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It has been a while that you have seen me :(, a couple of years, but now I´m back, and I throw myself into zbrush again. I want to ask you all a question.

I am working on something (a dream may come true, I hope)…I already started helping young amputee kids with prostetics, kids age from 1 to … . I make drawings for them to put on their legs (prothestics), the kids love it, it really makes them happy, and also the parents are very happy with this. The kids do not longer hate their prostetics anymore (well, that is…they hate their legs, but now they can live with it, because of the prints on their legs). It is important for those kids to accept their legs, with nice prints on it, it will be less hard for them to accept it, because now they can have beautiful legs. I plan for the future to make a full job out of this. It feels so good when you see those kids walking, and being happy with their legs…I also plan to, in the future that will be, to make layouts for wheelchairs for the kids (maybe also for older handicapped people). I want to keep on drawing myself for those kids, but I want to ask you, if I may use your prints for those kids. I know how important it is for an artist that people respect the copyrightfacts, thats why I ask the permission this way, I won´t steel anything until the author has given me the permission to use the prints. If you are intrested in sending me some of your prints, please contact me on my msn: [email protected] or on my icq nr 166460369.

Thanks anyway for reading this :slight_smile:

Edit: Please read the whole topic.

hello… for me, Angelique, no problem of course to use my drawings … a very emotional and sensitive approach you have, so i’m very friendly with you… M.

Hi Angelique
Take any of my digital images as you want, I am not yet an artist :cool:
Pilou

Please feel free to take any artwork you like to see, it would be great to have it to such great use.

Feel free to use my gallery.

I agree with Marcel, though I’m not much of an artist but maybe there is something you’ll like to see.

Please let us know, it would be great to know our work was put to such great use.
:slight_smile:

I had to reply to this post…!
Angelique, feel free to go through my Gallery here, use anything you want, and if you require a higher resolution image for your purposes, email me at:

[email protected]

and I’ll provide whatever you need.

Thank you all, so far :slight_smile: I´m very glad you want to give some drawings for this purpose away. I will contact you by PM this week…

Thanks people :slight_smile:

Same here , not much of a pro here , but if find any use in it. Dunno if it’s suited for little kids though , I mostly create demons or thingies from the matrix :stuck_out_tongue:

Everything is okay with me. The kids age are between 1 and 24 or something, those young people are very intrested in beautiful prints.

At this moment I´m making a collage for a kid with the of 2 1/2 years old, who has lost two whole legs, very sad to see, but when I think, I can make beautiful legs for him :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
And when he will become 18, he wants that kind of prints you make :). So, in the future, some time, he will be very happy that you´ve helped with your prints.

Hello Angelique!! I am not an artist, but if u want feel free to use any my compositions!! Many many good luck for your work !! :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:

hi Angelique … this is such a nice idea :slight_smile:

are there some dimensions or proportions that work best for this?

I imagine some of the young guys might like tribal tattoos or something science-fictional and sporty, like corroded metal with mech-robot numbers

and Mothra (Mosura) is great for anyone :slight_smile:

I would certainly answer yes to any specific request for this project (from either ZBC or my Renderosity gallery)

best wishes,

Kevin

I doubt you could use any of my pictures, especially the ones I am about to finnish :slight_smile: But in any case, feel free to use any of my pictures posted here at ZBC for this specific purpose.

I wish you all the best in your admirable endeavour :+1: :+1:

very worthy cause…please feel free to use any of my works for this project if any fit your needs. Kudos :+1:

ditto :+1: such a cause

Angelique, your idea does seem a good cause but can you verify a few things?
Is this a charity idea, ie non-profit? If so, how is it that you say you’re hoping to make a job from this? Does that mean you intend to profit from the ZBrushers free art? Also, who’ll be paying you for the prints, will it be the amputees? If not, who else? Can you provide us with details of the organisation where you have worked with the disabled children and can you guarantee that the artists’ rights will not be infringed?
It all seems a very good and noble idea, but naturally the alarm bells start ringing when there is profit involved.

Angelique, your idea does seem a good cause but can you verify a few things?
Is this a charity idea, ie non-profit? If so, how is it that you say you’re hoping to make a job from this? Does that mean you intend to profit from the ZBrushers free art?

I thought that the sentence…i plan to make a job of it was clear. obvious not that clear :)…You know there are no businesses who do this kind of work, and I felt the need for it. I can´t do this job my whole life for free, that is for sure. I have my first patient now (2 1/2 years old), he goes to a special school, other kids see that…other parents see that, and will come to me, I´m sure that in a few months I can´t handle all those kids on my own, so I have to hire people then…and I know that it is important not to infringe the copyright for a profit business. That´s why I ask it, you don´t have to do it, off course. That will be okay for me, I can draw too :slight_smile:
And…most kids want cars, or for example, this kid wants Bob the Builder on his legs, there are a lot of free pictures on the internet which I can use for this kind of wishes.

And do I plan to make profit out of your art, I think I don´t do that, because I want to respect your rights, and so I ask people this question, if you don´t want to, you don´t have to. It´s just a question, and if there are people who want to make a drawing especially for the kids, or want to give me one or more pictures for use on those legs, it will make a lot of people very happy, yes me too off course, but for me, as I told I draw too, I will have a lot of work, drawing and making nice drawings then when I start with this.

Also, who’ll be paying you for the prints, will it be the amputees? If not, who else?

The amputees theirself have to pay me then.

Can you provide us with details of the organisation where you have worked with the disabled children

I have not worked with disabled children so far. Me myself was a disabled child when I was young, and since one year now I have lost one underleg myself, and I saw little children who also lost their legs, both or one…and because I draw too, the idea came to me that if the prostetics have something nice on it, that the children can better accept their legs…I meet those children when i am in the revalidationcentre.

and can you guarantee that the artists’ rights will not be infringed?
It all seems a very good and noble idea, but naturally the alarm bells start ringing when there is profit involved.

Let that bell ring!! :slight_smile: It is good that you ask those question because I don´t want problems either. Maybe i am thinking to simpel about copyright, that can be true, and if i make a mistake here, you may tell me so. Then I shall tell a mod to delete this message, no problem. But because i draw too…i really don´t want to abuse the rights from artists…There is already too many things stolen on the internet…and I hate it too, it hurts me too when I see that an artist has given up his homepage because of the stealing.

If there are any questions please shoot!! :slight_smile:

and maybe in the future I can talk about contracts or something with the artists, I really don´t know that yet at this moment. But what I am planning to do, if someone has given my some pictures, then if i used them, they will receive some photos.

Angelique,
You seem to be involved in a creative and worthy cause. I doubt that any of my artwork would be suitable for your purposes. However, I would be happy to allow you to use any image you want, if it helped someone feel better. Good luck with your new project. :cool:

Hi!

I have not much to offer, but the idea really impresses me! Feel free!

greets!

“I have my first patient now (2 1/2 years old), he goes to a special school, other kids see that…other parents see that, and will come to me, I´m sure that in a few months I can´t handle all those kids on my own, so I have to hire people then…”

You say you don’t work with children, but to clarify the above, how is it that you have a patient? Do you not mean customer? Also, if you’ve sold the prints to one child, or even a dozen or more, how will you make so much money to hire other people? It does not seem to be that kind of business unless you charge a lot for the prints!

“and I know that it is important not to infringe the copyright for a profit business. That´s why I ask it, you don´t have to do it, off course. That will be okay for me, I can draw too
And…most kids want cars, or for example, this kid wants Bob the Builder on his legs, there are a lot of free pictures on the internet which I can use for this kind of wishes.”

Yes, copyright is an issue here. You must realise that in your example given, the Bob the Builder character is subject to copyright and you would need permission to sell anything with his likeness. However, if you use your own drawings there’ll be no problem. Have you any examples that you could show us?

“And do I plan to make profit out of your art, I think I don´t do that, because I want to respect your rights, and so I ask people this question, if you don´t want to, you don´t have to. It´s just a question, and if there are people who want to make a drawing especially for the kids, or want to give me one or more pictures for use on those legs, it will make a lot of people very happy, yes me too off course, but for me, as I told I draw too, I will have a lot of work, drawing and making nice drawings then when I start with this.”

But clearly you do plan on making financial gain from the art that is given you, otherwise there would be no business sense in it. Basically you are taking the art to sell to the amputees

“The amputees theirself have to pay me then.”

Who are paying you a sum of money in return (as you say in the quote).

“Let that bell ring!! It is good that you ask those question because I don´t want problems either. Maybe i am thinking to simpel about copyright, that can be true, and if i make a mistake here, you may tell me so. Then I shall tell a mod to delete this message, no problem. But because i draw too…i really don´t want to abuse the rights from artists…There is already too many things stolen on the internet…and I hate it too, it hurts me too when I see that an artist has given up his homepage because of the stealing.”
“and maybe in the future I can talk about contracts or something with the artists, I really don´t know that yet at this moment. But what I am planning to do, if someone has given my some pictures, then if i used them, they will receive some photos.”

Yes, I think you should reassess your business plan, if you are not absolutely sure about copyright! There must surely be bodies which you can approach for advice in Holland about this, particularly on legal matters and drawing up a contract?
As you are asking artists to donate their art for the good of these children, you could consider a possible link up to a disabled charity, as a more appealing idea than the commercial route you are taking.

Regardless, it would be better to get things clear before you enter into any agreement on line. Artists may be concerned as to what they are actually agreeing to. Allowing a stranger to have an open ended and unlimited access to all their work in a gallery for commercial gain, without any money going to the artist, is not wise without a contractual agreement.

Of course any artists agreeing with you on this, it is their prerogative. :slight_smile:

DanM,
You are absoluty right about all you said. I am talking right now with a lot of people about this issue, i mean a lot of issues concerning this. I hope that all is clear now. I will tell you all, how far I have come with things. I don´t know much about copyrights and from you all I can learn that too, it makes me wiser too you know. But the facts stays if anyone wants to donate a picture, it is his choice. And when I really have started and have enough money to make contracts I will contact those people, until then I wil NOT use the pictures, then I keep on drawing them my self. At this moment, for that little costumer I don´t ask money, I just want money for the silk I have to buy and for the ink, not more…

I hope again I have clearified some more to you, if not ask! It will help me too :slight_smile:

Of course you can use mine, hope you find something interesting, I do mostly kids things for my grandson so maybe there maybe something useful. :wink: