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#641

Thats cool, my apologies for thinking you’d perhaps removed someone elses Zbrush relevant image & thread.
My original point/opinion/question still stands though. I’m far from on the the ‘flame SD’ bandwagon at all, i honestly couldn’t care less about your actual output, i just reckon you’re not going to endear yourself to anyone around here putting up the same image again and again and again, with the tiniest of changes that are way outside of anything to do with Zbrush/sculpting or even 3D for that matter.
I wonder, what is it you are hoping for in posting up these many tiny changes to the forum? It’s not as though you are asking anyone for advice or critique, that always seems to end badly in posturing and art school naming.

Actually, on second thought, I’m probably making a bad mistake in getting embroiled in this thread, so this will be my final post here. Do whatever you like mate, i’m not gonna let it bother me. Fill yer boots :cool:

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You use it your way, and let me use it my way…Since when it it wrong to be different in an approach to art.
Seems like it should be wrong in this forum to give so many negative opinions on some one elses works, just because they are different than the norm that’s happening at the moment.
Would be a shame, if everybody looked the same, and it would be a shame if everybody had works that looked the same also…Varity is the spice of life,…at least that is my view on the subject.

Below is another view that I thought worth posting in my skechbook…It’s one that I agree with, and was posted at the same time as yours in my other thread.

Every one has an opinion…and usually all differ in one way or another.
That’s why if you don’t like someones work and have nothing positive to say about it, then you should post nothing, and say nothing…Just like the forum policy states so clearly.
Ignor that policy, and only negative things will result…ALWAYS.

Right below is the post to my work that I was just reffering to.

I’m making a few assumptions but I’m going to run with them for now-
I really like the addition of the windmill in the oilman vs earthman piece. I think it really changes the commentary of the piece, especially how it is being wielded from an inferior position almost as a weapon of last resort. It also give the piece a little bit of hope, before it left me with nothing but a deep sense of foreboding and agreement that this was the situation we were in. Personally I think this sort of personifies humanity’s struggle with doing the right thing, often we do the easy thing until there is no other choice but to do the right (and hard) thing in order to survive. Perhaps if earthman had used this windmill lance earlier he wouldn’t be in such a predicament.

Anyway keep up the good works Glenn! Watching you work with a specific current event topic in mind is extremely educational and inspiring.
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#643

That’s a windmill?

#644

Obz…Yes…I even used refference.:smiley: …Google wind power, or Wind Turbine and you will see lots of different varities on the market…:slight_smile:
I just put mine ontop of a telephone pole is all…Or maybe it’s a cross…The mystery.LOL.:smiley: …Milling ENERGY…:slight_smile:
By the way, thanks for that other set of links you posted on Dragon Anatomy on the previous page in here…I enjoyed seeing those works in those links.
CHEERS :+1:

#645

So why would you bother posting anything at all?

If the art is not your cup of tea and you can not be professional about your reply, you should not reply. It is that simple folks!!

#646

I read windmill after about 10 min, which idk if that’s what you’re going for. I’m all for dream art as it is, it’s not surrealist if I can’t read the objects at they are. I understand the idea your portraying and the poles do refine composition, yet they don’t really read as windmills.

Though I think the thought is finally starting to hone in on something interesting. I just wish the execution of certain items would be refined. I mean it’s one thing declaring it different and unique, but when I can’t read a key piece as what it is, then idk how different we are pushing.

As a student I know my work probably means little. Yet I have 3.5 years under my belt of studying and training under some great NYC artists. I’ve also been doing cg in general for almost 8 years now. 2 of them using zbrush.

That said Im giving you a fresh eye. The opinion of the piece that matters isn’t always your own as on of the key aspects of doing pieces such as this is for them to be seen by others.

Now back on point: your painting is super. But I think you over complicate your 3d images. You have a grand idea, but I think you are over executing it so that you make up for lack of 3d knowlege.

Putting in oil here or a splash there to cover up stuff Isnt what should be done. I’ve dreamt of dolphins, and in my dreams they look like dolphins. Even if they had a lions head and ***** for eyes, well then all aspect would look as such. It’s the real meeting the unreal, but the real component is what sells surrealistic art. Sure Dali can paint a rock face look like an arm, or a tiger stretching into nothing, but you bet that that tiger will look as real as it can be, and that rock face shadowed as if it were real.

Now I know your not going for that exactly, yet the principle remains, the audience must read some belivability, must see some “real” before it can be made “surreal”.

I’m pulling for you, I am. I think you are one of the few who use the software as a true fine art medium. And though I did just say all I said I wish there were five more just like you, with the willingness to experiment.
That’s all.

#647

Framed World…Thank You for the feedback and positive contructive crit…Always welcomed.
I will see what I can do in the way of refinements at the last stages of developement…Right now, they are works in progress, and in the process of capturing the thought rather than the detail.
I had a thought of a dolphin taking it’s last breath while laying at the oil soaked waters edge…
I saw a program on the history of whaling the other day…Showed a harpooned whale taking it’s last breath…Blood shot high in the air like a water hose/fountain from it’s blow hole/breathing vent on the top of it’s head/skull, and also ran down and over it’s side from it’s blow hole/breathing vent.
So I just used oil instead of blood for my dolphin and depicted the same last breath senerio…Choking on oil, instead of blood.
It’s funny how some people can see everything in my pieces really clear as they are now, and some people can’t…Reminds me of when two people look at a cloud or a stain on the ceiling or wall, and both see what they want to see, and do see what the other does not.
Vision, mystery and imagination at work, to produce a thought.

Right below is a link to a wind turbine very muh like mine…and also a link to beached dolphins.

http://www.google.com/images?q=beached+dolphins&hl=en&rlz=1I7DLUS_en&prmd=iv&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=ZnUPTOb2LsP38AbUl9DdBQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CA0Q_AU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n45fkxRHvHs

#648

WIP.
Worked on the dolphin and the oil that has become the reason for and is in it’s last gasp of life.
Excuse the rough edges, they will all be taken care of at the end with a soft blending brush.
All work being done on it, is being done using the ZBRUSH 2.5 Brushs.

Possible Title…To Quote BOB DYLAN…THE ANSWER IS BLOWING IN THE WIND

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#649

Hey spirit, just wondering, do you actually sell any of your work (from your site?) If so is it lucrative? Just wondering if you dont mind me asking, :cool:

#650

Ares 79
I haven’t upated that site or messed with it in years…My wife put it together for me when I first started doing digital…We sold quite a few works from it over the years actually…Prints, posters, those little laqured and wooden decortive boxes that have their lids inlaid with the tiles of my paintings, and alot of just the tiles alone of my paintings, my images on tote bags ect…Basically everything that is in the Cafe Press store catalog I have sold my images on…I usually get a few things sold from it even now…usually around the holidays…which really surprizes me, seeing how the stuff in there is years old now…so that is always a nice surprize when it happens.
My wife works full time at the Verterns Administration here in Boston, and I am retired with a veterns disability pension…service connected.
She doesn’t have the time, or the energy to mess with and update the site, and I don’t have the knowhow.
We have saved our earnings over the years, have a small cottage right across the street from the ocean/Boston Harbor…and are both just enjoying life the best we can,while we still can.
I’m really not a hustler when it comes to pushing my artwork for money…I just enjoy creating it for my own pleasure, especially now that I have gotten up in the years…Selling it is a hassle that i’m happy to have outgrown…It takes alot of the pleasure out of creating it, which is the part that i’ve always enjoyed the most.
Thank you for asking…I hope I have given you a decent answer…just trying to be truthful about the selling history of my digital works…past and present.
CHEERS :+1:

#651

I didnt really say how cool that work is! Is there any zbrush work there or is traditional or photoshop? Im quite fascinated of the sheer volume of work you have there, start advertising it again, in shops hospitals evrywhere when you get the time because its well worth it, some of the people here on this site dont really appreciate your work, but I think if they took the time to see your site theyd be quite shocked, really good stuff!:+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:
By the way I was in the British Army for some time, whome did you serve with?

Jonny

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THANK YOU Jonny…I hope it’s ok to call you Jonny… :qu:
There is only one ZBRUSH piece in there if I remember correctly…It’s the closeup Dragon portrait at the top of the section titled Dragons.
I think that there are two Photo manipulations…one of my wife walking on top of a rainbow,…manepulated from a photo of the view from our cottage and the other, a piece with some people waking on a pier with a hotel in the distance, and a rainbow …manipulated from a photo at STAR ISLAND…in New HAMPHIRE where we take a vacation every once in awhile…I woke up early and saw a rainbow over the island…so I just painted it into a photo that I had already taken, and added, and painted in some people also I think…Just wanted to capture that feeling I had when I woke up and saw the rainbow, but didn’t have my camera handy at the time.
The rest of the pieces are just some stuff mostly from imagination and a few from photo refferences I had to work with in the Anatomy Forum Workshops over in CG TALK…I got permission to put those photo refferenced workshop pieces in my site before I did so…didn’t want to infring on anyones copy rights.
I have a few hundred newer pieces to put in the site, but just never seem to have the ambition to get around to doing it, and my wife has been going full blast at the Veterans Administration, so I hate to even bother her with all the work and agrevation it takes to put new pieces in the site.
Someday maybe…She is getting ready to retire in a couple of years…That will give her something to keep her occupied…:smiley: Should be plenty more to add in there by then…:slight_smile:

About my military adventure…:smiley: and service…I served in the U.S. NAVY…Submarine Service…Atlantic Fleet …SSBN 618 THOMAS JEFFERSON Blue Crew,…as a Launcher Technican for the POLARIS Nuclear Missiles,… 16 of them, 2 warheads each, durning the Vietnam War…Had my finger on the button/switches to end it all, too many times to think about, while up north patroling off of the coast of the Soviet Union…A real life nightmare, to say the least…90 day patrols, no surfacing…A youthful adventure in the extreme…and an unpleasent thought when I think back on how close we came to ending it all …for all.
I got out of the navy in 1973 and went on to persue what has always been my passion…ART… just like you have done :slight_smile:
Really glad that you enjoyed my site and works…Will make my wife happy also…:slight_smile:
Take Care …Jonny
Glenn

#653

Thanks for (once again) the swift reply, I’ve been using Zbrush since late 2008, its such an easy app to get to grips with dont you think?
I left the Army in late 2007 after serving in Iraq, its crazy that you say you had damage to your fingers as I had too. I served with the first battalion, PWRR, of the armoured infantry. I unluckily went over a mine and nearly lost 2 fingers as well as heavy head trauma, which has now lead to amnesia. I left via medi discharge. Then, as you have said, turned to my love of art. I was always drawing whilst serving as much as I could, so even in the midst of training and combat my art was always embedded in me.
After leaving the forces I found a magazine called IMAGINE FX? dont know if you know of it? Anyway, it led me to where I am now. Ive been hooked ever since. Im 30 years old now and wanna pursue life as a digital artist, (not sure which route to take as theres so many of us) So, with this in mind Im in the middle of writing a book called… actually I’d better not say it here, heres my email: [email protected] heres a clue, its about a moon in our solar system.

Hope to chat soon m8 take care

Jonny

#654

Hi Jonny…Thanks for the link, i’ll get in touch in the morning.
Severe leg injury in my case.No sleep,mentally and phisically exhausted,careless and in too much of a hurry to get to my battle stations post durning battle stations missile…Stupid machinery/stupid me…Laid up and out of commission for a few months, still a problem…Minor compared to what your injuries are…WAR SUCKS.
I think ZBRUSH is alot more easy to understand now than it was in the #2 version, which is the version that I first picked up…I’m just playing catch up, while trying to keep up…Hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and hard for an old dog to learn new tricks,…but i’m giving it my best shot anyway…That’s all I can do.
Hey, YOU TAKE CARE GUY, and have a GREAT ONE…CU…:+1:

Glenn

#655

WIP.
My visual response/interpretation of what has been going on in my sketchbook …I thought it worth recording visually…Will add to it as time goes on…:smiley:
Created from imagination, …my own
Sculpted from a primative sphere
Total ZBRUSH

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#656

Nice head study here SD. I like the hair effect too (though zb is not the best app for this).
You old warriors… I just come from the battlefield of art, where nuclear weapons don’t exist, but there’s everything else… stupidity mostly (but you already know this). Cheers :slight_smile: :lol:

#657

Michalis…THANK YOU :slight_smile: I was watching a new ZBUSH tutorial the other day, and the guy did some pretty nice looking hair using the slash brush, smooth brush, and the snakehook brush…I think the tutorial is in the tips and tricks section, or one of the ZBRUSH classroons sections…Called hair and fur by …I can’t remember his name off hand…But it’s there in ZBRUSH somewhere…I haven’t tried his method yet, but it looked pretty easy…Just thought I would mention it, just in case it slipped by you.

WIP.
Total ZBRUSH

Title…To quote BOB DYLAN…THE ANSWER IS BLOWING IN THE WIND

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#658

http://SpiritDreamer.cgsociety.org/gallery/450942/

http://www.hoocher.com/Ingres/Ingres_Copy_after_Ingres-s_1804_Self_Portrait.jpg

???

how is this not stealing other peoples art??

i actually kinda dig your style, but you should seriously rethink taking this one down from your CG Talk gallery. it’s just not right man. other than that, nice work. i just hope that most of it is actually coming from you.

#659

Deckard 007…That is a piece that I did in the Anatomy Forum Workshop at CG TALK…The Wip for it can be found in my CG TALK Sketchbook and The Forum Workshop thread…I can’t remember what number workshop it is in off hand, there were twenty plus workshops, and I participated in all of them.
No tracing or whatever allowed in those workshops, all done freehand.
Everyone in the workshops put the results of their MASTER STUDIES in their CG TALK Portfolio…INCLUDING Magdalena /Intervain who is a well know and respected member of ZBRUSH Central and also CG TALK.
So I have no idea why you think I should take that piece out of my portfolio.
If I remember correctly, I wrote that it is my personal take on a masters work and is a study by me of a work by a MASTER painter… Ingress…So what’s the problem…:qu:

#660

Insincere humility and sanctimony are perpetual fraternity… say the mocking birds