Thanks Ardox and Derek! Glad you liked it
Its just great piece of work. Congratulations man. I really like your work.
But I think u shold make her shin a little bit longer. The rest is just perfect! 
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from the screenshot I found it looks as though she’s holding a cigar
Maria – Thanks you, and I’ll look into your suggestion on the shin – I think I perhaps lost some length during the posing.
Squidinc – you might be right! that would make a lot of sense. Still can’t see it in my ref though (or the other screenshots I just looked up) just looks like a blurry shadow in her hand 
Thanks for pointing it out though, at least I have an idea what to look for now when I go to improve the arm
Made a couple quick changes to this – added a cigar to her hand that is more true to the original and gives a purpose for her right arm. Also tweaked her eyes and shader to bring them closer to natural proportions.
Still all in ZB, except a wiggle of the brush in photoshop to create a bit of a smoke trail from the cigar. I tried using bpr transparancy for that, but no dice. (plus since I’m already using transparency elsewhere, I can’t change the settings anyway).
Please let me know what you think!
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Great work man !
You know, I love it my only crit for you is I get no sense of weight in her hand with the gun and her arm holding the Cigar seems awkward and not relaxed holding the cigar, it seems very stiff. The girl is absolutely beautiful but if you can give her a sense of being relaxed and weight to the gun I really think this image would just be Fantastic!
Great Job oofnish! I loved the idea and the girl. I agree with Lordrych, this arm looks very heavy to be holded like that. If you bend more the fingers, to give her more weight tension, she will stay better I guess.
Thanks for sharing
magalhaes – Thanks for looking, glad you liked it!
Lordrych, Bruno – thanks a ton for the comments! I agree both arms need some more tweaking to really achieve a comfortable pose.
The stiffness in the cigar arm is probably fairly easily fixable, but giving that gun holding hand the appropriate sense of weight is likely to be a challenge.
Might have to rework the gun entirely to give her a legitimate place to hold it! Higher tension in the fingers and wrist might work, I’ll give that a try first.
Thanks again!
Maybe it is just put some tension in her muscles and as you said strain in her fingers to show weight…and as you said have her hold it like it is heavy
One more shot at making this look a bit more natural – had to depart from the pose in the reference, but to me it looks less stiff this way. Tried to just relax the arm and wrist at various angles and change the grip on the cigar, but it wasn’t buying much.
Also tried some tension in the hand and (mostly hidden) arm muscles for the hand holding the gun… I think it helped, but please let me know how it looks now! 
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Thanks for looking, and sorry for those who are sick of seeing this pic:)
That looks great, it also seems to balance it out a lot better too with her hand tipped the other way!
The cigar hand pose is definitely better like the previous guy says, it really helps to balance the pose.
The gun still looks really light though, if it were made of metal, she would never be able to hold it like that, not only would her arm not be strong enough, the balance is off, it would fall right out of her hand, even if it were made out of paper.
I’m sure you placed it that way because you are following someone else’s reference, but I wouldn’t be afraid to make it your own a little, it worked with the cigar!
Have to agree with the above; it’s a lovely illo and yet…
Cigar hand is much better, but her other hand looks afraid to get to grips with such a big weapon 
not what you’d want at all. That hand looks wrong and gives the gun no mass at all
her right leg, (the one sticking out at us) is kinda odd too, floaty… perhaps you could hook the heel against the edge of the bowl…or angle the hips so that it looks like she’s carrying/balancing the weight of sticking that leg out
Also, her eyes are lifeless, give her a little sparkle and that’ll pick her right up
Little things in the pose that need tweaking, but it’s growing into a lovely piece!
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FANTASTIC !!! :eek:
Lordrych - Thanks, there were some good composition wins by changing the cigar hand to this pose!
JoshuaMiller – Thanks for the comments, and I totally agree on the gun. I originally made the gun separately from the rest, totally discarding the reference for it because I couldn’t work out its shape. The result was an object that does not fit in the scene and doesn’t even look like the ref. I like the way the gun turned out on its own, but I’m of the strong mind now to scrap it entirely and give her a weapon with a grip in a place she can hold it!
At what point does a work stop being based on a ref and instead becomes a vague homage to it?
RawSunlight – Great comments, thank you. When I go back to this, I’ll probably redo the gun and right arm completely, hopefully it will look less wrong
The leg is suspended, indeed – I don’t get the feeling of floatyness with it though, which will make it hard to fix (not saying it isn’t there but I’m too close to see it I think). I’ll play around with it and see if I can make any improvement there.
On the eyes, I toned down the specular a lot because it was making her gaze ambiguous at smaller image sizes, Probably toned it down too much. Also, when i adjusted the eye size, I may not have refocused her eyes correctly-- ZBrush’s perspective distortion seems to change drastically when you get close to the model, so I find it difficult to point eyes at the viewer successfully
m0delista – Thank you, glad you liked it!
It looks really good, in fact, for my next personal project i think im going to do a pinup girl like those you would see on an old bomber… The only thing that kinda stands out as distracting to me, besides what others have mentioned, and i know it was probably referenced from the source and also a product of the angle, but the wrinkles on the transparent bra, to me, make her breast look like its deflating… other than that good work, hot sculpt.
Doc_Holiday – glad you liked it! bomber pinups are called ‘nose art’, which is where I got the title for the thread:) Tons of fun to do!
I hadn’t noticed the deflated look you’re seeing, but I do now 
. Its not really the wrinkle I don’t think, its the specular on the material. I adjusted the curve to make it look little more satiny, and in this case the shine seems to be lining up with a wrinkle and giving the impression of an edge where there isn’t one. Plus, since that is an non-retopologized extract from the body mesh, there’s a bunching of small polygons near the nipple area, which also seems to cause ugliness in specular results.
tl,dr – I’ll try some adjustments and see if I can re-inflate her
i disagree that she is holding a cigar i zoomed in on the original and her left hand is empty. also her hair is darker in the orginal and if u look closly her bra does not go down on the sides it is only held in place by the strings around her neck the dark spot on the orginal is just shaded because of her arm so her side is really just caughr in shadow i hope this helps plz make more drawingsthanks
oh i almost forgot as for the gun my only suggestion is to show her elbow, like have her elbow resting on thechair but visible so that it looks like she has something to rest her arm on but other than that i dont know what might help. oh yeah u should still work on the deflating thing but besides those things she looks smokin hot. definet;y like someone youd find in a futuristic cantina