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Layers Bug? Loading ZB3.5 model into ZB4.0, Layers playing up.

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#1

Please excuse me if this has been posted before. I tried to search here for a similar topic but could not find one.

I also don’t want to offend anyone at Pixologic as I love ZBrush. I noticed this issue on the day of release for ZB 4 but didn’t want to post anything just in case I was missing something.

When I load in a ZB3.5 .ztl into ZB 4.0, it seems as if the layers have to be converted and updated to work between the different versions.

In ZB4 the layers are screwed, they don’t turn on and off correctly and on different models produces weird distorted effects.

There is also a big slow down in comparison between software versions. I didn’t want to speed up the below videos, so they are real time to demonstrate this.

I would be happy to hand over a model to test, for anyone at Pixologic.

Example videos:

(I recommend “Save Target As…”)

http://www.ir-ltd.net/uploads/Layers-Bug-ZB3.5.mov (Working)

You can see how each version behaves differently to the other, when turning off layers. Same file different versions of ZBrush.

http://www.ir-ltd.net/uploads/Layers-Bug-ZB4.mov (Broken)

Thanks

Lee

#2

Has anyone else experienced this? Did the Beta testers come across it?

#3

Hey Infinite

From what I can see in the videos this will solve your issue. Before saving the Tool out of 3.5r3 turn off all of the Layers.

Then when you open the tool in 4, go to the highest subdiv level and turn on your layers. Eevrything should transfer fine then.

Let me know if that works if not then I would be more then happy to look at the tool.

Paul Gaboury
3D Application Engineer

#4

Hi Paul, thank you for taking the time to reply.

Unfortunately that does not solve the problem :cry: I did as you suggested but the layers don't work how they should, they are either no existent when turned on or do weird distorted things. Are you guys aware of a compatibility issue with .ztl layers between ZB 3.5 and ZB 4.0?

1st Image- ZBrush 3.5 R3. All layers on as should be
2nd Image - ZBrush 4.0. All layers turned on after loading. Not working.

[attach=218719]Copy of zb-bug-01.jpg[/attach]

Paul are you a ZBrush tester? I see you are a Mod here?

I would be happy to share a file for testing. Is it possible you could PM me?

Attachments

Copy of zb-bug-01.jpg

#5

I have similar troubles with new layer system. Most of my old models become unusable in zb4. But the worst thing - layers sometimes doesn’t work well even for the models created inside zb4. There are many random different glitches-model explosion, masking issues, colorize button etc (some of them where discussed here, so I don’t specify them). It seems problem is complex and can’t be solved by some tricks, so I hope Pixologic will fix it in zb4.1.

#6

Is Pixologic aware of this issue? is it being looked into? I’m surprised it slipped by the Beta testers?

Paul? Aurick?

I can’t really use ZBrush 4 yet because of this, I would very much like to move over from 3.5 R3.

#7

I have had terrible problems with the new layers as well. Check out this thread: http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=93472

Will

#8

Why they changed layer system at all? For the polypaint? Mudbox works fine with separate layers for the sculpting and painting. Current layers workflow too hard and tricky, imo. It was so fine to hit one button to create new layer for the current subd level and sculpt in it. All they need is better organizing tools-folders, drag&drop etc. But now I afraid to use them. I haven’t certainty about their behaviour.