Some amazing work in their gallery. Once Z 2.5 is out MudBox will have some major competition.Link
Some nice work, some not so nice…
MB is a good app & does a great job, I’ll probably still purchase it even with ZB already in my toolset…
Thanks for the link JB
I look at that sort of thing and I think, yes, OK, there are some talented artists using it. That’s pretty much all you can tell from looking at something like that. The ZBrush gallery is the same of course, except there’s much greater variety because the program allows you to do far more than just model a lot of detail. I’m sure there’s a place for Mudbox for those who can’t handle so much potential.
With the new features Zb has in store, I don’t think Pixologic has any real need to worry about MB…other than beating them to market place…
I’m sure there’s a place for Mudbox for those who can’t handle so much potential.
Diplomacy; thy name is Marcus
Nicely put…
MB is good at what it does though & for many, what MB does is all they use ZB for anyway so if you’re a newb & can’t handle the heat of the ZB UI then MB is a Godsend…
There’s room for both but ZB will remain top dog as it offers sooooo much more to its users…
For me personally I would like a more standard interface in Zbrush. Saying that I will be sticking with Zbrush. So far I have seen no need to replace Zbrush. It MAY be ok as a compliment to Zbrush. Will have to try it and see.
Cheers
Mike R
Made sure Zbrush is named as many times as possible. lol. (Unintentional.)
Both companies have announce all theses great new features but no one has release anything. The X vs Y debate is moot until a product is delivered to the consumers.
The real question is who will release first. The company that releases first will be King for Digital Sculpting.
Oh, Hexagon 2 then.
Just when I thought this whole thing couldnt get any sillier. Congratualtions sir, a new high watermark.
Did we really need a new thread for this? Couldnt you have done your shilling this in one of the existing MB threads? We all got our emails from MB about the vids.
The company that releases first will be King for Digital Sculpting.
doooonnn’t think so!!!
I am sure some of them wished it was
Seems someone was happy I post this so I guess it was worth it.
pretty much doubt that aswell, I think most potential buyers look at what features are offered, and what they need from those features. Featurewise, ZBrush 2.5 can’t be touched by the other applications. however, depending on what features are most important to you, it may not be the ideal choice.
Mudbox seems to be focusing totally on the digital sculpturing part, with enhancements to that area, such as layers (also on 2.5), local subdivision, and alot of attention paid to brushes and falloffs as far as I can tell. then we have Silo, which lacks layers (right?) but on the other hand has all the standard polytools together with displacement modeling. to me, ZBrush 2.5 looks like the do-it-all package, with Mudbox and Silo primarily going head to head for the people who are only interested in the modeling.
Scenario # 1
If Mudbox 1.0 and Silo2.0 is released soon and before Zbrush 2.5 would you bail out on Zbrush?
Not to interrupt (much).
Regarding scenario.
My perspective is hobbyist.
Your scenario hopefully is from the point that you have nothing.
Otherwise, why “bail” on a program that cost you about 500.00?
In reading some of your previous posts I have gotten the impression that
you are not happy with the way Zbrush has handled it’s 2.5 upgrade.
From what I have read in a lot of posts, you are not alone.
For a hobbyist, the choice is easy, wait. It’s free. No sweat. No decision
required.
For someone who does it for a living, it is a little different.
At Siggraph, and from what I understand,before it, 2.5 was demonstrated.
2.0 was sold with the understanding of an upgrade.
2.5 features were heavily stressed.
Zbrush, Silo, Mudbox, etc are for a lot of people tools, like a hammer and saw
are to a carpenter. If a tool breaks or malfunctions, or God forbid, they come out with something that works better, the choice is easy.
The 2.5 demonstration, would convince about anyone to buy
Zbrush.
But if you bought it to work with, what happens in the meantime,while you
are waiting for the features demonstrated in the upgrade?
Suppose you convinced your employer to buy based on 2.5 features?
So.
I have a question that applies to your scenarios.
Do they apply to hobbyist ( amateur) or impatient industry professional.
Curious.
My perspective is from a professional point of view. However I also understand the hobbyist perspective as well. Yes I think some people are becoming impatient but I am not one of them. If you read my previous post you notice I felt that Zbrush 2.5 would not be release at Siggraph and even for a couple more months after that. I feel MudBox will not be release any time soon either. Silo 2 will be out first that seems to be a given.
So the question remains would you bail. When the Mudbox forum starts
I will ask the question in reverse.
You’re professional what? Freelancer? Artist at a small studio? Manager of 3d artists at a large studio? Hot Dog Vendor?
Professional Illustrator and 3d Artist. Do you need my client list as well?
hard to say, I haven’t tried Mudbox, and although I’ve tried Silo, the new 2.0 seems to be a whole new experience. what interests me with Mudbox are mostly possible enhancements to the ways brushes operate (‘feel’) and of course layers. ZBrush will have layers, likely enhanced brushes and the retopology tool that looks amazing. Silo has alot of good stuff, but lacks layers (iirc), which is one of the things I’m eager about concerning new features. it will open up so much when it comes to experimentation. either way, despite all new features none of these programs will offer any magic, the best stuff I’ve seen done on Mudbox are by guys who created equally good stuff on ZBrush 2.0, though perhaps at greater pains. and practically every day here I see new killer artwork being shown. so for me personally, it’s plainly evident that it’s not the tool that hinders me from creating stunning artwork, it’s my skill. that’s not to say that there’s anything wrong in wanting a program that makes it faster for you to go from ‘A’ to ‘B’, but it won’t make you a better artist, only less frustrated perhaps.
Well said… I Agree 100%