I love how this one is turning out. Awesome detail on the corset. The texturing is top notch.
ThanX Dark Messiah: I’m glad your liking it.
Ron: Thanxs again, I hav’nt an unpublishbal one yet. But some of the ideas I knocked up befor seting on this one, I thought might be a bit too much for peoples tastes. My mind can crawl into som very dark areas, if I allow. But for the first image, I decided to keep it relativly tame. Not knowing how subversive the forums will allow an image to be.
And I’ve seen some threads, where just for having nude model WIP, the artists has been slapped for not stating nudity.
N’Way I shall post a hi res version of this, when finidhed if people are interested in a copy.
ok back to update on the head , I’ve worked more round the eyes, replaced the teeth and built up the Jaw, and added fangs, ones off its mark I know, lends more to the predator look I initially was going for.
Ok C+C, there are areas I feel still need work, but I’ll wait and see if anyone picks up on them. first
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love the updated head…and now I understand more of the snake like feeding habit…the bottom jaw is apparent to me now…stretchy skin between the two distinct areas of chin (not connected cept by muscle and skin) . I saw a program about monster sized snakes and their feeding techniques. They showed a dead snake with a partially swallowed human. I couldnt at the time rotate the shoulders of the man in order for it to swallow it’s prey…a policeman shot it before it could accomplish this. Swallowing it staight on expanded the elastic between the chin parts to it’s max. So when the policeman came upon the scene, the snake was making grunting noises. The snake apparently was a very unhappy camper at that point…frustrated, tired and gagging I guess…
anyhoo…(we all have our darksides I guess…lol…) yeah, there is a little censorship from time to time around here… 
but I understand some of it, due to the fact we do have quite a few very much younger users of z on zbc…14 is the youngest I have met so far (guess he would be 18 by now though…lol) time flies when yer z-ing:D
areas that might need a bit more detail…
the muscles/tendons around the fangs…
the ear is just a tad lumpy…(not that I can do better)
maybe some vertical lines under the cheeks (in between the cheeks and jawline) modeled in defining her powerful musculature. I know if too much is done, she might lose the thing that makes a female face female.
maybe some tiny veins modeled around that beautiful bald head… (thing swith veins are always somewhat scary for whatever reason)
if that mouth can close(?), like a normal jaw and pallette, I might either turn the bottom fangs a bit inward or something…even though it’s a fantasy pic, and things don’t have to be like normal anatomy, the bottom fangs might not serve a purpose other than an asthetically pleasing smile for the viewers??
I hope I didn’t sound like I was nit picking, I have been studying this update for the last 30 minutes or so…a very fixating image…
thnx for sharing your darkside and I know I am loving your wip process and all the updates.
thnx for sharing,
Ron
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found this pic of a dog from the movie blade trinity…showing their approach to that split chin concept…might give you more ideas…
Hi everyone
Ron: Thanks for all your comments and crits, they are really appreciated. And I don't see it as nit picking, One of the reasons, I post here is for people to nudge me on areas that I have eather, not thought about or just forgot to do.;)
Contructive Critique, is every artists Alia. And in my mind, if an artist of any form can’t take it, then I wonder how they expect to improve on their ability.
Wich goes for amatures and Pro’s.
I do intend to add some vains, I tried last night but for some reason PM wouldn’t pick the texture up. THought I had stencil on but it wasn’t so I don’t know why it was doing it.
Will take on your point about some verical lines by the cheeks for muscles, hadn’t thought of that. I have worked around the fangs, so they sit better, and will look at adding tendons around them.
I have worked a bit more on the ears, but your right they are lumpy (not my stongest point with ears, somtimes I can model ears and they just work fine a lot of the time I find them a pain to get right.
And great ref image from Blade, I may start looking these sources now. I go out of my way not to look at other creations, till I’ve got my own character near finished. Like with the mouth, where I new I wanted a Predator style, but if I had gone and looked up images of the predator. I feel it would have filtered to much into my own design. So I modeled from memory, and I still havn’t gone and checked up to see how close I got.
Ok so here is where I’m at, I’ve used one of antropus’s, lightsets for this which I feel really shows it off, But I intend to creat my own for the final piece as it doesn’t fit with the mood I want to convey.
Still need to texture the cloth up, I’m also going to see waht she looks like with a nice ugly toungue hanging from that mouth then I need to start completing the chair, get the textur right (Looking to painted at the mo) then I’ll start adding stap restraints and cabeling.
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Not sure how I feel about the teeth. Less Ginamouth for sure, more like a snake now. The colors area bit bland right now, I think you could use spray over the whole head dark brown flecks of colors and darken the tongue portion. Also the eyes are flat, so I think you might want to add a refractive lens over the eyes to get them to look a bit more wet. The pupil could be pushed inward more to create a cavity. The ears are a little lumpy and odd shaped (I guess, its hard to tell with her!).
The skin texture looks good. Is it painted from scratch, or using actual skin images? I like the little beads of sweat on the forehead. Nice work with the tattoo also.
Thanks Womball, I’m pretty happy with the fangs, but not sure about the inner teeth now. The texture, does need to be deeper I agree, this light setup fades out a lot, but gives a realistic look. Eye’s being flat!! yes I would like to get them to look glossy and rounded. How do you add a refractive lens? Can this be done in ZBrush, not heard that tip before. And the ears, I know they’re lumpy I keep going back to them, and then stoping when they start to go wrong.
Thanxs Dark Messhia, The skin texture is all from scratch, but I may turn to some actual photo images, to see what difference it makes. The beads of sweat are created using antropus’s skin shader tutorial, where you use 5 different materials set at various specular levels.
The tattoo, I wasn’t sure about it, I want a tattoo there, just not sure if this design fits. I wanted to add a good chinese dragon design, but couldn’t find one.
Playing the arm vein
Ok this is an Idea, I’ve been playing with in my head and finaly got to put it to effect.But now I’ve done it, I can’t decide if it works. I know the colour is completly wrong and the vein probrably needs to be thinned out and wrapped around the fingers better. so comments and suggestions on your views. Thanks
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I think the vein should be dark red and it should sag a bit. Right now it looks like a wire. And maybe not with a constant diameter. But then it should work I’d say. 10 out of 10 weird points 
Lemo
PS:The chair materail/texture really does not work anymore compared to the great other textures. 
Thanks Lemonnado: I aggree on your points, about it needing to be thinner along stretches and darker. With the chair, I a fair bit to do, retexturing and there are restaint straps, and electric wiring to add. Which should be done in the next few days.
Cheers
Don’t know how I missed these before, but just wanted to say congrat’s, not just upon the art, but the concept as well which is excellent.
That’s some imagination, and I can’t help but think you should work on a group scene with these weird female creatures of yours. I can just picture them sat around a lush gothic fireplace, with deep red velvet curtains in the background - that sort of thing. I have absolutely no idea what a group of females could all be doing in a group scene like that, but I’m sure you’d think of something 
Nice 
Just a quick post before work.
Thanks for the comments,Pumeco. I have intentions of a piece with all the sin eater characters in one image. Not sure on the setting yet though. So may give your idea some thought.
been working on the chair, textures and straps. Used a combination of Jantims, metals. Still not fully happy with it but it’s better than the wood, I wanted it to be wood but just can’t seem to get the texture to look rea enought. Started to add the straps, to awhile to find the right formula to model them. ended up using Zspheres as they allowed me to pose each stap as I placed them. Still needs tweaking but it’s getting there.
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That image gives me the creeps now!
Lemo
That image gives me the creeps now!
Lemo
Really nice work , I like the lighting and skin tone, I’m just a little bit scared, but Its ok :D, keep posting.
I’m home sick today - I should not have looked at this!
Very nice work
Hi Panstar!
I’ve been watching this thread for a long time, and it is turning out to be awesome, just felt the urge to reply again, to heap more praise on your work.
I love the latest one (LuXuria). That’s one dangerous mouth
Keep up the great work, I think this should be on top row by now - it deserves it.
Jit.
i feel like someone is doing that with my vein. great work.
Hi Everyone
mantodea/jit_gohil/Blaine91555/Mausan/lemonnado Thanks for your resent comments.
been pushing away at this, need to start thinking about going over to photoshop for hairstyles soon, have a few ideas in mind.
well this is where i’m at.
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Im liking the progress. The vein looks good now that its got a more “meatier” look. I also think the stone look you gave the chair. It works much better than the wood material you had on it.
DarkMessiah: thanks for the comments, Yes I am a lot happier with the chair, mixing materials brought the texture out, and adding some brackets to the joins, broke it up. I may have one more stab at a different, metal texture.
Ok I’ve added jewllerey (Bangles, Pearls,Ring) befor nipping over to PS for the hair. would like some feedback on the hair. there are areas I feel I need to work on. But as usual I’ll wait and see if anyone else picks up on them, that way I know its not just me being over critiqual with my work.
I’m nearing the end, of this one, and should have a full res, available in a few days.
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