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Pixologic and ILM - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

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#41

I can appreciate the quality artwork and the efforts that went into making the models, but at the same time, I cannot see the value of wasting such creativity on a movie that is among the worst I have seen in years. It didn’t take more than 15 minutes for a group of four people watching to say, “turn that junk off!” But then again, this doesn’t surprise me: Hollywood is notorious for putting out rubbish and expecting everyone to judge a lousy story with bad acting and a plot that might excite an eight year old to swoon over something simply because it has so-called good special effects.

Sorry, where I come from, a wart is still a wart regardless of how “realistic” you make it look; and as movies go, that one is a real embarrassment. All those who were involved in editing that and allowing that out into the public limelight ought to be fired. It’s wonderful that Zbrush could be used to achieve such impressive results, but those results have little to no value in the real world when they have been coupled to a LOSER.

In short: that flick didn’t do Zbrush any justice. To the contrary, I consider it an insult and I wouldn’t get caught dead having my worst artistic efforts be associated with that dog. Putting good art on a wart of a film will only impress those who can’t distinguish the difference between quality and pure crap. :-1:

#42

Harsh!.. I’ve not watched the film myself (yet) due to the vast quantity of derision cast upon it but I think you are being just a tad critical on people who have created excellent (based upon trailers etc) effects,creatures, animations etc

They are working for the company, doing what they do best. Do they walk out because they personally think the film sucks. I doubt it, and would you?

No , i didn’t think so.

And calling it an insult to Z. not really. it shows that it can work in the big blockbuster. You can’t blame the artist or the tool for hollywood churned out rubbish. The people at te top commision the work and sadly the commom denominator of public perception decides what they want at the end. …the artists in the middle make it palatable…actually maybe I should blame them. if the effects were back to B movie classics, japanese godzilla etc then the story would have to be good…wait a minute… I watched them and loved them.argghh

but seriously, you can’t blame the artist. Blame the paying public, the movie producers… but the artist and the tool are just pawns in the grand scheme of movies and they wan’t to do things tothe best of their ability.

El-d

#43

I’d put it this way,
Thanks to the artists for making this movie worth to watch.

As for the story… well… (cough)

#44

I never actually got around to seeing it myself but I sympathize with you speaking your mind. I think a lot of people in Hollywood just don’t pay much attention to plot anymore.

As for the artists, are you being too harsh? Certainly. You can’t just give a blanket criticism like that of a whole special effects crew. The nature of the business is that you do work when its available. If you are lucky enough to get on permanently with a good effects company you create art for the dogs so that you’re still on the job when you have a chance to work on a great movie later. And you don’t always know which is which in advance. Similar things can be said about actors.

On the other hand I’ve seen a huge tendency for artists to come up with characters of their own with completely ridiculous back-stories or an interpretation of a monster from literature that bears no faithfulness to the original concept, they just want to play around with whatever looks cool and don’t really care if it makes sense. I guess writers and directors are a lot like that too.

#45

Shining Warts Are Still Warts
I can appreciate the quality artwork and the efforts that went into making the models, but at the same time, I cannot see the value of wasting such creativity on a movie that is among the worst I have seen in years. It didn’t take more than 15 minutes for a group of four people watching to say, “turn that junk off!” But then again, this doesn’t surprise me: Hollywood is notorious for putting out rubbish and expecting everyone to judge a lousy story with bad acting and a plot that might excite an eight year old to swoon over something simply because it has so-called good special effects.

Sorry, where I come from, a wart is still a wart regardless of how “realistic” you make it look; and as movies go, that one is a real embarrassment. All those who were involved in editing that and allowing that out into the public limelight ought to be fired. It’s wonderful that Zbrush could be used to achieve such impressive results, but those results have little to no value in the real world when they have been coupled to a LOSER.

In short: that flick didn’t do Zbrush any justice. To the contrary, I consider it an insult and I wouldn’t get caught dead having my worst artistic efforts be associated with that dog. Putting good art on a wart of a film will only impress those who can’t distinguish the difference between quality and pure crap.
I think Davey Jones is the best digital character ever and ILM deserves all the credit for an outstanding job of animating him.

I personally enjoyed both Pirates. Too bad you didn’t. Obviously you are in the minority. Check the box office; it’s in the all-time top ten. That’s not the kind of track record attributed to a LOSER.

Venting is fine, but why spill your guts in a thread celebrating ILM and ZBrush.

If you think you can do better, LET’S SEE IT.

Popularity certainly doesn't equate to quality. I think your right. Most Holywood output is lousy, but not in this case.
#46

To each his own… But regardless whether or not someone liked the movie, ZBrush was substantially used by the artists and created some great CG.

As for the movie itself, take it for what it is. Just a fun movie to watch. Take the campy moments as silly humor rather than an insult to your intelligence and you’ll have more fun. It’s easy to be entertained if you let yourself enjoy it.

Now granted it is hard to do that with some movies… I recall Batman and Robin… That went beyond campy…

#47

although this works was very nausea,but it’s good works:+1:

#48

Hey that´s great! 77model thanks for finding this old thread.:slight_smile:
I didn´t know they used Zbrush!
It would be interesting to know more Zmovies. :slight_smile:

#49

i,m too late to reply congrats to all artists wish best of luck!!!

#50

i am 100% agree with you :slightly_smiling_face: