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Duke Nukem Forever Characters

killtheanimator- I think my site got over run with hits… I cant get on either!

This truly is some of the best work I’ve seen. I really hope that DNF does get to see the light of day in the future, either as a commercial product or even if it means releasing what has been done for free. It truly saddens me that so much time and love has gone into this product and yet, it will probably never see the light of day. Hopefully at some point we will all get to experience it for ourselves.

Again, nice work marks, it truly is some excellent work that you’ve posted.

Good luck to you in the future.

Why not simply respond to my initial post with something as basic as…

"No need to worry. I got the okay already Thanks for the neighborly concern though." Instead, you pretty much spanked me. You didn't appreciate my opinion. That's fine. Because of that, I posted a mature, "let's handle this one-on-one & in private" sort of post. That is, after all, what adults do. Still, you insist on publicly spanking me, much to the delight of some here, I'm sure. Exactly who does that serve? Exactly how does that make you any better? Contrary to your own assumption, my initial post was never written with malice of forethought or ill intent. I may have been a bit too direct, but I was only saying to you what I would hope others would say to me. A community is built of people. A good community has members who watch each other's backs. If I posted similar images and you questioned my post, I wouldn't have a problem. If you were wrong, I would do my level best to clear things up instead of being outright rude. I've got absolutely nothing against you as a person. Nothing. I don't even know you. I sincerely do like your work though. I <u><b>do</b></u> respect the amount of effort put into these pieces. I didn't simply assume that you were maliciously trying to undermine 3DR or anything. Please don't think that. If I did assume anything it was that you were so excited about your work that you <u><b>might</b></u> have posted in haste. It happens. With work as high quality as what you posted, most people would be excited to show it off too. Who wouldn't be, right? Again, my heart was in the right place. One member looking out for another. Whether it be critiques or sage advice, a board like this is built on people minding <u><b>your</b></u> business. If we all minded <u><b>our</b></u> business this board would be a cold and lonely place.

(EDIT>> “Your” as in collectively not you personally.)

I'm trying to be an adult here, Mark. I would expect you to do the same.

Just for the record, I’m not some angry douche. I don’t make it a point of flaming like some 12 year old. I’m 34 and those days are long gone. I’m usually an easy going guy. I appreciate everybody’s lovely opinion of me though. :roll_eyes: Great for the self-esteem. :wink:

Anyway, I’m done with this thread. I hope you all understand.

Cheers,

Rob

:roll_eyes:

Hey Cooke!
You got to understand that not everybody spends their whole time on the internet arguing on posts semantics or giving lessons. Mark mentioned early that there was nothing to worry about. No need to get all worked up.

Mark, good to see all this being shown at least. I am wondering how many revisions and iterations you guys went through for things like Duke and the pod girl! Considering those are icons from the first game you might have what, 10 versions of them now? Since the tech kept improving over the years.

Is this DUke the source for the ingame model shown in that trailer where he makes pushups in a cloud of smoke? That looked good!

Good stuff, hope to see somewhat of a (even incomplete) release of what you guys did someday. One can hope…

I made an account just to comment here on the small “drama”.

Firstly though: OUTSTANDING artwork. Seriously. Very awesome stuff!

But Cooke is DEAD ON correct about his warnings and everything. And you guys, instead of bashing on him and flaming as the case may be, are way off base… He was just trying to help and I tell you, I wish someone warned ME about it years ago because I almost ended up in a lawsuit. I most certainly lost my job and it tarnished my rep with some people even to this day. I’m not even allowed to talk on a public forum like this because heaven forbid a lawyer finds it and decides to kick it back up. And what did I do? I posted work for a game, AFTER the game was released, and they came after me for it. “copyright infringement” they said. Whether or not they had that right is debatable, but at the time… a kid barely starting in the industry, I wasn’t going to take them to court.

Mark got permission though, so thats what I didn’t do. You’re clear there, Mark, but your hostility is just plain odd. He was trying to help- in case you didn’t know. How about, hey thanks, but don’t worry I got permission?

“everyone does it” was my logic too, and I lost my job and almost ended up destroyed, basically. It happens, don’t think it doesn’t.

Thanks Cooke for just bringing it to light for those that don’t know. It was way more than I ever had.

And once again, awesome art, man. I’m sure- especially since 3DR knows about it… you will be fine and you’ll be picked up for a great job. Best of luck!

cockinthepuss, please stop posting!
If you need some kind of attention go to some kind of “bar” or “club” and meet somebody special.
Stop posting here and making a discussion around yourself!
This is an art forum, so… you get it, right ?

great work man
the details on the Octabrain just beautiful
sorry about the close of the company and i am sure u will soon find a good gig:+1:

octobrain looks really disgusting ( supposed to be a compliment) and the chick looks friggin’ hot!!!

Here’s how I see the issue: Marks entered into a contract, probably stipulating that he would not show off resources from the game in this manner. It is not right to break that contract and Zbrushcentral shouldn’t be condoning that sort of thing. However, I understand that he has been working on one project for so long and needs to get his work out there. So while I don’t agree with his actions, I can understand his motivations.

That is my commentary with the knowledged the cookepuss had coming here. If marks had permission to post these images as he claims, then there is no problem, but he should have said so in the initial post. I think the general mentality I’ve seen here that game artist’s should be able to post whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want is misguided and not in the best interest of the industry.

I think if it had been made clear that posting this work was permitted by 3D Realms, this would have never been a problem, but that was not the case.

I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of STFU comments and :roll_eyes:, but this is just something I have to post after seeing all this ongoing drama.

Would you guys please stop fighting each other? It doesn’t matter how polite you are while you do it. Just stop it, it’s an already-settled issue. A misunderstanding between two people that lead to more stress than was necessary. Enough said, let’s stay on-topic regarding the imagery.

Very sad that they shut down, would’ve loved to see a new DN game. I agree with many here, that the Duke could’ve looked cooler with a darker design, but that’s criticism about the concept, not the execution. Great ZB work, especially love the girl :D:D:D

Hi, great work, I’m what you’d call a N double-o B as Zbrush goes, so don’t mind me asking how would one go about creating the brain, and what technique did you use?

I tried various methods, tutorials, but without a guide on the brain, I’m just lost in the sea of different techniques and never happy :slight_smile:

Thanks

great work!

i agree with you that it’d have been nice to make the duke more grizzled and war torn, but this one is still awesome and true to the genre

cool … i like the Octabrain and the girl :+1:

Chummi work Grtaeee superb details i love this :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:

Amazing work Marks. Love all of the characters and Duke just looks the way it should look like!
A shame that there’s still no idea if the game will be released or not and a shame that those few people made all that nonsense fuzz trying to ruin your beautiful post.
About the job loss, I know how it feels, I’m a freelancer and have to deal with this very oftenly…but keep up the spirit man, you’ll see that something will happen very soon.
Cheers :slight_smile:

Fab

That is some crazy good work you do. To tell you the truth it is kinda intimidating. =o. Actually everyones work on this forum is rather intimidating to me, mainly because i am just starting. Well you guys are making Duke nookem characters and demons, i am struggling with butterflies and normal human torso’s.

Either way, Although a talented artist like you can be intimidating, your art can also be a source of inspiration to new artists like me. You have inspired me.

Sorry to hear about Dukes demise. If the art was that good then the game looks like it would have rocked.

Good luck with everything and once again, Truly amazing work.

Meybe you find it intimidating because you are emo ;DDDD

Sorry couldnt stop myself after sying your name ;]

I know Zbrush has been hard for me to learn with my compulsion to throw feces everywhere…