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Disturbing little animation (and much discussion of GIFs)

Now you can be glad we don’t have user icons here. :wink:

[img]http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200306/user_image-1055787952auo.gif[/img]

I’m not done yet - he’s draft #2, and I’ll probably start him over from scratch when I get home.

Can’t tell you how cool it is that I can just do that. This guy would barely have been possible in any other program I’ve ever worked with, but here I feel no hesitation throwing out my work because it will be so easy to rebuild…

Hi Ctrl
Full Rotating :cool:
Pilou
Ps
What is your process ?

I started with the <strike>Tillehoff</strike> Lillehoff Sphere. :wink: Can’t find the forum thread which discusses that, probably because I’m misspelling the man’s name, but it seems to work better for me with this one than the standard Sphere3D. His script had three settings, and I went with the “very high density” one.

(let’s see how much terminology I butcher by trying to cite this from memory…)

Edit mode.

Mirror along Y axis.
(it will feel like X in a moment)

Radial Symmetry on, with a value of 7.

Sculpt an eye socket. You now have seven evenly spaced eye sockets.

Select a pair of eye sockets, and build a face around that, watching for overlap from the surrounding faces.

To keep the animated GIF small in file size, I only rotate about 51 degrees (360 / 7), and the loop creates an illusion of continuous motion where you’re really just seeing one segment over and over again.

To keep that possible, I had to drop the idea of breaking things up with different facial expressions. But I will eventually rig this character up for multi-facial animation. :cool:

Also, this is not a project for TextureMaster, though I guess you could clone from a background image or something. Hmm! I’ll have to play with this idea - it may prove more flexible than the vertex paint I was planning to use.

From here, I exported to 3D Studio, placed one eyeball, and used math to position and orient the other six that same distance from a central point.

And then, for some reason I thought rotating the actual model would be bad, so I set up a camera and some lights, and linked all of those to an invisible rotating thing. This may have been unnecessary, but I guess it gives me more flexibility with background objects later. That must have been what I was thinking.

Nothing too exciting going on with the materials at this point…

Again, no reason this couldn’t be done exclusively in ZBrush, though it may get pretty crazy with the multimarkers.

For an even more disturbing effect, have each eye track the camera for a portion of the rotation!

:slight_smile:

:+1:

That’s definitely planned for the next draft, though I was actually doing it to make him less disturbing. :stuck_out_tongue:

He be slack-jawed and zombie-eyed. I think any signs of life would make him more approachable.

But failing that, scaring the women and children is good too. :+1:

Hi Ctrl
When you have a gif Animation
Can you change the speed of it?(with the same number of images)
And how? (with Gif Animator)
Pilou

Fantastic, though you lost me with the GIFF part.

Do they all share a brain? :smiley:

very nice!

perhaps i am a bit twisted, but i don’t find it disturbing… :wink:

i had to press the ‘Download to ZBrush’ button for this thread to try some small animation for myself

again, nice work :+1:

oh, i was wondering if you meant the lillehoff sphere?

Ha! I told you I got his name wrong.

In my defense, I searched under that spelling too. Couldn’t find the thread, so I gave up and made a fool of myself. :rolleyes:

Sharing a brain:
That would explain the vacant expression. Dang - I wonder if we can’t pick out a good personality for him based on the physical layout of what his brain would be like if it follows the rest of his head.

Me, I’m more curious how he can swallow food with all seven tongues converging into the same throat. :eek:

Fortunately for him, I haven’t touched the inside of his mouth yet!

Controlling the speed of an animated GIF:
Yes, the format does allow this. I’m not sure how much control you get in Gif Animator, though. But, if you have access to Photoshop 6 or 7, I can’t recommend enough the GIF Animation tools they include (in Imageready).

Scary-go-Round up at the top of this thread? I selected every frame and as a group assigned them to be .05 seconds. That’s roughly 20 fps, and I’m looping 10 frames. But, you’re not calculating time so much as hitting play to see if it looks right.

Whatever. For what you’re asking, I’ve got a better example.

This was the first ZBrush work I ever showed anyone:

[img]http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200306/user_image-1055819193zvt.gif[/img]

Here, I decided how long each individual frame would last. The five second holds? Those are each one frame.

User icons present one heck of an optimizition challenge, so you have to play these games if you want to meet a site’s filesize limit and still have any impact. (these were for LiveJournal, so that’d be 40k)

Ctrl-Z…yer journal is a hoot!!! I can see I am going to be addicted to it. I woke up to move some clothes into the dryer and stopped by my computer afterwards to have a final smoke of the night and browsed your journal. Thirty minutes later and a fresh pack of smokes I am still there… :slight_smile: and I have to be up for work in three and a half hours. thnx :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Hi Ctrl
Thx for the explanation
But I have just Gif Animator, so if some one has the info (change the speed without change the number of images)thx by advance :slight_smile:
Ps your blue animation is also very nice :cool:
Pilou
Ps You say my “Livejournal” but where is your (nickname) on the linked signature where we arrived ?
(or it’s realy your own live journal?)
I have seen your icon Here :cool: have you made all ?
Is the Comics Journal are made by the members or it’s copy from comics books ?
As you see,I am not very up date for this sort of things :slight_smile:

Definently a great read and some quality info on some reading material!!..I think it great what your doing…thanks for sharing your amausing day to days :)…would make a nice little book :).

All the best

Kircho

Thanks!

To clear up some confusion…

<a href=http://wwww.livejournal.com>LiveJournal</a> is an enormous community which I had nothing to do with the creation of. (that would be a man named Brad Fitzpatrick, in case you’re wondering)

My username there is ‘self’ because I had this crazy idea of trying to be an introspective mirror. When I’d post comments in other journals, it was to be as though their subconscious mind was speaking up. This was, of course, as creepy as it is impossible. So, the details have become more about my own life over time.

I have left the account anonymous (despite recently linking there from places where my real name is). This allows me to speak more freely without worrying about any sort of random prejudice letting people tune out my arguments.

Anyway… There are free accounts and paid accounts, and I upgraded to a paid one when it was clear that this had become part of my life. And one of the benefits of paid membership is that they give you a shorter URL. So, http://www.livejournal.com/users/self becomes http://self.livejournal.com

Because of my username, that address looks like I own the place. It’s just a funny coincidence, nothing more.

User Icons…
I’m going to say “no” on this one. Not yet, anyway. Some of those are TV screen captures I made a few years ago. A few came from comic books - I scanned those, cleaned 'em up and if necessary colorized 'em, but it’s still not right to call those my work. My primary icon is a self portrait from MC Escher. Again, I colorized it, but this doesn’t give me the right to take credit for the brilliant work of an artist I’m no match for.

As a matter of pride, I’m (very slowly) replacing all of those with new ones of my own creation. :cool:

Hi Ctrl Z
I undertsand a little more :smiley:
It’s a pschyanlyse perpetual :slight_smile: but with a lot of spectators and commentators :slight_smile:
You have not answer of my little question about comics journal :slight_smile:
It’s original by the members or copy of comics books?
Pilou

You outraced me! I was busily adding this to the last post when you typed that. Guess I’ll move it to a new reply…

Comics
That’s not technically a journal. One of LiveJournal’s nicer features is that you can declare a list of people to be your friends, and it will collect their latest entries in one place for you to read. You can also group your friends into categories, and use these to filter what’s displayed. What you’re seeing is the result of such a filter.

But, where do they come from?

A few actually are LiveJournal members using the site to promote their work. But of those I know about, Shannon Wheeler’s “Too Much Coffee Man” is probably the only one that’s still posted regularly. (Which surprises me - the format is perfect for online comics. By letting fans post comments underneath each day’s entry, they become a part of the experience, and you can be sure they’ll read again later.)

The rest are online comics from other sites, which have made their work publically available as an RSS stream. Another LiveJournal feature packages RSS streams in a compatible format for your friends view. I’m not sure how that works, exactly, but there is some permission-granting involved, so I shouldn’t be able to collect these if they weren’t meant to be collected.

(It should also be noted that very few people even see that link due to the convenience of this friends list feature - if someone wants to read what I’m up to, they’ll usually do so without visitng my account directly. So, that comics page is mostly for my own reading…)

Hi Ctrl
Thx for all and sorry for cut of your writing :slight_smile:
Pilou
Ps I have glasses but your little police is a little police :cool:

Frenchy,

Is it <a href=http://www.ulead.com/ga/runme.htm>Ulead GIF Animator</a> that you’re using?

If so, the interface looks very similar. Towards the bottom of the screen, you should have individual thumbnails for each frame of animation, and at the bottom of each thumbnail is that frame’s duration. Right-click the thumbnail for some options to change it’s duration.

That’s version 5, anyway. They were kind enough to put the manual on their site for me to research that. :smiley:

Dang. This looks to be a very nice program also!

Hi Ctrl-Z
Yes !!! But Number 4 :slight_smile:
No It’s not an evident program !
Nothing is intuitiv !
Menu are dissimilar, bushy, confuse, but it’s nothing we must make with it :smiley:
A contrario Ulead Photo Impact is a very good prog, exellent interface, better than Photo_shop and you can make Internet sites with it A must :cool:
I shall see you advice :slight_smile: (but I doubt :rolleyes:
Pilou

Hi Ctrl-z
No I can’t for example just double speed of your first animation :frowning:
Something must be wrong somewhere in my prog :frowning:
I continue to find what !
Pilou