Well, Siggraph this year has been fun, but I can’t wait till next year. I wonder what other features there’ll be in pixologic’s next zb 2.5 previews. I decided to stick with maya 32bit 'cause of zb. And the ILM pirate article preview’s been great too! (Will there be any more of them preview?)
Frustration vented (no hard feelings), now I need to say Congratulations on a great software, it’s a very rare innovation in computer technology that’s done right. And don’t worry about all other zbrush clones, nothing beats the original, plus all the fanbase and community of developers with all their free plugins!
Does anyone knows if the new ZBrush 2.5 will be compatible with the Mac Intel systems? With all the power of the new desktop system announced today by Apple, I hope that is.
I am just a hobbiest, but I would be willing to pay 50 - 100 dollars for this upgrade just to speed up the developement cycle for the next upgrade. These guys have great ideas, they could benifit from more resourses. (no I do not work for Pixologic)
We are so “damn impatient,” wise guy, because some of us have, or will very soon be getting, Intel-based Macs. Apple has now converted its entire product line to Intel. And ZBrush 2.0 Does. Not. Run. on Intel Macs. We can’t use ZBrush 2.0 at all.
I agree. I have an Intel Mac. I would be patiente if ZBrush 2.0 ran on my mac but it doesn’t. SO, for those of us who can’t run Zbrush on our intel macs… we have the right to be inpatient. As of a couple of days ago Mac has gone intel. Go ahead, go to the Apple store and check it out. So from now on if anyone decides to buy a new mac… Zbrush 2.0 won’t be able to run on it. That is why so many of us can’t wait until Zbrush 2.5 comes out.
Maybe thats the very reason why it isnt out. I rekon for majority, they just want to get their hands on the new tools. I dont think Taron was refering to the people that cant and rightly so should beable to use zbrush 2.
If the majority of so called inpatient people cant wait due to intel going to mac then it should be stated in their hurry for the new version when posting. I havent as of yet seen any, athough im sure there are some, this is how some post could be taken as inpatient and winging, hence Tarons post.
I disagree. When you bought ZBrush 2.0 you bought it in the knowledge that it was for the specified system requirements. If Pixologic decide to update ZBrush for different specifications then that’s a bonus. If that update is free you’re getting a double bonus.
I read the Intel Macs now have the capability to natively run Windows (but not without a little tweaking)… Not saying you should switch to the PC version of ZBrush, but now it’s an option for Mac users. Not really sure how well it works, but I read it works well. I have thought about it myself in case there are future ZBrush plugins released first on PC (Zmapper for instance).
I just hope there aren’t any future 2.5 plugins that are released for PC first then Mac months later. But if for any reason there’s a definate advantage to using the PC version of 2.5 over the Mac, I will seriously consider it.
Apple supplies a utility called Boot Camp which will allow you to install a licensed, purchased copy of Windows on a separate partition and boot into Windows instead of OS X.
Note the words licensed and purchased. You must purchase a copy of Windows XP and install it on the Boot Camp partition. Got that? In addition to having already paid for the OS X operating system that’s now on your Mac, you must also buy a copy of XP.
Once that is done, you can now boot into Windows or XP. One or the other. Not simultaneously. If ZBrush will install and run properly (there may still be hardware-specific issues), you may now run ZBrush while booted into Windows. Of course, you will have to shut down and boot back into OS X to run any other application.
There is also a very ingenious third-party product called Parallels. This allows you to run a virtual machine on an OS X system, into which a licenced, purchased (once again, that’s licensed and purchased, and it does not include the price of Parallels itself) copy of Windows can be installed. How well will ZBrush’s intensive memory optimization run in a virtual machine? Good question; I invite anyone who’s successfully done it to let us know. One thing that does not work under Parallels as of this writing is a USB Wacom tablet, so even if ZBrush works properly, you’ll be reduced to using a mouse.
Part of my job is to evaluate software products like Parallels and Boot Camp. And you can take it from me that no matter what rumors you might have heard on someone’s website, neither of them are in any way an acceptable alternative for running ZBrush natively on an Intel Mac.
No VirtualPC or anything?
VPC does not run on Intel Macs, nor does Microsoft intend to produce an Intel Mac version. Parallels (see above) has already beaten them to the punch. It would be irrelevant in any case, for VPC was always a notorious system hog with mediocre response time at best.
I’m getting more than a bit weary of our impatience at having to wait for V2.5 of ZBrush before we can run it on Apple’s product line being brushed off by people who think they heard from someone, somewhere that there’s magic software that makes the whole question irrelevant. There isn’t, and it doesn’t. Yes, I know, a radical product revision takes time, but OS X users aren’t simply a bunch of whiney adolescents who can’t wait to get their hands on the shiny new tools. Users of Intel Macs – and all Macs are now Intel-based – have a very real and legitimate reason to be concerned about the release date of ZBrush 2.5.
as jiw2 stated… for these reasons im waiting i think till 10.5 is out, or january… even though i do need to replace my home system… the mac community is still without a version of zmapper for ZB osx 2.0… I think only some ppl have had success with Zapplink, i have not been one of them… i think the ever changing mac landscape hasn’t helped get 2.5 out the door… so i’m very anxious to hear any ZB intel mac info.
the one good thing about the switch to intel is it seems its forcing/casuing a lot of software companies to re write, optimize, clean up etc their mac versions of software. Frankly they have no choice, they can no longer use their codewarrior ports and need to embrace xcode which means faster apps for us.
jiw2 > ZB2 will not work under rosetta? again im hoping for a better implementation in 10.5
I see there are many people critiquing ZB mainly for its UI and some things in its workflow while i can see some of their reasons,tools are tools.
ZB has some of the coolest features i’ve seen into a piece of software. it is the only one you can really feel its artistic in its nature, maybe together with painter and artrage. it works well, it does alot of things very well and with just a click of a button.
Z spheres are a wonderful tool, also. i think to them as the future for modelling organics especially since we’ll be able to retopology our meshes and use spheres to pose geometry too. wow.
Now, some people should ask themselves what other software have such a tool that allows to create characters quite from scratch, and in the near future to get it ready for animation purposes.
create geometry for a character, sculpt , texture and prepare maps, create from it a low poly geom for animation… and all within one app.
this IMO surpasses the whole organic modelling process in traditional apps and allows the artist to obtain astonishing results with a more streamlined workflow, and BTW through the use of disp maps.
Thanx alot for your plugin, and even if i’m not a Messiah user keep up with the great work.
Corrention. I bought ZBrush because I was told that when the UB came out that it was going to be a free upgrade. I took the chances or purchasing it due to the fact that Modo went up in price after they came out with their update. It was free to users but extra for new users. I contacted Pixologic and they advised that I purchase ZBrush right now.
I don’t think i’m gonna purchase a copy windows and a new version of zbrush just so i can use it. Thanks for the info, though.
Just to make it clear ZBrush will not run under Rosetta mode.
Lets get back to the topic at hand, please. I was just stating that some of us were waiting for the UB version since Mac went all Intel.
I will assume that ZBrush 2.5 will come with Universal/Mac Intel support, it only makes sense at this point in development.
With the new 2.5 feature of Mesh Extraction, I can see a great use for making cloth elements from converted mesh objects in Maya. Talk about a perfect fit :),
Gee Johnny, what are you the Forum police? I think YogiFish is asking in the right place. This is all about the new ZBrush. So will they be releasing an intel version? By guessing wildly I would have to say of course!
As a Mac user, I hate to do this, but you’re making it difficult to respect myself…
Stop there.
Seriously. No.
If you depend on ZBrush to make money, you’re running ZBrush 2.0 right now. You own a Windows PC, a PowerPC Mac, or you installed Windows on your Intel Mac without flinching. Period. Otherwise, you’re not running ZBrush, so you can’t very well depend on it for paying jobs.
If you are investing in ZBrush to make money right now, you’re learning ZBrush 2.0 until the new version comes out. You own a Windows PC, a PowerPC Mac, or you’re installing Windows on your Intel Mac. Period. Otherwise, you’re not learning ZBrush, so you can’t very well expect to make a living with it anytime soon.
If you depend on any piece of software to make money, you will do what you have to to comply with it’s requirements. I don’t care how distasteful it is to give Microsoft another dollar, or to fill your hard drive with bloated ineffective code. If you are a professional, you will do what you have to.
The alternative is to wait, stop learning, and moan to the world that people more flexible and dedicated than yourself are stealing all the jobs.
On the contrary, the question was irrelevant with or without a magic solution.
People don’t need to hear “from someone” that you have options to not care that you’re more entitled to be upset than they are. They’ll brush you off because they themselves would rather be productive. They’ve been angry, it got them nowhere. So, get used to it. When you move on, you won’t want to look back either.
Nobody said that. They’re saying to balance your idealism with a dose of reality. We’re not getting a release announcement until the date is written in stone. That story’s not changing regardless of your perspective. Entitled or not, you have to wait for it.
Meanwhile, explore other options and share your experiences. You say you’ve been evaluating Boot Camp? Great! Download the ZBrush trial version and let us know if you have any problems.
If you’re about to tell me you’ve evaluated the solution without ever trying it, let me save you the trouble – you’re speaking from a place of emotion, not evidence.
Again, and I know this is harsh… If ZBrush is important to you, you’ll make it work now. You. Not them. Because it’s your destiny that hinges upon it.
False.
New in-store purchases are now Intel, but in-home existing Macs are all over the spectrum, and so are the refurbs sold directly through Apple’s site.
The pro line is very expensive, and not everyone has upgraded. Nor will everyone that does so go with the newest model – if budget’s an issue, pros would rather buy an older pro machine than a newer consumer model. Especially for ZBrush. The G5 maxes out at 16 gigs of RAM. An iMac or Macbook Pro maxes out at 2. Do the math.
So, the PowerPCs are very much still alive, and will remain so at least until the Quad Cores come out first quarter next year (and the previous generation’s Dual Xeon drops in price).
It’s a minor detail, but one you’re putting a lot of weight on, so you might as get it right.
that allows to create characters quite from scratch, and in the near future to get it ready for animation purposes.