It looks as though DAZ plan to develop Bryce. The free offer is obviously to enlarge the user base. The blurb says that Bryce 6 will only be available as an upgrade to registered users of versions 5 and 5.5.
Itās interesting that they seem intent on that, given that Carrara covers much of the same ground (and version 6.0 of that is being beta-tested I believe).
Ok, I was wrong. I checked. It was not 5 1/4 inch FDās. Those were 8".
Lemo
PS:Bryce cannot export many of the things you model to other packagesā¦ It should be free 
by now.
Wow Marcus, I am and Will be very surprised if daz does in fact develop it more. Bryce has Always been a favorite of mine. I certainly hope you are correct. It helped lay the foundation for my learning of 3d and Iwas sad to se that Daz had purchased it as I am prejudiced against them and the ways they try and entice people to buy their products using various ploys. Maybe I shouldnt hold onto that prejudice. If they issue a Bryce 6 I will go out of my way to get it. Its a very powerful little tool especially because of its abilities at texture in both Procedural and outside capabilities. Also the volume lights that are able to be set up in Bryce are very cool. man I hope you are right.
Lemo I Thought you were kidding as was I when I said my Butt. LOL I thought you knew the truth of it but were just saying that to kid me hehe. You are very correct. There have been many objects such as castles and buildings I have created in Bryce that i wasnt able to export out for use in other programs. The only objects generated in Bryce that are exportable are lattices and terrains. Objects imported into Bryce can be exported back out also. But that doesnt help very much when you build using Bryce primitives. A great example of objects built in bryce would be the aforementioned bryce master Meski with the barn I used in http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthreaā¦1726#post201726 You havent seen the insides yet.
Meanwhile like others I will continue to use Vue Infinite but dont expect me to say that I Wont be happy if they do indeed upgrade to a 6. I hope it matches its predecessors 2, 3, 4 and yes 5 in incremental quality. Its one of the old tools that can still be used over and over again with a respected history. And I kid you not. It does things Vue cant do as well, even now 
well I downloaded bryce but it will take me some time to learn it - I was not able to even quit it :o :o Had to press alt+f4
Take your mouse and direct it toward the upper right hand
top part of the screen.
Hidden menu(s) will appear.
Took me three days to find this out!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks
thnx for the tipā¦lolā¦glad to see I have not been the only alt F4 person out thereā¦
ron
Vue versus Bryce - this will come up (if it is not already).
So:
Bryce has its very own way of rendering things. Not the speed or any other detail, but Bryce does some very clean, crisp and ācoldā renders, all of its own. Ok, you can try and change that, but I think this - unwanted? - feature can be used in addition to Vue.
Because Vue does the opposite: without much adjustments from the user, Vue renders more moody scenes, soft and warm lights.
So from this point of view it is certainly āniceā to have both of them around.
Ok, Bryce has got no eco system, and some of the best light simulations are only to be found in Vue right now. This might change with Bryce 6.
What both proggies are bringing along: each has a high class material editor. Both of them capable enough to maybe sell them as standalones.
The area where Bryce is really shining: the connection to DAZStudio is the best way to get anything from Poser or DAZ right into any scene by the flip of a switch! Nothing has to be altered/adjusted (importing or loading Posettes into Vue can be real cumbersome, just to get the materials looking right afterwards).
There is more, but in the end I would really give Bryce a try - using both - Vue and/or Bryce - is not against the law, after all.
ā¦where are the numerous pages of the famous āForum Bryce Galleryā created by Bruce MacLeod ?
Except on a CD?
I have imagination this night for use the WaybackMachine
(clic on the archives)
For nostalgic the french creator of Bryce Eric Wenger Gallery Old but discoverer :rolleyes:
arghhh
I feel old when all the 3d apps I bought into before they were version1.0 start to be given away for free.
I have to say this particular deal pisses me off. I was told that in order to upgrade to 5.5 I would have to also buy all this other bs daz crap I didnāt want. Iāve owned the program since day 1 and I have to buy crap I donāt want in order to upgradeā¦sorry.
the fact that they are now giving it away says to meā¦that alot of other folks musta felt the same way.
correct me if I read it wrong but it seemed to me that what i read was that legacy owners and 5.5 upgrade owners were NOT entitled to an upgrade price to 6.0ā¦only downloaders of this free version were.
this tells me also thatā¦i didnāt lose anything by not upgradingā¦and it musta been so bad that they need to rewrite it from 5.0 up.
what a scam. they have alot of work to do to bring it to this centuryā¦however having said thatā¦it is a pretty good program for a beginner to cut their teeth on. and for freeā¦a pretty good renderer once ya figure it out.
god i feel old.
ā¦ reading your post I checked my papers, and: youāre right, āoldā is a mild description of what is said there:)!
Got Bryce from day 1, felt bad seeing Corel misusing it, felt glad seeing DAZ getting it.
Now for the upgrade to version 6: I do not know about you, but greed made me member at DAZ (all branches: platinum, artzone), and there is a good chance that customers will get āspecial dealsā concerning these memberships.
Asked at DAZ, might be an answer soon.
For me, well: Iāll get Bryce6. Maybe just because of nostalgic feelings, still got the disks from wayyyyy back when (all things had been better, Summers warmer ā¦ you know this stuff;)).
Iām new to this lark, but I get the impression DAZ has a bad name/reputation?
Gawd I know what you mean Aminuts. It does make me feel old also. I still havent got 5.5 because of the Daz Ploy. I was thinking of getting Bryce 6 IF they upgrade but they are going to have make a lot of improvements to the program. As I mentioned before Bryce gave me an avenue to learn basic 3d. So like Zaph I feel nostalgic about it and I Still use Bryce 5 a lot simply because I like its illustrative renders and texture module and also for the fact that I know Bryce like the back of my hand. I see a lot of greed at Daz concerning this issue and yah I have been a registered user since Bryce 3. They have a Lot of work as you said to bring it into this century. But unless they change some of their Greed oriented policy I wont be tagging along with them :evil:
But for people who have no other means at this time, to quote Bicc. Free is Free.
Meanwhile I will go back and play with Vue Infinite. I see true dedication with them not greed or ploys to join this club or that. Besides. I have Zbrush and Silo. Why buy their models when I can make my own now?
Angel,
The problem with Daz is the path they took when they broke up their association with Poser. This is a long sordid story dating back to the late 90s and having its roots in the breakup of the Poser community itself during that time period. There have been a lot of flames over the years. I thought the flames were out but there is a lot of resentment still smoldering. :td:
This is the first time I have seen Daz offer anything that didnt require you to āJoin the Clubā Dont worry about that. Its still a nice little program and all you have to do is get it at Cnet.
They have a lot to prove to me and others though and trust me, it will be a hard sell.
Thanks, Tartan, I new there had to be some reason for the slightly hostile attitude.
Bryce seems solid enough though, and for free, nobody can complain! The DAZ site seems to be just infinite addons, like virtual action figures and accessories.
Itās all a little cheesy looking to me, maybe Iām missing something!? :lol:
Iāve seen no āhostile attitudeā around here.
It is all about the fact that it took years to see Bryce developed again.
No reason to complain about DAZ doing this. There is a huge user base over there. A friendly and helpful one.
And about the Poser/DAZ-issue - DAZ keeps contact to the user base of both, Poser and DAZ custumers.
Poser did not think of anything like it. Only now, after several changes of the management they try to mimic DAZ - badly done and too late anyway.
@aminuts: there will be an upgrade from 5.5 to 6.0, and it will be the ācheapestā one, according to Darlisa at DAZ.
Must confess, am a DAZ member.
Whether you belong or subscribe to places like this is
an individual choice ( sometimes a companies)
Would like however to point out some things in their favor.
I usually only see criticism here and would like to try and balance
it with what I have experienced.
Their technical support is some of the best I have ever seen. Some of their products sell for about 1.99. I have had a few questions and called their technical support line and gotten immediate help from very friendly people .
I compare this to the Poser Companyās Content Paradise where customer support is basically a joke ,with no one to call and no timely responses to email problems.
While I was at Siggraph, I purchased a program ( download) from the Poser
people (not Poser 6, a plugin). I purchased a download. Basically they gave
you an address and a serial number, you went online and downloaded it.
After I arrive home, it took about 5 days and an exchange of about 10 emails and threats to stop the credit card purchase, to solve the matter.
Both of these companies were represented at Siggraph and you could see the differences there also.
Stangely enough their booths were very close to one another.
With the DAZ people I felt, in talking with them, that they were old friends.
They were extremely helpful and made great suggestions.
Poser, on the other hand, were about selling the product and did not want
to recognize the existence of any other company.
Another small thing in their favor.
While I am not calling them a benevolent institution, nor am I trying
to sell the idea of using them to anyone,I would feel extremely guilty about being silent about a company that has shown that they care about their customers and are offering some great productsā¦if you use them.
ā¦ exactly my thoughts! A bit briefly put but yes: RIGHT!
I still agree with Aminuts on this but you have to remember I was right in the thick of things and i remember the āpersonā who actually made the proposition to Daz to make a program that Copies poser in the first place. That person was shafted by Daz. The fact that the person in question also shafted a lot of other people including Me before he went down is almost poetic justice but still doesnt speak well of the company at the time. I will try and dispell my prejudices if and Only if Bryce 6 supports older Registered users (ie 3 and 4 also) from pre Daz acquisition and if Bryce 6 is Firmly brought into the century. Its a waiting game for me now and at the moment Vue infinite is a superior program. I still love Bryce and hope they really do as they should. If they do i will be glad to support bryce 6 and Then i will lighten up. :idea: i remember why I left for Zbrush now. To get away from that kind of crap. sigh 
Totally agree with opinion Vue is superiorl
I am a Vue hdri groupie.