if u get 2 stars when 144 ppl voted than u can expect that every second guy gave u either 1 or 2.
when artists start building a wall arround them, they ain’t artist anymore.
keep that in mind, but in one thing i aggree with you, zbrush is rlly a great program.
Max Peterson…http://www.google.com/search?q=starry+starry+night+song&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADFA_en
I don’t want to argue with you about the star system, I just disagree with your math,…it doesn’t apply in a rigged game…Give someone 1 star, and have all of your friends do the same to that person…and then watch and see if that person ever gets more than a two star rating…Guarantee you, that he, or she never will…I’ve seen it happen in other forums, to alot of people, not just to myself.
That’s why the star system was abandoned in the Artisic Anatomy Forum over in CG Talk…A rigged system that can be ruined by just a few, is a bad system, and idea…in my book anyway., and besides, stars are just opinions, and everyone has their own…There would be no Van Gogh, or Rembrandt for that matter, if you, or they were to go by the star system of their time…
But at least we can agree that ZBRUSH is a great program…Time will tell the story on the rest…
The star system isn’t the reason why you just have no success with those collages.
they are just all the same and don’t express anything.
Just look at those guys who get 5 stars, they have some thing u don’t have:
zbrush is a tool and not real life clay. that means u need technical skills to have success in zbrush. U need to know things about computers, other programs, hardware and so on. And u need to know at least the nearly thousand buttons in your zbrush very well.
when im watching your pictures i just see, thats u seem to use maybe 1% of what zbrush is capable of.
With that in my mind, u have produced more pictures than most of all professional artists.
what im saying is, that u should spend more time on gathering some basic skills and then some advanced skills instead of doing the same again and again. your thread seems to be the worm in the apple to me. spamming the same and the same again, ignoring the comments and the ratings. this looks pretty ignorant and stupid to me.
im not trieng to offend u, but sometimes someone has to say what someone has to say. Best thing u could do is getting a break from this forum, getting some basic skills, and then coming back with new account. the stuff u do has actually nothing to with digital sculpting.
sorry if that sounds mean, but i think this had to be said before u used all of zbrush centrals webspace 
Max Paterson…I guess you think you are speaking for everyone in this forum, when you rattle off at the mouth the way you do…I disagree with everything you have said so far.
I know of at least one forum member who would also disagree with you, besides myself that is…Below is one of his post in my sketchbook… and there are lots more where he came from, who feel the same way about my works…Maybe you should spend more time showing some of your own works in this forum…I only see one image in your skechbook, but then again, oh I forgot LOL…you are after what you think is perfection…
Do me a favor, and don’t come back in my thread to bore me with more of your insults…It doesn’t take the knowlage of every tool and technique in ZBRUSH to create art,…it only takes a good imagination, and the will to do it, which is something that I have both of, or at least I’ve been told that by people like the one who posted that post that i’m posting now…
If you feel the need to respond to this post and myself, then please send your response in a private email, unless you can’t help yourself that is…
This post below is by Etcher, a well respected member and one of the great artist that this forum represents, and is posted to me in my sketchbook…Sorry to drag you into this Etcher,…but I value your opinion and thoughts about art, and I think that they are warrented in this situation that I am presented with at present…hope you will understand.
Etcher post to Spirit Dreamer/Me
These wonderful mysterious worlds-places-people and animals …
“Playing like a child with toys is something that I value, and is a most valuble asset, in my way of thinking anyway” -> 
Again, thanks for sharing with us.
Spirit Dreamer
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My sketchbook: Etcher_Sketcher (thread overview on last page)
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For the most part I agree with Max…it’s cool to experiment and I do like a few of your images. But by and large it just looks to me like you’re slapping 1/2 done models together and it doesnt look very pleasing or interesting. Again Im not trying to put you down really and again some of those you posted at the bottom on your last post I really enjoy but I just have to agree with Max from an artists point of view. Im seeing more technology then art in most of these. IMO
Also…max didnt “Rattle off at the mouth” he gave you very clear and constructive criticism. You dont seem to be able to take it because you come across defensive. But he IS right I am sorry and he is not rude to you. You are getting low stars because the majority of artists voting dislike the work. Again some of its great. But if you dont listen to criticism I dont think you will ever be successful at this. Telling the guy to leave your thread and then trying to give yourself credit by posting another artists comments is weak.
ignore em spirit 
keep experimenting how you see fit… the beauty of zbrush is there is no one right way and people who are new to the game would be wise to learn that before they paint themselves into a corner of being stuck with only one way to do something 
G-D…Thanks:) …Like I said …everyone has an opinion about art, and that’s ok with me…I’m not trying to hit a home run with every image that I post,…that’s not my game, or is it what i’m about as a person, or as an artist.
Thank You…Dapharmer…Well put statement,…and oh so true…
Actually its not a true statement. What is the point of asking for crits and comments in you are going to ignore it all like dapharmer suggests? Im curious as to what you are about as an artist? On page 6 you state you are doing compositions in the vein of Dali…Everyone has an opinion of Art and thats “ok” with you…yet you tell that guy to leave because of his. So which is it?
G-Dub…I didn’t ask for crits,or specific help in any area…I haven’t done that in a long time…When I want some, I will ask for them… As far as which one is it that you asked…you seem to have all the answers, so you go figure it out,…I have more important things to think about…
Maybe its your way of getting famous, spamming 3rd class pictures as long as ppl recognize you,
beeing known for bad quality will never end up well.
i would be ashamed by acting like you. I see only a whiny wannabe behind the screen. With your post against me, u gave me right with all i was saying. I mean you can lie to us others, but u can’t lie to yourself. if u are seriously convinced about yourself, u should maybe search a psychatrist and/or eyedoctor.
Maybe you lose your face when u give me right. But you lose your face and more when u continue like this. in my opinion u lsot your face many many pages ago. But running rampage with bad pictures now isn’t rlly an option.
You look to me like " what can i lose?"
and this is highly disrespecting all other community members.
Max Paterson…Again with the opinions :lol: …Like I said,…everyone has one. Hey, no one is twisting your arm to view my thread, or my works…why bother looking and shooting your mouth off…Why not go create something and post it instead…Would be time better spent I think…
Why so rude?
In the first post in this thread you wrote “Any contructice suggestions and crits will always be much appreceated and welcomed…I’m here to learn.”
Spirit dreamer… Now i do pity you.
I do critizise you, so u maybe would stop spamming your collages in this forum. because every second thumb in the gallery section is one of yours. (i exaggerated a bit, but its rlly annoying).
I never saw someone ****y like you before. now i do even think u are trolling zbrush central. no normal human would be that shameless as you…
be glad that the most ppl do as you say and just look away.
but when everyone would be honest on this planet, they all would keep you on ground.
the problem aint your works its more your attitude, which is hard to take.
but i see your attitude in your works. this is what makes your works bad.
no love to detail, no love to improvement = no love to art.
Im very curious about how you sculpt with Zbrush…in particular the lions which appear in your work frequently
This was odd…Im going through your thread to see your other works and found this
“Piggy…PUT UP OR SHUT UP…I can’t judge your critique until I judge your work,…But what does appear to me by what you have stated in your critique of my work is that… You don’t have a clue as to what art is, and is all about…I would suggest that maybe you ought to study some of the OLD MASTERS works…such as Rembramdt, Caravaggio ect. before you form your opinions about other peoples works.”
This is odd because a few days before you had been asking for criticism and comments. If this is how you handle your critics I feel badly for you because you won’t be able to learn. Something to think about…also you mention leaving models “unfinished” and compare this to Frazetta I know what you are speaking of very well here but this is not what YOU are doing. I think in order to use the line of “Im pushing the envelope” and such one needs to be able to master the basics first. there is not one true fine arts master out there who hasn’t done this.
when I look at your character sculpting from last year it’s very clear you skipped this completely. When you leave behind huge indicators and clues on exactly how you used the digital medium in your work you kill the “magic” of the art. Some of your pieces manage to escape this and those are the ones I like but the others which have major technical issues I do think you should work on that as an artist and take the advice from others to heart.
Thank You for your opinions, crits of me, and my works people…I would respond in kind, but it’s not what I feel like doing at the moment…I have more important things to do,than respond to the likes of you and your kind…like taking my dog for a walk. …About the lions,…the wips are in my sketchbook , ether in here, in the Sculptris forum, or my CG TALK sketchbook…If you are really interested in seeing how I sculpted them, you will have to search …Like I said…I have better things to do at the moment…
in the time it took to tell me the better things you had to do you could have posted a link to your WIP. Do you use your own models or do you download ones and use them in Zbrush?
Ok I found your sketchbook thanks!
C-Dub…You insult me and then expect me to help you…Get real…About reference…and using my own models…It depends on what my needes are…