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#581

Hey there Etcher! First time I’ve found some time to go over your whole thread. Really love your approach, as I’m in a similar state of mind (as far as cg goes anyways ;)). I’ve been convinced over a period of time that though zbrushing is not the same as sculpting with one’s hands, it’s the same as sculpting with one’s mind if you know what I mean. I can never go back to sculpting without these bases. My only dilemma now is, and maybe you had it as well, is would one know anatomy by studying himself* better rather than studying other work (of course with all the implications of that, not excluding the outer help as well). Sometimes I feel that a person has been disabled to accomplish in the start because of his or hers ideas that he or she can do and not exclusively can’t do.

Anyways, great work! Congrats on top row :+1:

*not necessarily studying but just, well, knowing.

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BTW the ultimate goal this side is to create rigged bones, muscles and ligaments that act accordingly, fat, organs, minus life for now I’m afraid, and finish it up with some sort of skin clothes, cause I don’t feel that the skin should be modeled by a logical standpoint, at least not in a standard way, so it wouldn’t just look as if there is all that beneath, but there would it be, in an animation program of course, but with a help of this beautiful software :slight_smile:

#583

cherub_rock:Cherub_rock: thanks man!

Quote:” My only dilemma now is, and maybe you had it as well, is would one know anatomy by studying himself* better rather than studying other work (of course with all the implications of that, not excluding the outer help as well)”

I think you’re making a spot-on observation: I have to agree; when I study anatomy, I use a lot of reference books (“how to draw/sculpt anatomy and the human form”, etc…) but I find myself using them to learn/read how other artists see or analyze anatomy rather than as a reference to sculpt from. F.e. I see how they analyze a scapula, and then I make my own analysis using a scapula from a real skeleton. The problem with reference drawings/sculpts can be that they are already an interpretation – I need the real thing… . This gave me a lot of trouble in the past when studying muscles & tendons; it’s hard to see (even from medical anatomy books) how everything works and connects. I never attended autopsy classes, and for me, that’s a real setback. I think this is where I would –again- agree to what you’re writing in your second post: it would be a great “second best” solution (autopsy being the best) to see an intricately detailed, polypainted and rigged version of a human body as a stepping stone to study anatomy & body mechanics… .

So, in conclusion, I have to agree; it would be best to study and know anatomy, use “Artist’s Anatomy Books” mostly to get an idea of how they see and study it.Talk to you later!

#584

hello0000~~ well done :Dcongrat~ top row Great work:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:

#585

tokio: thank you friend!!! :smiley: :+1: ! I hope you are doing fine!

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#586

oh my!..haha your anatomy study is completly insane dude! really love the style and all the dedications u show, a true inspiration!! keep rocking mate:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:small_orange_diamond:+1:

#587

Thanks Jorge! Will do!!! :sunglasses: :+1: !

@Moni: check this; bigger backtracker :stuck_out_tongue: .

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#588

i love your thread always learning from it plz check mine and give me some tips

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=77229

i loved your dante bust and all other works

#589

Hahahahahaa! That`s so funny! :smiley:
Happy holidays! See you next year, same place!
Hehe well… no Zbrush for you now, but you can still sculpt with snow. Hahahaha:D

#590

Happy New Year!!! Hope you had wonderful holidaZe with your family! :smiley:

#591

Happy new year my friend!
I wish i could be skiing like you right now!!! enjoy your holidays!!

#592

Adampof: thanks a lot! Hey man, I checked your thread, you’re making some great progress! Seems like you’re in the right place (=ZBC) at the right time (=age 15)– keep going!
Here are some books I use as a ref for anatomy:
(these are the books I always seem to come back to)

Human anatomy by Gottfried Bammes:
“Die Gestallt des Menschen” ISBN 3-473-48378-8
“Studien zur Gestalt des Menschen” ISBN 3-363-00761-2
“Menschen zeichnen” ISBN 3-363-00720-5
“Arbeitsbuch zur Künstleranatomie” ISBN 3-473-48374-5
Animal anatomy by Gottfried Bammes:
“Grosse tieranatomie” ISBN 3-473-48366-4
“Studien zur Gestallt des Tieres” ISBN 3-473-48342-7

These books are only available in German (not a problem for me) but they are without a doubt the best references on constructive anatomy.

Medical anatomy:

Human Male V.3 – www.anatomytools.com

CD-ROM “Sobotta – Atlas der Anatomie des Menschen” V. 3.0 R. Putz and R.Pabst ISBN 9789031130009

I noticed the “inspirations” thread you started, I think that’s a great initiative, I’ll post some stuff there in the weeks to come!

Moni-poroni: Thank you!!! Happy New Year friend :slight_smile: !!! Yeah, the holidaZe were cool (although the weather was a mixed bag… Föhn is not good for skiing…) I didn’t touch ZBrush… but I ordered a bucketload of books and DVD’s… some awe-inspiring stuff in there, I’ll post a full report of my findings in the weeks to come. Now, my brain has the size of a small weather balloon… there won’t be enough days in 2010!!! Woohoo!!! :+1:

Yona: Thank you!!! Happy New Year friend :laughing: !!! Yup, we should team up for a short-ski in the Alps someday…! :+1:

#593

Hey there!! Thats a great new backtracker!! :D Very cool design! If you accept my invitation on myspace youre my first friend there!
I signed in a few weeks ago, but I didnt have time to make a cool page like yours so far. BUT... one of my goals for 2010 is making my own homepage. I already bought it.. erm.. or to be exact -- I hired it because its a only-as-long-as-you-pay-for-it-its-yours-homepage. :sunglasses:
Theres just a placeholder at the moment. Unfortunatley I put a bug in my own ear. :roll_eyes: I hate when that happens! :D Thats where the weather-balloon heads come from! Thousands of thousands of bugs!
I want to learn html, php and flash and everything else I need for making a cool homepage. Right now I dont even know what I need to learn XD ...all I know is that I dont want to use templates longer than necessary.

I agree with you – there won`t be enough days in 2010!!!

#594

…Jean Dubuffet?
he would have liked your Skeletton research texture! :sunglasses:
And Happy new year of ZBrushing :wink:
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#595

moni-poroni: hey twice first friend :slight_smile: - yup - changed the backtracker a bit to keep it in line with the layout of the YouTube & MySpace stuff, needless to say, I’m looking forward to see your homepage when it’s up! Quote:" I want to learn html, php and flash and everything else I need for making a cool homepage" I know what you mean… I find this html stuff difficult, that’s why I did the MySpace thing with templates I made in Photoshop (you can Google’em up, they’re in my Flickr account). So, you got weather ballon head too… :laughing: … must be a sight to see… :smiley: aaaargh the days are tickin’ away… must start sculpting… .

Frenchy Pilou: Thank you Frenchy! I’m wishing you a great Z-year too :slight_smile: ! Thanks for reminding me of Jean Dubuffet, now there’s a great artist! And, indeed, the texture resemblance is striking :smiley: ! Makes me want to see my creations printed out even more… nothing beats being able to walk around a sculpt, environment or installation… why are there so many ideas… and so little time… :roll_eyes: .Thanks for dropping by Frenchy, always a pleasure :sunglasses: :+1: .

#596

Hey! :slight_smile:
You find this html stuff difficult… oh …ahem… aaaaaaahh!! Dont scare me!!! :D Youre also on flickr?? Where arent you, hehe? Yeah, time flies! I hope youve already started working on something.
I haven`t heard a POOF… so I think you and your baloon head are alright! :smiley:

#597

Moni-Poroni: Greetings, fellow balloon head. My huge cranium is doing ok atm since I have stopped feeding it html. Right now, I just finished polygrouping and fitting the Tenebrae’s teeth so I can detail them tomorrow, I think I’m done for today (= turn off computer and … continue reading 3 books on ZBrush I purhased … :roll_eyes: ) :slight_smile: :+1: .

#598

Hi Geert best wishes for 2010, new books on Z your reading? Titles?

#599

mutte696: Thanks bud, best wishes to you too! On the books; I’m gonna’ post a full lowdown in a day or so, stay tuned!

#600

wow this is one amazing thread :smiley: