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The Sin Eater (WIP)

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#81

Thanks Ozone1979

Art4Med: Hi mate, the rigging. Ok everything is done in ZB, except for
top torso /Arms and hands. they are from poser. Why did I go halfway in ZB and then pinch part of a model from Poser?

Well I don the Legs and waist and then moved on to the top torso all in Zspheres. When it came to posing, I had a nightmare first with the legs, eveytime I got that right leg upto where I wanted it, it lost all it’s geometry or buckled out. Eventually I got them to something I was happy with. Then came the top body, new ZSphere set, this time I thought I will check the poserbility of the spheres regulary to avoid the same problems, and I jsut could not get them to work, the moment I touched the fingers Splat!! So I had all the parts but no arms/hnds or chest. So I stole from Poser, there is fair bit of cover up going on, but as it’s only for Illustrative purpose and I can’t see it ever going to animation. I’m keeping quites as to where thos cover-ups are though. If anyone points them out I know I have to go in cover-up a bit more. Sorry for the long narrative.

#82

Ok the leg straps are not going the way I hoped, so ihave moved to trying her with a skirt. I’m prepared to persist with the straps as I’m still smitten with the concept just need to work out the best way of producing the ultimate result. But I am pleased with the skirt. Feedback would be great here
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#83

just a quick skirt update, with more folds than the previous
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#84

Thanks,
I had just wanted to know your workflow in getting the pose, thanks for the narrative.

If, as you say, “just” for illustration, any flaw in 3D can be PSDd.

The skirt looks great — would love to see the shadows on a textured render WIP, even if its a regional render… take our eyes off the pelvis and we would want to study this unique creature more. BTW, the cups mebbe a bit loose, eh?

regards,

#85

Art4MEd: Thanks, for the feedback. And thanks for pointing out the loose cups, I completley missed that. I can see whats gone wrong, when I reposed it, I’ve placed the corset sitting to low and off angle.

Whith the thigh area, I’m going draw the skirt, down a bit more. I don’t want to hide the thigh area completley, but just a enought titilastion, to add to the seductive mood, she’s supposed to express. I am happy with the skirt although I think I will have to do another piece with the leg straps. Just need to plan the straps out more.

#86

Hey I am really liking this design…I agree about the cups needing to be raised a bit…but that should be an easy fix…

She is creepy but sexy…there is an episode of the Masters of Horror, that had a freaked out looking psycho killer mutant chick that was in the same shape…gnarly head and sumptuous body…so I am really digging your concept here.

You stared that she wouldnt probably be animated…I got to thinking about that…I don’t know if you saw the movie Silent Hill? There were a group of nurses that were like your female, hot bods and wretched faces…they moved about herky jerky …I pictured your model walking something like that…just a thought…

I really look forward to the textured version of the Sin Eater.

Bravo,

Ron
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#87

you are my hero!

#88

:eek:

#89

This is really shaping up nicely! Other than moving the bra cups up, I would suggest making the panties tighter. They look odd loose. There is a term that involves camels which is what the panty area should look like. But I don’t want to go into it. :lol:

#90

Thanks for the coments:
FilthUponYou: thanks! I’ve havn’t had any hero worship, since my touring days 12 years ago.:D;)

Doron: eek!, did she spook you:D

Ron. Thanks, I hav’nt seen Silent Hill Yet, I’ve played the game which has the nurses in it if I recall, and yes. I could see her doing that jerky walk. though I had imaged her to act and walk pretty normally. So her victims, would approach her unasumingly of any knowledge that she’s is what she is.

Nor have I seen Masters of horror, but would be intrigued to see.

I’m considering a mesh vail across the mouth, If I can get tranparency to work as I don’t wish to hide the mouth just conceal the mystery a bit. a Working idea I should say.

Wombal: Thanks, I totaly agree about the panties, they do need working on. I orriganly planned on just painting lace nickers on to the groin area. But the zphere leg rig, really buckled out there, so I’ve had to model the panties in to cover up. I know what your saying about the camels humps, or i think i do:D

be back soon with new posts

#91

more like toes.

#92

You clearly have an extrordinary talent for design and the creation of beautiful work, far greater than mine. But, I do think that this has some serious anatomical problems. If these teeth are to have some function they need to be rooted in bone. They appear to be more like thorns adorning the skin in this image. The lower teeth would not be even able to move since there is no skin between them.

You need to think about what is under the skin here. Where is the jaw. How does it move. Eveloution happens for a reason. You need to make her mouth look like there was a reason for it to evolve this way. It has to appear like all the parts work together correctly. You still have a normal horizontal jaw line, how does that function with teeth that are vertical?

This is what makes sifi design really hard in my opinion. You clearly have an enoumous understanding of human anatomy and know that is what gives your characters life, so you need to have the same understanding of the anatomy of this character and build on that.

Gregg… beautiful work!!!

#93

Thanx MacGregg: For your crits, and feedback. And i couldn’t aggree with you more with regards to the jaw anatomy. Art4Med, also pointed that part out to me, and I have given it a lot of thought. I can visualise how the jaws would work, which is in a kinda sawing/grinding motion. But to put, this to effect in the image so that it shows that, is a different ballgame.

I’m gonna be re-doing the teeth anway, as at the moment they are one block of Zshperes, and I’ll have more control getting them to sit where I want them by modeling them as singles.

There is a jaw bone ridge in the mouth for them, but try to align the teeth to it, has been a tease.

Working in Si-Fi I guess can be taxing, but i enjoy the challenge and it allows me to think outside the box. I try to think of originals, but you always find someones had a similar idea.

Thanks again,

#94

Jaw issue…hmmm

In one of the Blade movies the new vamps had a similiar mouth…

Also on the movie Dreamcatcher by Stephen King , the critter took on a similiar mouth.

Maybe she attaches herself like a lamprey type eel or something and just uses the teeth for holding while she drains the fluids out of her victims…

just some thoughts…

and on the toes…lol…better camel toes than moose knuckles :lol:

looking forward to more of this wonderful work.

ron

#95

ThankX Ron, for those thoughts and it seems your almost there with the way I see her feeding habits, and jaw action. I kinda invision, her jaw to work sort of like a snakes, it dislocates and opens out into a kind of sucker.

I see the jaw bone( if we strip away the flesh) working lile a praying Mantids forlegs, so the jaw I guess would have 3 joints to it, so that it can extend out. It would be a slow feed, but I see here ingesting her prey almost complete like a snake, but grinding the body down ( as if going into a sawmill) after her feed she would apeare pregnant with her swollen belly.

I don’t really want her just sucking the blood out, like a leach. As Gluttony, do’es that with his serpants. He’s kinda like a walking living lyposucksion machien, leaving just the bonebag of his prey.

Cool I enjoy this feedback, it keeps me ticking away

Here are the latest, I’ve re-set it all for the layout as I messed up on a couple of the markers and couldn’t get various parts to fit where they should have.

Started to add texture, still more to do to the body, and will be paintinf fishnets on to the legs, to cover the horrible shading thats gone on there.

The head seems to have been squashed somehow, so I’ll be going back to correct that, sculpt a bit more.

And the eyes are screwed I know they where thrown in at the last minute.
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#96

Uhhh… this is getting VERY Freudian. I am afraid I am never going to be able to look at this the same way again… Just what are you modeling here?

Gregg
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#97

Hi Greg

Freudian? Not quite sure what you mean.

She’s a creature that feeds on on the virtues of one of the 7 deadly sins, she’s called Luxuria, and represents Lust. So I felt she needs to be posed in a seductive/ Lustfull pose. I kinda feel she would haunt areas of vice, so there needs to be,IMO, an element of seedyness and horror. Sorry, don’t meen to offend.

#98

I was trying to be clever in saying that this strongly resembles another part of a womans anatomy…:o

#99

Greg: right, I see. yes I mentioned to Art4Med, that origanly I was going for a mouth type as on the predator alien. but as the shape became apparent, i was going to scrap the idea. but then thought it probrably suits the character being for lust. And once i added the teeth, it took the elementy away a bit.

I weren’t sure if you where refering to, my post about her taking on a pregnant look after feeding. Or the method in which, i decribed her feeding habits.

But yes I can see the fruadian, aspect with the mouth. It has been a cause of concern with me, not wanting to offend people d oto the content of the image. As well as being aware that, young people are veiwing. I wanted to change the thread title, to add an explicit and violent nature warning. But I can’t do it.

N`way glad you still like it, more posts coming later.:wink:

#100

love it…it is my screen background now :slight_smile: if you do one very unpublishable on this forum I would love a copy of it.:smiley: Love the concept and execution you have given this…bravo.

thnx
Ron
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"stuff isn’t dirty unless your mother catches you looking at it…lol…otherwise it doesn’t count :slight_smile: "