Mac.
They could give windows machines away for free and I’d still choose a Mac.
Windows just destroys my motivation to be creative. 
ZB3.1onWinXP64 of course.
XP64 - I’m loving it!!! 
Cheers
kel
That’d be true… you’d have no right to complain.
But what if you bought a PC, bought an app that was available in both PC and Mac versions, and then when the new version came out it was updated for the Mac first… with the PC version to follow. And a year later you’re still waiting. Then you’d have the right to complain.
I think the basic problem here is if you’re a company that offers an application for multiple platforms, then you’d better be able to maintain those versions. Luxology is a great example of how to do it right. Deliver the app to both platforms at the same time, AND keep your users informed in a timely manner (through newsletters, podcasts and a presence in the forums). They have a great relationship with their users.
It’s not a pain to set up. It’s inconvenient to use. Kinda like having to get up to change the channel because you lost the remote. 
-Dave
The other part of the story is Apple announced the Intel Machines in 2005 to developers with delivery in 2006, we still don’t have a stable version of ZBRush that will run on the Intel Macs.
John
Replying to question on the thread…Why, Mac of course…
Saying to be able to maintain both versions is easier said than done. For some software, sure, it may be. But ZBrush isn’t an image editor or an everyday 3D program. If it was that easy don’t you think it would have been released ages ago? Like I said in my past post, it didn’t help that Apple said they were going to fully support Carbon in Leopard and then announcing otherwise without notifying developers in advance. That arrogance has caused Adobe not to offer the future CS4 in 64 bit for Mac. Mac and its users blame Adobe for spending their time and money on other projects. But how easy is it to learn a new language and re-rewrite 1,000,000 lines of code, bug free, in time, for the next release? So if ZBrush 3 was done and even working on Tiger, all the Leopard users would still be waiting for a stable version that would be up to par with the PC version. Pixologic might have started out in Cocoa to begin with, but they’d still have to learn it first, which still might be another reason for the delay. It also doesn’t help that they would have to make two different versions because of 2 different chipsets, and the possibility for PPC to be left in the dust. all just speculation of course
In the Mac users that I’ve met, they all seemed programmed to think that everything will just work if they release it, and it all seems to stem from the Mac commercials suggesting that ‘it just works’. And from the headaches we’ve had upgrading 2 Macs to Leopard, (in our experience here at least) it couldn’t be further from the truth. And whenever their is a problem with the Mac, they (the Mac users in our office) act like it never happens and they get all defensive and some how they always end up blaming M$, not sure how, but that’s where the conversation always seems to end up. Not that Vista was a breeze to upgrade to for all PC users, heck, I’m still waiting another 6 months at least before I dive into that realm.
But all in all, Pixologic STILL should have given a simple reason as to why the delay. Communication is a huge deal to all users. And unanswered questions just cause confusion, speculation, conspiracy theories and polls. Kanye West said ‘zBrUSH hates Mac people!’ Heheh. Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
Amen to that.
I don’t have any problems if Pixologic takes more than a year to port Zbrush 3.0 to the mac. I understand that this is a monumental task, and it would take a lot of time to do something like this. But my problem is that I feel I was tricked into buying something that was not yet ready for the mac. I’ve tried to used 2.0 on my Intel mac, but it just doesn’t work, and I don’t want to deal with Windows on my mac. So I feel that I could have used that money to buy Modo instead, but now I have neither.
Every system has problems, there is no such thing as a perfect
solution. Apple has control of both the hardware and the software
and therefor are able to control the stability and compatibility of
their solutions to a much higher degree. This will likely change
as their market share increases though, potentially they face
many of the challenges that plague Windows in scale.
This shouldn’t excuse people acting like idiots and being zealous
without experience (per vollers experience). People without knowledge
either make unfounded assertions or admit they don’t know (rarely) - this
happens in both mac and pc camps and in either case the failings
of individuals should not be attributed to their platform of choice.
Computers are tools, you use what works the best for you and
that’s all that matters.
I grew up in a family of software developers and learned Apple DOS,
DOS, UNIX etc. all very young (starting age 5) and know the caveats
well. Apple does have a good solution, but so do others - it all depends
on what you’re trying to do and what your comfortable with.
My motto: use what you like and don’t be an ass- playing well with
others make everyone stronger.
If you’re a jerk about your platform (I don’t care what it is) you’re
only creating barriers for other people to expose themselves to it
and find something they may potentially enjoy. We should all make
the best effort we can to become somewhat fluent in all environments.
Anyway, I like my Mac, and I’ll like it even more when zB gets released.
phew
I have used almost all types of computers and if I had a pefect machine I would choose a Linux based one but that is not practical.
So in the real world I use only high end PC’s - Intel based machines and I have a really healthy workflow and stability using Windows XP both 64 qnd 32 versions. I have found that Vista is a serious drawback in a number of situations and Microsoft will really have to address this in its Windows 7 release and the sooner the better. Vista is so full f stupid stuff that it makes me really wonder who the f**k designed it.
Anyway back to the subject at hand.
Although I was forced to use Macs on occasions when my client had a Mac studio or whatever I would personally never do that to myself in my studio.
I find the whole Mac culture rediculous and very sad indeed and I wish it would just dissapear and threads like this would vanish.
If this thread is to give some people help in making choices then from my stand point the choice is obvious.
A high end Intel or Amd CPU (depending on your budget) couple with as much Ram as possible and a fast hard disk and a reasonable video card.
The CPU and the RAM are the really important aspects.
You can build a machine that will make you very happy for around 400 Euros if you live in Europe and that is really a bargain.
PS To those people who maintain that the Windows based machines are somehow a stifling to their creativity I would suggest that you are a lame loser and need to get a life. If you are in the program of choice eg ZBrush or Maya or whatever you hardly see the operating system and lets face it windows is so easy to use its far more user friendly and adjustable than any Mac that I have ever seen over the last decade.
PPS As far as Pixologic and the ever coming Mac release - who cares? I suggest you get a new PC and get to work. End of story!
Who cares?? A very significant portion of the zBrush community cares. 
And yes, Windows’ incessant maintenance and security requirements does indeed stiffle my creativity. Every second I have to baby sit a computer is time lost. Time I could spend doing other things. I’ve spent 10 years on Windows PCs dealing with that and got tired of it. I enjoyed it when I was a kid with plenty of time on my hands. Now I just want to turn on a computer without having to be a sysadmin as well as an artist, so I switched to Macs. Why would you see that as lame and label me and people with similar motivations as being losers with no life? 
That doesn’t make any sense if you think about it.
It’s a choice I was glad I was able to make with Apple’s offerings being out there in the market. Choice is a good thing and I’m very glad Pixologic believes so too.
There’s no shame in respecting other people’s choice kasperle. If anything it shows maturity of mind. 
PS… and in the real world (as you put it) at my job at FrameStore-CFC, we use Macs and Linux machines (with hardly a Windows machine in sight) and it’s very practical indeed. 
What was the last major motion picture you work on? END OF STORY 
Thanks brother for putting that in perfect words.
I don’t know how many times we were working on something in windows and had it crash on us or have to run virus software. I’ve been to many studios in L.A and I see more MAC’s and Linux boxes doing the hard work.
What’s really shocking to see is how many studios are using MODO on a MAC. YOU GO MODO!
Times are changing. I remember when I hated Mac’s, Now I own 4 of them.
Windows is a really good for games. But when it’s time for work, it’s best done on a nice MAC.
kasperle,
Being a little more respectful & political
about the way you present your opinion
might actually allow a reader to consider
it. This type of approach only shames
the presenter and his/her cause.
The fact that Macintosh is an option for
artists in the ultra-competitive market
we live in only goes to validate it. If it
we’re as horrible as you suggest, no one
would be getting work done on it, and
therefor no one would buy it.
Last time I checked the OS X market
share was on fire, so either a lot of
people are making really bad choices
OR it’s actually got some value.
Either way you decide to look at it,
find a way to make peace.
We’re all on the same ship!
Happy zBrushing.
~sG~
Im non PC
actually im perfectly happy with only having Z2 at the moment , as its taking all my time to learn that, so when Z3 lands for the mac (hopefully) i’ll be ready for all those lovely new features…
i´’m mac user
i gotta admit that ya… better learn the Z2 first and then head to the Z3 or 3.1 now… but there are some really nice tools like actually woking with the alphas right away on the model, the subtools, transpose… r really nice and since Z2 doesn’t have em and it’s like candy to a hungry kid… i’m doin Z3.1 on parallel but ofcourse i can’t get the best results cuz of the video and ram usage… wchich scuks!!! plz o plz plz do bring zbrush to mac!!!
Hmm, let me see, both PC and Mac Versions of ZBrush use a mouse cursor/window interface. You see the same things in front of you. What? Do you need to be staring at a multi-thousand dollar Apple monitor to motivate your creativity? It’s that elitist attitude that pisses me off.
Its more that you dont take the time to look past your instinctual response. If someone has a deep seeded preference, what on earth neccessitates that its elitism and not based on reasonable working prefs?
Both sides are more guilty of bloodlust than anything else.
And what’s so bad about my post? I was just reacting to something clearly elitist sounding. I have not heard a single PC user here complaing about Macs “destroying” his creative motivation. We didn’t start this arguement, it’s always Mac people who start these kinds of threads as an excuse to teach us poor backward PC folks the error of our ways. If both ZBrush interfaces are the same on either machine, then what’s to complain about?