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#4

Ok, discovered a few cool things.

I could not get the mesh to displace at 3.4 million polys (level 6). It gave me usual mem error, then a more signifigant not enough virual mem and just would not do it. Tooooo bad as it look crazy wicked (in displacement mode).

So, I settled for doing it at level 5, around 800,000 poly’s. Worked great, detail got a bit soft. Need to do the face and blend all the snakes etc… but wow, saved a TON of work. Anyhow, here are some quick pics. Sorry for shadow wierdness but I am not sure yet how to get them correct. Probably need more rays and length.

Cheers

This is right after I applied displacement at level 5, did not touch a thing yet as far as playing with it. Homer sleep now…

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#5

ooo this is nice, it feels a bit soft, but like you said you just went up an itteration so you just gota go pop ur detail again =)

cheers

#6

Yah, agreed. It is soft… good news is figured out how to get it to take at level six.

I did the base snake at 7, but I was losing two levels before, as I had to project it back at level five… looks way sharper now. Need to go back and mess with a few things before I do it for good, but will post a new pic tomorrow of the projection at six.

Now sure what to do with the girls head. Leave her nice or make her have more of a snake face. Worry about that later : ) Any ideas? Could have different kinds of snakes too.

#7

I Like. You gonna post her with texture?

#8

Only a few hours in so lots to go…

Cheers.

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#9

:+1: :+1: :+1: Awesome work! …this is going to be fun to see completed.

#10

Cool stuff! I’ve always wanted to do a medusa head too but don’t know if I’d have the patience, heh. Looks like it’s coming along nicely.

#11

Still very cool,keep 'em coming…:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:

#12

Awesome!
:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:
Lemo

#13

Have you gotten to the face yet? It seems to lack detail compared to the (awesome) snakes.

#14

No mate, no work on face yet. Just got snakes on there and started trying to blend them in.

The patience thing… me neither. That was why I cheated and did only one : ) But I need to work each snake and yes by snake 17 I’m sure I will be pullling hair out. Or it will be just falling out on it’s own! Can you imagine painting every snake from scratch, and there is no symmetry tool on each snake, so no just doing half. Nightmare!!! It would take forever.

#15

Well, I new this would be crazy but…

Ok, having worked this a bit, and because of the linear workFlow, I need to reDo it right back to the base snake. The snake UV’s are too small to take a texture and I really want to paint this. Besides, there are a few areas lacking geometry and I can afford to add a “few” faces. Plus, I would like to try a few different snake designs, so any ideas, comments, suggestions would really be helpful.

Thanks.

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#16

she s not sexi :confused: :+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:

#17

the only thing i would roast you about is why do your snakes have to look so freakin good!? that looks like it was quite the labor of love. i would have cried mid-way through i think. :lol:

#18

I like it a lot. :+1: :+1:

Some random thoughts…

The face seems a little flat? Perhaps elongated a bit? Even with the snakes it’s still the focal point of the figure. The shape of the eyes is good and I like the lips. Her teeth need something though. Maybe some pointy ones, or knock a few out? Damn I love ths shape of the snake head. It might be cool to work some scales down onto the parts of the face.

BTW, If you want something to be roasted over I think you’re going to have model a BBQ pit.

#19

gr8 work man! its getting insane with every post. :o
but yes u may need sum diff snakes sticking out also. perhaps sum smaller n thinner ones in the front(like small hir strands) and really long and thick ones on the back. persnally i’d also add more details on the under eye lid.

neverthelss gr8 work.:+1:

happy medusing!!

#20

I like. Excellent solution on the forehead, back and shoulders. Hmm… she doesn’t have abnormal teeth. Guess even she can’t suck blood from the stones she makes…

At this detail would be a nightmarish lost-wax mould, but totally cool as jewelry!

Newbie Q:
Do these facial features add a ton of polys at level 5? Theoretically, could you get level 6 detail to render if you used the skull as a snake base (fewest polys possible. skull top only, no features)? Then detail the skull separately, and join (group?) them later? Like giving her a snake wig?

Or, snake half-wigs, since their bases don’t seem to cross a centerline, side-to-side… render 2 topsides and a head?

#21

Thaaaaaank you. That’s what I am looking for.

Not sexy? Agreed, lol, how do I make her more sexy? I am a bit new to trying human faces and perfect females seem most boring as there is no detail. No wrinkles, or warts or anything. Guess I could just try a different basic shape for face? Poutty lips… was going to go other way and make her hideous!

Face got a bit flat with morph to mouth open. Agreed also on teeth. As an after thought I had stuck two planes in her mouth and so basically the teeth are modeled from a plane… which is just dumb on my part. When I dump it out of here back to Maya I will put in a real set of teeth. So what, rotted gums and yellow/brown teeth : )

What to put under eyeLid. I use alot of pics as reference but they are all airbrushed I guess for magazines. No wrinkles on younger women. I think I need to age her and add alot more detail. I will try a few looks.

And yes… this is level 6, 3.2 million polys. Still not enough on snakes really but that is it. There are just too many (22) and they really chew up alot of geometry no matter how you look at it : ) Plus in final render they are reasonably small.
Yup, I could easily tear off snakes, leave an overlap and do in pieces. But the way the math works out… two halves of snakes. They are around 2 mil and even that would make 8 (not doable) at level 7. If I ripped them in half, yes, I guess I could go up one more level for purpose of detail and Displacementmap generation.
These just ZB problems. Sort of been doing two versions. One to try and get back to Maya, one just for a bust in here.

Thanks for suggestions, back after I try some of them.

#22

Hey, I disagree! I liked the fact she had no wrinkles. I’ve got the Ray Harryhausen hag version in mind, (Clash of the Titans) so a younger version is like a backstory. The challenge is: how do you portray evil or fury or demonic power without looking like a hag? I mean, Medusa must have been young once.

LOL-- actually I responed at an emotional level, because she looks like my sister-in-law on a rant!

The snakes you modelled are beautiful, and obviously poisonous. I was toying with the idea of posting a request to try coral snakes. No pit viper head, just a shape at both ends that would make it appear like very thick strands of hair.

And, because they are identified by color (“Red-on-yellow; kill a fellow…”) she’d have hair that would make anybody take a look-- and turn to stone doing it. Also, you could render more of them, as the scales are less pronounced. Just a variation… there are probably toxic vine snakes or whip snakes that are even better for use as hair…

Actually, I was more intrigued with the L6 problem you had-- I’m gonna need a solution to the same, as soon as I start assembling multi-person scenes in 2.5d.

Keep going, this is getting somewhere! :+1:

#23

i would like to see her, young sexi, angry and with snakes that will kill you, now thats what i will call a medusa :] something like this http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showpost.php?p=243396&postcount=2 or like this http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showpost.php?p=248886&postcount=1 but whit snakes in on her :]