ummm 3006?
Thanks very much JB, this is truly appreciated! 
-Will
Zbrush 2.5, any update?
news?
-J
Not that I am aware of, but thanks for posting in this thread. I almost forgot there was a new version supposed to be released. 
I believe it’s past due along with Zmapper for OS X which is playing second fiddle to the regular 2.5 release, but I can’t complain about that. I would rather have 2.5 up, and running sooner. 
It was due in December but was delayed. It is late January now so it should not be much longer since Pixologic said it would be in December. Plus they said it has some new features not announced previously.
Can not wait til it is released.
Trust me 2.5 is not playing second fiddle to Zmapper.
No user knows anything. Trust none that say otherwise.
We can deduce and project, but it’s all just guesswork.
(but, yeah. I’m sure cy’s right about that)
Really, when there’s something to announce, it’ll be really freakin’ obvious. You won’t have to ask if there’s news.
I wonder if they are working on a zbrush that will run on the new Intel Macs without needing this new Rossetta thing.
Rosetta only emulates G3 and G4 processors. If ZBrush uses any G5 optimization at all, it won’t run.
They’ll put out a spiffy new Universal Binary sooner or later – count on it.
(but as with all things ZBrush, “later” could be a while)
I run ZB on a G4 and it runs fine. If they are writing a Mac version (they probably are not yet) It would be foolish to use an old complier. The new ones not only take advantage of the universal binary feature, but they also have OpenGL improvements that would be essential. They should be using the latest version of Xcode when they do, but chances of them using a version that is 3 updates old seems pretty slim. They wouldn’t have any information on new G5 features like the Nvidia QuadroFX 4500 .
I do believe that Aurick has posted a couple times that Zmapper for Mac is going to come first, Ctrl-Z, and hopefully he knows.
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Anyone that closely affiliated with Pixologic is exempt from the “user” category as far as my statement’s concerned.
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I’m not convinced he’s posted anything close to that. My memory is of him saying it’s still coming, perhaps sooner than we think, and that anyone telling you it’s going to be one order or the other… is only speculating.
Neither of us know anything, and it seems we’re too lazy to dig up Aurick’s posts and confirm what was actually said.
…which is another reason why people shouldn’t believe us.
My personal theory is that ZMapper and 2.5 will come out on the same day. I have no evidence to support this theory, but you have no evidence to refute it either.
Here is the quote from the talked about thread from Aurick
aurick
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I think the Intel-Mac issue might not have made life easier. So… let’s lean back, think about the poor guy’s sweating on the Keyboards and wait relaxed and in anticipation! I think I won’t sleep till I crash on the Keyboard once it’s out hahaha. Maybe some new stuff will be shown on the User Meeting…
Lemo
Well, I believe that the complete lack of communication does not engender good will from customers who have made an economic decision based on information that they released more than a year ago.
What lack of communication they said it would be delayed. What economic decision ? It is a free upgrade for all previous owners of Zbrush.
I second that sentiment cy!! I for one can wait. If you have mastered everything there is to be learned from the current version, good on ya!! I have a lot more to learn with the current version!!:o
There is no information about a release date or even a hint of when they plan to release it. There is no information about the new features that are supposed to be one of the reasons that they have delayed it. (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=248014&highlight=release#post248014). I bought zbrush because of the features they announced more than a year ago for my business and that was an economic decision. Notice that I didn’t say that I felt it was bad to delay the release, but I think that the communication around it is poor.
I guess you’re satisified with the level of communication aound the release and that’s your opinion and I respect it. However, I am not satisfied with the level of communication around the release and that’s my opinion and I hope that you can respect it.
billrobertson42:
I sympathize, but have long since come to terms with those emotions. If someone had posted half of what I’m about to say before that, I would have snapped. Apologies in advance?
bill and cy:
I held off on buying Silo for about six months because I was sure ZBrush 2.5 would be out any day now (then), and wanted to see how it handles re-topologizing a mesh before I invest $109 in another product.
Six months, to maybe save $109? In 3D terms, that’s forever, for pocket change. I was an idiot, and I missed out on some amazing tools that were well within budget the whole time.
My fault. Not Pixologic’s. Let’s be clear about that.
If the economic decision you made was to hold off on buying something you desperately need, you’re just stupid. I feel I can say that, because I did the same thing and it applies just as strongly.
If the economic decision you made was whether or not to buy ZBrush, that was a good move. You have ZBrush now. And where ZBrush is strong, it kicks ass over any program you might have already owned. If you’ve taken the time to learn it, your pipeline has improved, as have the results you’ve been able to achieve in your outside software. When 2.5 is ready, you’ll be first to receive the benefits of that as well, but let’s not pretend those new features are the only reason to own ZBrush, or expect anyone to side with you if you take that stand.
If the economic decision you made was WHEN to buy ZBrush, you probably should have waited until you could better afford to part with the money. I suspect this one’s your complaint, as it seems obvious you were going to buy 2.5 upon it’s release anyway. Here, everyone else is giving good advice – get familiar with the toolset, and build some valuable skills which you’ll still need when 2.5 is released. This software has a learning curve, and the head start will serve you well. But more to the point, and what everyone’s saying… There’s no point in being bitter over an impulse buy if it turns out to be the greatest investment you’ve ever made. Play around, and keep an open mind. You might yet find contentment as we all await release.
–E--:
You rock.
aminuts:
–E-- rocks.
Put another way: I was wrong and you were right.
I still predict they’ll come out on the same day, though. If ZMapper’s taking this long to port without any attention drawn away from it to work on 2.5, we ain’t never gonna see either of 'em.
That’s me projecting, in a big way. Believe none of it – I don’t know nothin’.
…but what I’ve been saying for a while now still holds: Whatever issues they’re fighting as they port ZMapper to the Mac might not be a problem if ZMapper were a 2.5 plugin instead of a 2.0 one. They’d have more leeway to change the existing codebase, if such a thing were needed.
I have no basis to support that theory, but it makes more sense to me than anything else we’ve come up with.
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Good points Aaron. I have gotten benefits from buying zbrush when I did. No question. And I’m pretty darn happy that the upgrade will be free. That’s just fantastic.
What gets me about the communication though, is that if I had some more information about this future event that I’m depending on I could make better decisions on how to get by until then. Is it going to be a month? I can probably hang on and get other things done. Is it going to be two or three months? I might want to look at a “free” alternative - free is never free, because you have to spend your time to learn something new. Is it going to be longer? Then I definitely need to start looking at other alternatives.