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Mac News (Unofficial) (update on page 15)

At least no we know it won’t be coming this next few months.
But it is coming! A MacZbrush! W00T! Awesome!

Possibly a version upgrade too? Perhaps Z-3.5 at the same time? Ryan Kingslien demoed that awesome tiling brush in his Zblog.

An a side note, how 'bout a Linux ZB?? :smiley:

A little bit off topic, but I’m thining of buying a mac in the new year.
I have Zbrush 3.1 for windows and know that I can run it on the mac but I’d rather use the native Mac version (when it’s released). So my question is, is there a way to swap licenses or do I have to buy a whole new Zbrush 3, which is really not something I can afford.

Pete B

Cross-platform migration costs 50% of the current commercial price. Since the Mac version is currently priced at $489, it would come to $244.50 to do a migration between now and when the Mac version of 3.1 is released. (At which time the price will increase.)

If this is something you’d like to do, email [email protected]

It’s to hear some news. I was getting worried since I pre-ordered Zbrush 3 for the Mac back in September.

bB

Are you saying that those of us who took advantage of transferring to a PC version will have to pay $244.50 if the Mac version comes available to change back?

John

Wait a second. Those who bought a Mac license of v. 2 were promised a FREE upgrade to 3 for Mac, and in the meantime, were given acess to a PC license until the Mac one was released, at which time they would be given the option to go back to their original platform, or keep the pc license.

That was the original agreement.

No. For technical reasons, your original license was not able to be disabled/cancelled. This is why there is a fee for the migration; you’re essentially purchasing a second license. We simply provide that second license at a 50% discount because in most migration cases the original platform never gets used again.

This is correct, and began in May of 2008. However jthair is a different situation, having originally purchased a Mac license some time before that, and then transferred to the PC platform.

May 2007? :slight_smile:

Ah, I see the difference. Thanks. But I think you meant May of 2006 or 2007, right?

Oops. You’re right. I meant 2007. See? We at Pixologic are from the future. :wink:

No official news :cry: .
Its been months and still NOTHING. :( Its very clear pixologic does not need Mac users AT ALL. :confused:

While it’s hard not having anything tangible, at least something is happening. Can’t be too hard on them for doing their job as best they can. And they do have a life outside of Pixologic; Christmas is around the corner. Patience.

It’s all good, but lately (like months now) i find myself checking back on this thread everyday just to see if theres anything new. I just can’t wait to get rid of windows in my workflow.

Yeah, I’ve got it setup to email me if/when anyone writes in this thread, and I get pretty excited when I see them.

Well I just bought zbrush 2. And now I’m refreshing this page as if they will make the update available right now just because I bought the program…

Yet my email said:
“*Macintosh users who have purchased their version online and would like a free of charge license transfer to the Windows version (This license can be exchanged for a Macintosh version once ZBrush 3 is released for that platform.)”

It is a pity I didn’t know about the 50% fee before I took advantage of the PC during the time there was no Mac version as I have given up on the PC version on the Mac.

John

Thanks, Aurick, for the update. It is good to hear something, even if unofficial. As a customer of several years, I am always happier hearing something than I am being left in the dark… even if that something is subject to change. :smiley:

I am rather confused here Aurick.

A second license…? What are my options with that second license I have to buy? Am I allowed to sell my old Windows license and continue to use my 50% discount OSX license?
If not, what am I going to do with two licenses? It would be an awfull waste of my hard earned cash. As you say, in most migration cases the original platform never gets used again by the user. And as ZB3 is the one and only piece of software that ties me to Windows, I have absolutely 0.000 intentions of ever using my Windows license again (seeing as the Windows partition would be wiped and the MS install CD torn to pieces :slight_smile: ).

The 50% policy is a bit hard to swallow on top of the additional one year wait. If a license cannot be disabled/cancelled for “technical reasons” (?) then surely this is Pixologic’s problem (operating an inadequate licensing system) and they should not hold their customers financially accountable.

What confuses me even further is that Pixologic allows us to sell our licenses (at no extra charge!) on to somebody else. This must indicate a license modification or transfer of some kind. Necessitating at least some sort of change in the licensing records at Pixologic (whom the seller has to contact before the transaction takes place). If that’s possible for free, then I find it very difficult to believe there cannot be found a cheaper method (read: free) for a mere platform license transfer.

One could be forgiven for thinking this is more like a convenient bit of extra income rather than a true technical limitation.

I might as well buy a full Mac license now, wait for the price hike and then sell my original PC license for $489 (or slightly lower than the newer higher price and make a nice little profit on top of it). Though this begs the question of why Pixologic would put me through that hassle just to get ZB3 running on OSX. :frowning:

I have to agree. After having originally purchased a Mac License in 2006 for ZBrush 2, I upgraded to 3.1 in the spring, then was able to freely transfer to a new computer in late summer and was given a transfer license to run on the windows side of my boot-camp enabled Mac. Now, when it comes out for Mac for real, does this mean I’m going to owe $250 to upgrade on the same machine for a Mac license that can recognize all of my RAM?

Unless I really missed the fine print, not notifying us that we would owe a fee to switch our license back again seems a little backhanded when done after the fact. I’ll pay it if I have to pay it, but it seemed clear at the time that I could easily switch back when I made my transfer.

Now, my questions posted below don’t specifically come out and ask, “what will this cost me?”, but as I was never notified of costs in the responses or in the legal documentation for the online CLEVERBRIDGE link, one would ASSUME that we could switch back (note: responses from PIXOLOGIC not posted due to legal disclaimer). I have always had a warm dialogue with pixologic support, and I REALLY appreciate all of their dedicated help. But I want my feelings to be known in the matter, if indeed my case is one of the few that will be hit with an extra charge in the transition back. All I really would have like would have been a statement at the time along the lines of, “You know, when you do this, you won’t be able to transfer back without a fee”, and that is what I feel was missing from this dialogue.

FIRST EMAIL TO PIXOLOGIC WHEN REQUESTING TRANSFER FROM PC TO MAC:
"Hello Pixologic,
I know you all must be hustling to get busy for
the release of ZB3 tommorow, but I was having some
registration issues on your pre-order site last week
that I still cannot clear up. I had sent an email back
on thursday or so looking for confirmation that I
will be able to Download the new software tommorow (or
at least this week) but haven’t heard back. If you get
a chance, I would appreciate a brief email response.

Thank you for your help, and for this awesome program!
-Andrew"

MY SECOND EMAIL TO PIXOLOGIC WHEN SWITCHING MACHINES AGAIN:
"Hi Pixologic,
I originally purchased zbrush 2.0 on 8/23/2006
thru journeyed.com as a license for a g4 macintosh I
used to own. I was a part of the zbrush 2.5/3.0 beta
team and have upgraded to 3.1 on my Hewlitt-Packard
xw4000 PC. I have recently purchased a new Mac pro
which I will be dual booting with windows. I have
already transferred my license once from my old mac to
the PC when 3.1 was released, and now I would like to
be able to transfer my license off the old PC which I
am giving away, to my new Mac Pro running windows. The
Ethernet ID of this machine while booted in the Mac OS
is: ********** (i don’t know if you need that
info or not, and I don’t know if ethernet ID will be
different once I install windows as well). Can you
help me transfer my license? What else do I need to
do?

Respectfully,
-Andrew Klein"

So as you see, I have been able to switch twice now, and Pixologic has been extremely supportive in this, which is why a new fee is news to me (o crap, that rhymes).