Creating Ornaments , what brushed do you use?

[piotrek255]

Hi

For few days i am struggling to create ornaments like this:

http://img3.etsystatic.com/006/0/5750098/il_fullxfull.375503771_kv0j.jpg

http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/6925637/il_fullxfull.344902878.jpg

But i cant get any good results… in the end it all looks like mud. Could someone give me any tips?

[beta_channel]

what is your current workflow?
can we see what you were getting?

[stonetat2]

David Lesperance has postet some mesh insert ornament brushes in his thread but I think he has modeled it in max.

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?67348-Some-Zbrush-and-Max-Work/page31&highlight=metalman