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Mac & Zbrush 3 Thread

Actually all I care about at this point is … will we get it someday?
I’ll soon be finished with studying and plan on switching from Windows to Mac then. I can live with booting it up in Win for some time. But at some point I’d like to have it available under Mac natively. :confused:

Does someone here have any experience with running the Win verison under parallels? Is it stable? does it perform well enough?

I run win xp with vmware fusion, on my macbook pro dual core intel with 4gigs of ram, i’ve set the windows to use 2gigs and dual core processor, and it works great so far…

As i mentioned i and earlier post, i’ve only installed the trial of zbrush yesterday so i have yet to know just how well it will perform…
I know from a couple of freinds who also use vmware that opengl and 3d support is at an early stage and we’ll properbly see a better integration of it i version 2. which is not so far away…

I have no experience with parralles but if your using intel mac i suggest go with vmware fusion

Plus i believe that you need to do some tweaking to get a wacom tablet to function- i’ll pm you on that if you want to more about it. plus i think theres a thread about it in here somewhere

Well, this is interesting. Take a look:

http://www.pixologic.com/events/siggraph08

Yesterday it said, “Pixologic’s™ flagship product: ZBrush® 3.5”

Now it says, “Pixologic’s™ flagship product: ZBrush®”

The 3.5 is gone. Already, they’re backing off.

Profoundly weird is Pixologic! Remind me to never seek employment there. :rolleyes:

Yeah, like they could really make that mistake. Seriously, they have no clue what they are doing. Someone actually put up 3.5 and thought well, we better not mention it … let’s take it down. No one will notice. This is just more proof to all the chaos that is pixologic’s management team.

I sure hope the reason they decided to remove the 3.5 isn’t because they didn’t want us mac users to know how much further behind we are getting from windows users.

Or because they think that not revealing their 3.5 version yet, will make a much bigger impression surprising all when they’ll make the big announcement with fireworks and champagne. What a childish behavior…

Or, more likely, because the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. Seriously, I imagine the whole gang at Pixoland is all excited about the Siggraph bash. Could be in a happy way, or in a fearsome way. We’ll soon know.

I didn’t seriously expect them to go to Siggraph empty-handed. That would just be dumb. If they weren’t going to steal some thunder, then they’d just have to sit there by themselves, and throw pencils at the teeming masses surrounding the Autodesk booth.

So obviously they have something, but do they have something for us? Aurick, you’re killing me man. This wasn’t funny the first 12 months, so it’s not going to get any funnier. You don’t have anything to say? FIND SOMETHING TO SAY. Tell us a joke! Some apt story from your youth. A humorous anecdote. Spin us a yarn, sing us a song! The very least you can do is be mildly entertaining. So when you go to Siggraph, bring your guitar, or yo-yo’s, or whatever you’ve got. I paid my money, now I want to see some dancing monkeys.

Or ZBrush 3 on Mac. Either one.

Whenever I look at a software program I not only look at the program I look at it’s future. If it’s going to take me months to learn the program it’s going to have to be able to pay off in the future. The issue i see here is although ZBrush is a innovative program there are other competitors that are emerging on the market backed by strong companies with the resources and experience to make them come to fruit. Zbrushes whole idea isnt patented. There isnt anything that cant be copied to some degree from it. So for them to outrage their customer base and considering the difficulty of learning the interface. They are setting themselves up for failure in the future. Sure this may be years off but I have seen a plethora of software companies make this exact same mistake.

They have dominance in the arena of their program so they take several liberties and when some other viable alternative comes to the fore front they loose massive amounts of their customer base.

I simply dont see them supporting mac after this next release. They cant string it’s users along like this and expect them to remain loyal. But in the end speculation is just that, speculation we will know in a week or two.

I agree. Another thing to look at is what the user base is doing with it, as this tends to identify the nature and direction of the app’s future. Over the long run I believe the user base leads the development team, not vise versa. For this and other reasons a study of the gallery and WIPs will give you a feel for the app itself.

In the case of Zbrush, as we have discussed before, there is a preponderence of rather grotesque fantasy and monster stuff being produced, presumably by Windows folks for the most part. That’s all very well and good for those who like that genre, but it has been suggested that if Mac people ever get hold of the latest and best from Pixo we may begin to see more traditional and mainstream art being produced. The technical brilliance of the monster stuff is undeniable, and I don’t fault it, but I think Zbrush needs more balance artistically.

In short, from my perspective Zbrush needs a more diverse user base. Mac parity would provide it, and Pixo needs it. Just one more reason for them to get with it on Mac 3.x.

Anyone else feel that way, or am I all wet? :slight_smile:

Not sure how you would really know what the ratio of monsters per mac people as opposed to pc people would be at this point. Do you have any data to back that theory up? Just a hunch? Hard to say whether or not we’ll see less monsters or more monsters if mac users ever get their hands on ZBrush3… I just want to get my hands on it!

No, just what several members of this forum have said the last time the subject came up. Actually, I’m blown away by what people like Meats Meier are doing with ZB. I’d just like to see others doing more of the kind of subject matter that I like to do. Hoping that if Mac ZB ever gets parity we’ll start to see that. If I’m still in the mix at that time I’ll be sure to contribute.

Yeah I 'd like to contribute too, if I’m not dead by then…

Pretty hard to contribute if you’re dead. Keep taking your vitamins!

Nah, they ought to be able to further support mac after this with simultaneous releases that are stable. That’s the whole cause of the delay, to set themselves up for the future of Mac support. So, in your theory of looking to the future of software companies, that’s a plus. The minus of waiting is in the present. According to Pix, it’ll be worth it in the long run.

According to Pix, I received my copy of Zbrush Mac 3.1 in February.:lol:

I for one would like to see something more than monsters. It’s getting a little bit tiring to see all these monster all over the place. I think is because it’s so much easier to come up with a monster than lets say a human figure that is proportionately well sculpted.
I’d love to contibute something different, but my arthritist is getting worse, and i’m afraid that by the time we get zb, my right hand would have hard time using a tablet.

Sorry to hear about the arthritis. I think we’re all developing arthritis waiting for Z3. :cry:

I am a mac user and I have 0 Plans on making any kind of monsters or creatures of a ‘fantasy’ nature whatsoever. I think you have a point here. I know many mac users and they have a style of their own. It’s that refined minimalistic attitude that goes along with all of apples products. Kind of a sleek simple but well made view.

To say mac users wont be making monsters is not 100% accurate but it’s more than 50%. I think the personality of a standard mac user does lean to a certain style as opposed to PC users. Keep in mind for Mac there isnt that many games, there isnt allot of entertainment in a mac users computer compared to that of a PC. As for a PC user it’s more ‘teenager’ friendly. This caters to a certain ‘type’ of people and in and of itself would cause a generalization in style.

I’d say we can sum it up by saying we’ll be getting 3.5 for sure, which is exciting for new features, but we still don’t know when. I’m just hoping that it’s not in October or even later. Which is possible…

Even still, I’m pumped that it will be a step up from 3.1. If it looked and felt the same as what I’ve already been using for months, it’s only an improvement of convenience. An entire new version, now that gets my attention! Even if it’s just a few goodies…(not to mention I’ll be upgrading to 8 gigs next week!)