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Ignis Sacer (update 4 Feb)

Hi BC,

Wow, an admirable effort. Good luck with your submission…

Very cool process to watch, thanks for sharing.

Sven

Would you try an experiment for me?
Blur the texture of the wheat on the foreground.
I downloaded it and tried it.
As is, there is conflict to the eye.
Two fighting textures.
I am prejudiced when looking, having seen it from inception till now.
This was an idea thrown out by two impartial viewers.
edit: was going to submit my download first, but I didn’t think you had that good a sense of humor.

Bonecradle I have seeing this post and the update is just a MASTERPIECE ART WORK¡¡¡
I am happy when you post here because you are a great artist that share your knowlodged and the way you reach your wonderful image¡¡
Thanks for post
Andreseloy

This is “GREAT” Ilove this one, more of this
Great job… :+1: :+1: :+1:

An absolutely STUNNING and ORIGINAL piec of artwork. Depth, colour and texture (aswell as atmosphere) make this one of the nicest pieces i’ve ever seen.

Did you do it all in ZBrush? Or is there some Photoshop magic in there too…?

Nice job Bonecradle this image works for me.

If you’re interested in doing some further study in the effects of lighting look to the paintings of the Old Masters, Rembrant, Jean Froganard etc.

Hey Bonecradle

Brilliant piece!

I have to say seeing the progress of this piece gave me great inspiration to produce my own piece (see Gnome Fisherman).

Just to let you know that you make people like me want to produce better art.

…and that’s a compliment. :slight_smile:

Congratulations!
Wonderful image. :+1:

I submitted this picture to another online art gallery but had it rejected because of “inconsistent or poor lighting” :confused:

Rather than just touch up the old picture I did another render trying for a different ambience. It turned out as quite a different picture.

I thought this might be interesting from the point of view of how much lighting and colour/contrast can change the nature of a picture.

Maybe this time they will accept it :rolleyes:

well, they better should - thats hall of fame stuff, Davey, all of them but i love this latest update in particular! kudoskudoskudos!

i have watched this project develop with constantly increasing awe. the new fantastico lighting and “new” sky made me think even more of boschs apocalyptic/hell images - i bet theres one tiny apocalypse going on towards the left :slight_smile:

kudos once again!

  • juandel

If “Kudos!!” = Wonderfull then I agree ! :))

Hi Bonecradle,

This last render turns your piece into a magnificent whole.

I wondered to myself why this simple adjustment in lighting makes such a difference - which led me down the following thought path.

A long time ago (in my days as a student of painting) I had a flash of insight about perspective: really,it’s a system for unification, a method of tying each of the elements of a work to the others (beyond the obvious power that perspectival projection has to create deep, realistic space.)

In this last render, the light and shadow system does the same thing. You achieve a unity and coherent drama that the earlier renderings somehow lacked. There is also a kind of “force” from the left that overcomes the symmetry of the centrally placed figure… and because of that the picture takes on a dynamic drama, a sense of some great anticipation.

Anyway, that’s how I explained it to myself. You’ve taken something very good and with light, made it great.

A wonderful effort!

Sven


Hi Bone
Some doodle variations :slight_smile:
For me first was the more strong :slight_smile:
A & B are your original
If you don’t like or want not of course I erase my post!
Have fun modeling paintings!
Pilou

A fantastic piece of work. You really have raised the bar.
The only thing I would say is that the figure is lit by a warm yellow light but the sky is gray. Maybe if you made the BG sky more of a moody sunset, with hints of orange/yellow everything would fit even better?

BC, I have been watching this images and it’s predacessors (sp?) since you started and I have to say that whoever turned this final image down should be quartered and dismembered and dragged thru the town square. You did one of the more fantastic jobs on this piece than any I have seen in a while. Very clean modeling and even the 1st one on this thread is great!!! but the latest improved version is even better. So I hope you didn’t take that other gallery’s slap in the face too hard. You deserve to be in any gallery you post to, especially with this level of artistry and technical know how. :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1: This level of work is the driving force that gives people like me something to aspire to achieve. Looking forward to you next mind blower… :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:

Thanks people. This picture took a lot of sustained focus and energy, even through the monotonous times, so your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Pilou: is that a subtle way of telling me to stop fiddling? I promise you, this one is well and truly tucked into bed now and you won’t have to endure another version, though it seems you have the options pretty well covered :wink: :smiley:

Sven: true words and I have just read the same in a book on lighting and rendering. I think it is time for me to take conscious control of these sorts of visual tools and cues, rather than leaving it all up to chance.

Ron and Cwahl: I’m glad if people enjoy looking at my work and get something out of it. I know I get a lot of inspiration from other’s pictures, but when I look at my own I see mostly the flaws - maybe it is the artist’s conundrum. (Oh, and the latest version was accepted - a small triumph for my ego :slight_smile: )

Hi bone
Oh no ! Fiddling as you want :slight_smile:
But you will discover than a variation of a project some worked is rarely better than the first :slight_smile:
It’s a curious rule but quasi always verify :slight_smile: “The first attempt shot rule” :smiley:
Pilou

I like the warm light bathing your image and the shadow on your pitch fork is a nice touch. This adjusted value change cuts down on some of the attention that the pitch fork was getting (partially because of the light value of the handle and also because of its sharp detail). All the values in the image are improved. You got a few hints and you ran with it, 100% improvement.

The only place that I can see a need for improvement, and this is nitpicking, is the clouds. You could lose the little cloud behind the pitch fork. The clouds to the right are a bit spotty, you could unify them. You do have a penchant for skinny clouds.

You might feel a bit put upon by your image, but what a great learning experience and you did so well. This time I say congratulations.

I’ve had zb2… for about 2months… and I can’t even imagine how you created this… totally awsome pic…

It´s really impressive