well i have done something while i was waiting for goz.
It was something that i wanted to do for ages.Tonight I think i cracked my duck of getting my Upper jaws from my shark into maya & rendered out in mental ray.It looks really great ,although increaseing polycount in the approx editor to get all the detail was a 1m 37 sec render.
I personally always had terrible problems with understanding the technical aspects of this side of the art,I never thought id be able to do it myself,thats why i was counting on go z more.
But this was much more satisfying to see it rendered out knowing i set it up.
and this time I understand more how and why i did it.
Ill up the pic soon(need some sleep),& bring my shark together at last and rendered in detail in maya.
So i guess this member might not need go z today as much as he did yesterday.
Thanks for those words guys it motivated me in a very positive way.
Darran
just curious but has anyone seen any smoke signals or heard any drums on when we might see the next update by any chance?
I was wondering the same thing, thought I would come here to check…
Any ideas for a release time of GoZ on a PC? I dont care about the wait, I just don’t want to miss it!
Same time 3.5 comes out for Mac?
I’m loving GoZ, you’re loving the new ZSpheres in the mean time. 
Maybe we should all buy Mac’s and PC’s… this should solve the problem… always up to date!!!