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Which platform do you primarily use ZBrush with? (Mac or PC)

There is a limit on the RAM with Parallels, I have had problems with my Wacom under Parallels.
As you say I just don’t like Windows . I do use Windows for some unrelated text base applications because they are the only game in town. Luckily the upgrades to my other cross platform applications come out at the same time as the Windows versions.

John

It seems like every forum i visit I see the same posts, usually along the lines of “When are you going to give us a Linux version?” The difference is I don’t jump in and say what’s the point, why don’t you just use Windows! :wink:

That was meant tongue in cheek but there’s a lot of truth in it! I have no interest in Linux but if you want to use it good luck to you and by all means put whatever pressure you can on developers to get more Linux apps released. That’s just what Mac users are doing so please respect that!

BTW I have Windows XP pro running with ZB3 on it and that was OK but I don’t enjoy the experience, I also object to all the registration nonsense. I installed XP on a partition and activated the software, then I replaced my HD and had to activate it again, then I installed Parrallels and Windows in it’s wisdom decided I needed to activate it again, by now of course I was a suspected pirate and had to answer a load of questions to justify my reactivation.

Then I upgrade my Mac OS and now Windows reports that some extension or other is either missing or corrupt and to be honest I can’t be bothered to go through the whole reinstallation and activation rigmarole again. I’ll just wait for ZB3 OSX version thanks! :stuck_out_tongue:

We teach computer animation, graphics and video skills (along with traditional skills) and the entire floor is Apple computers, approx. 300 machines.
I would like to teach ZBrush, but what ever is solid on the Mac first will be purchased.

It seems to me even small companies like Newtek, and Alias could put out both platforms at the same time. That’s mainly why we chose those applications. Because they supported both AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Now Maya is out regularly on multiple platforms… Pixologic is just going to have to step up-to-the-plate. Hire more programers if you have to.

My vote is for MAC

Amen brother Amen!

It’s either going to be BootCamp or Parallels.

Both scnearios: I pay an additional sum of money to purchase a Windows license so that I can use a piece of software. Which I already paid for.

BootCamp: I model a base mesh LightWave on OSX. I save, close everything out, & restart. I boot into XP or Vista. I pull my hair our dealing with said OS. I do my sculpting in ZBrush. I save and shut down again. Restart again. Load up OSX. Hop back into LightWave… now lets say as I’m working again in LW I decide there’s another detail I want to add… guess what I’m about to do?

Parallels: I pay an additional sum of money to purchase Parallels. I pay further to purchase Windows. I finally get Parallels working, but I am unable to operate at peak efficiency, and my Wacom’s probably gonna get a bit funky. Not to mention, I’ve still gotta deal with Windows.

So I have two options: expensive & super duper inconvenient, or even more expensive & only super inconvenient.

In short, emulation is a solution which is not viable to app users. Maybe to some (I know there are folks who have been quite successful using these solutions)… but not all.

Yes, the Mac community may seem to complain. Heck, some folks even whine.

But let’s not pretend it would be any different if it were the other way around, or try to make it out as though the Mac userbase doesn’t have a very valid basis and justification for complaint.

(Of course, Pix also has a valid basis for complaint… like I’ve said before, Apple isn’t exactly making things easy for multi-platform developers… but, that could be its own thread, really…)

Mac, Mac, Mac !!!

I’m in a similar boat as BazC, I’ve had to re-install ZB3 so many times when new builds of parallels etc has come out that I technically need to call Pixologic and get a new authentication cuz I guess i’ve worn out the one i was issued. I’ve just stopped. Though I have the luxury of using zbrush3 at work on windows. It would sure be nice to make use of all the cores and ram Parallels is not able to make use of. Parallels works, but its far from ideal. I’m definitely not able to use the full potential of my hardware. I believe i’m using 2 of my 4 cores, and maybe best case 2 of my 9 gigs of ram.

Please show us a bit of respect and give us the mac version of zb3. even if its a beta version

there ary way more designers using a MAC machine

Most creatives use a Mac. Windows machines, up until recently, haven’t been able to do effective color calibration for print. Creatives are embarrased to admit to using them.

The animation world is different. With the preeminence of Autodesk, PC is the platform of choice for 3D. There are exceptions.

I use both. I prefer Mac because OSX is way beyond any win OS.

The “Mac is a toy” snobbery of early DOS users was the initial geek reason for PC biggotry. BTW those idiots were the first guys to do backflips over Win 3.0, which was a sucky version of the Mac OS GUI.

Every PC user is using what amounts to a Mac knock off to tell the truth.
Yeah, I know the Xerox Star was the first real desktop metaphor GUI. I used that thing for 3 years starting in 1985. Thank god the Mac came along because the Star was crap by comparison.

Just wanted to set the history straight not start a flame war.

I don’t see any point in bashing other platforms, choose one & be happy with it.
As far as I’m concerned, they are both great, I happen to prefer one & my workflow is oriented that way.
Let’s keep it about ZBrush! :slight_smile:

I didn’t know it was that much of a pain to set up a windows os on a mac. You learn something new every day.

My main train of thought is this. I use a fairly new G5 at work using graphics software, the PC I built at home is faster and cheaper to use. I’m not a fan boy either way it’s just that I tend to be practical and logical.

PC’s are cheaper to build and software is more readily available including games, freeware and opensourse software. I know that’s changing over time, but that’s slow-going.

I would think that most people would be aware of the whole “software availability” issue before buying a Mac. If you prefer using a Mac, that’s fine and dandy, but while knowing this information beforehand do you buy a Mac, then complain to software makers to make a version for your OS? Most programs are still written primarily for PC’s because, as you know, they are more widely used and companies have to think about getting the most money possible first, then as you know, Mac’s come in second.

I’m guessing it’s the same thing with Pixologic. PC uses are more than likely the biggest users so they get first dibs.

As to the accuracy of this Poll Thread, who knows.

Pc

There are many software packages that I use that are cross platform and like Photoshop, Painter, Poser, Lightwave and Vue they come out at the same time as the PC version. Microsoft has a different version at a different time for their products but after all Excel was a port to the PC from the Mac. Even Apple released Safari for the Mac/PC first as a beta and then the full package at the same time.

John

I didn’t know it was that much of a pain to set up a windows os on a mac. You learn something new every day.

Its not that much of a pain to install… just a pain to restart… also windows does not see more than 2 gigs of my eight gigs of RAM

My main train of thought is this. I use a fairly new G5 at work using graphics software, the PC I built at home is faster and cheaper to use. I’m not a fan boy either way it’s just that I tend to be practical and logical.

There are no “fairly new” G5s… they are fairly old. :lol:

I would think that most people would be aware of the whole “software availability” issue before buying a Mac. If you prefer using a Mac, that’s fine and dandy, but while knowing this information beforehand do you buy a Mac, then complain to software makers to make a version for your OS? Most programs are still written primarily for PC’s because, as you know, they are more widely used and companies have to think about getting the most money possible first, then as you know, Mac’s come in second.

When I bought ZBrush… It was described as MAC and PC.
I think, therefore, I showed due diligence.
The only other developer I’ve come across with such disdain for their own MAC customers is NeverCenter (SILO3D) :mad: :mad: :mad:

I’m guessing it’s the same thing with Pixologic. PC uses are more than likely the biggest users so they get first dibs.

Well, that doesn’t explain how a piece of code as large & robust as MAYA gets simultaneous releases. Autodesk is not particularly known as a MAC developer & MAYA is a HUGE piece of software engineering, yet they seem to pull it off just fine.

so… YA! there you have it… :rolleyes:

I’d rather work on my Mac. In fact, I do.
BUT!!! I had to dig up an old PC to use ZB3 and that just adds to the frustration.

Beside my classroom in all MAC and so is our entire department.

I’ve used the ZB2 on MAC. No comparision to ZB3. I don’t even look at it anymore. ZB3 is leaps & bounds beyond 2.

Hehehe… us Mac ZBrush users are now officially known as …

‘THE FORGOTTEN’ :lol: :eek:

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like the poll is getting enough votes to be meaningful… I’m guessing Pix has a bit more than 100 registered users… If not, they need to start marketing their “money stretching” abilities! :lol:

I couldn’t even vote on the Poll.
But I use a Mac.

Since I’m a mac user, and I don’t have any Windows Machine, neither at work I’m not using Zbrush at the moment.
I bought a license as ZB3 came out because there would be an UB/Intel mac version of the software :frowning:
I’m still waiting for it as all of the mac users.
I’m using modo 301 at the moment for my work.
greetings to everyone, specially to all the forgotten :wink:
R.

Don’t even care that it isn’t yet 64 bit !!!
Running Windows on my 8core intel is a pain in the " "
I am not a PC basher at all just want to run one of my fav apps " ZB " native on my machine and OS of choice.