great works As Always Des,love to see more of your output every time
Thanks carliman. Hey Mo, thanks guys~
Ok… quick post. Customer’s on my ass to finish stuff every day late is $$$ in this industry. Plus I feel like the community forum doesn’t update very often so it makes it look like I keep bumping my own thread. not good etiquette. Maybe I’ll post once every 2 weeks then.
Also… I feel I need to clarify pricing. We’re running about double the cost as we were when we first started. That promotional price was too crazy to keep running like that (one person company basically). Right now 8 inchers run avg around $500-650+ (including base and stuff) 12 inchers run avg $700-1200+ (depending on detail, cape, accessories, and base) the bigger ones more than that. Sry… I’m working to bring the price back down but having to feed yourself cup ramen is different from having to feed multiple dozens of employees. Honestly I don’t run a sweatshop tho. I know I joke about it because it seems funny to poke fun at yourself. But we run the company like family and I’m the only one that actually sleeps on the floor at the office =P. I know some of u guys have been making world domination plans based on our old pricing… the thing I recommend is you make some mass produced copies 1…2…10…100… 1000… etc to bring down the per copy cost of the thing. Do a groupon with your friends or sell some~ For small runs, we do worldwide distribution, customer service, replacements everything for u if u need it (hence the many employees to keep alive). Anyway… I’m here to help you guys out… just email me before u start/finish ur artwork and we can brainstorm together. That way there’s no surprises.
indie print 
zombie dog chow 6 incher by spacemonkey… CG Artist Tim Appleby. check out his website if u get the chance. he’s got a lot of really awesome sculpts! i dunno if spacemonkey ever finished painting this one.
industry print shaman from dust by ZBC super vet Cedric Seaut (ced66) ubisoft
ubisoft was kinda mad at me because we charged them super super super cheap the first time around (was like… hey… wow this is a cool piece… lets see how badass it looks if we make it into a real statue… its like 12 inch total height bending down so 1/5th or 1/4th scale). Then a year or two later they wanted me to make it again and i had to quote double the original cost. yeah… they were kinda pissed. Sorry Ubi! its my bad =( not trying to rip you off or anything… (plz see above). I really love this piece that cedric made… man… so dynamic. pain in the ass to ship internationally overnight fedex w/o breaking tho… but it shipped no breaks… thankfully.
super nice outputs you did…I am looking forward to print out my sculpts in the near future
keep up the great work!!
Hi Desmoda!
These are all really looking so cool! Hopefully I’ll get more than one of my sculpts done with you and sell them hehe!
hey, just like to say real good job!! everything look great!
im an industrial model maker and we have an SLA machine and an objet, just wondered what machine are you useing to print these? very good definition!
keep it up.
thanks guys (kupo, davidness)! really fortunate to work with u guys. you guys make the pretty digital art. nowadays… im just an administrator at best. sigh… its the only way to get stuff out the door. sad panda.
thanks for getting my name right btw! hehe. ive seen some pretty weird mess ups. Desmonda, desmond, desmomo, deathmoda, desdamoda, desmopedia. its Des or Desmoda. 
hi luka~ are u affiliated with industria mechanika/fichtenfoo in any way? haha… trying to pin down which luka u are 
. at this point we’re running almost one of everything. its not really the machine~ its the post work you have to do to make the figures production-ready. hehe… as a model maker u probably know alllll about this and more. we who are about to die… salute you! brothers in arms! 
ok quicky… my two week egg timer is up~ at least now it doesn’t look like i sticky my own thread. sry!
indie print engineer, welding girl man… who was the artist on this one… Jose Alva da Silva (ZBC: Zeoyn… killer sketchbook somewhere on here) for Bob Steiner & I think being picked up by Industrial Mechanika~ On sale soon!
Hm… its strange that i can remember all of your guys names and aliases and artwork. If u multiplex it… it really numbers up in the thousands. i have no life =/ did 2 versions… a 1/10th scale 18cm and a 1/35 scale 54mm. Ehh… generally I dont enjoy doing miniatures. Even though we can… just too busy to mess around with miniatures at the moment so its not something we take on unless I know u~
1/10th scale - 18cm
a sexy sweet paintup they did (much better than the paintup we did… hehe… so i wont attach ours). btw… this is a good point. if u want a certain look to the paint… you have to communicate this with concept art, pictures, etc. Otherwise I’m not physically close enough to you to do Vulcan Mind Meld.
54mm scale miniature. tiny tiny. see the dust on the top of my display base and the can of soup next to it? ugh tiny. i dont like doing tiny stuff. my eyes are bad~
industry print thor, cap & irons tag team awesomeness of one of my fav trad sculptors Erick Sosa (zkulptor on ZBC) & Alex Pereira (he did those ARH pieces a few posts back) for Kotobukiya
again… very lucky to work with Erick & Alex… they are both sooo good. Erick is learning to ZBrush~ It’s interesting seeing traditional guys make the move to ZBrush. I try to help the best I can but I’m not exactly a sculptor myself so not much I can do. Painted by Erick and team. Pics from SDCC. erick did a lot of postwork on these so if u have props to give… give it to him (and Alex! haha… lotsa luv man).
Hehe… i love the color choices on thor the most. the yellow boots are so drool worthy.
If i wore yellow shoes around… people would call me a FOB or Lady Gaga. Thor can pull it off tho. He doesn’t need a boat. He can fly with hammer!
Happy Holidays guys! Yup… it was tough but made it thru another holiday season here at Santa’s workshop X-D.
Looking forward to seeing more of your guys’ great art in 2012! I guess this is the late update of 2011. Have some cool stuff to show you guys in 2012
Indie work CGHub Frakenstein (11.5inch 1/8th scale) Concept Art by Adrian Smith ZBrush Sculpting by Rishi Nandlaskar Being retailed as a kit in 2012 by Industrial Mechanika
industry Popocultureshock Judge Dredd (huge 1/4th scale) Zbrush Sculpting by Alterton
Hope you have had a chance to enjoy at least a small break over the Xmas period. I successfully assembled the “Problem job” you helped me with.
The two figures you posted look great. Next year I will talk to you about printing some of the 18 inch figures I have.
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So I was wondering about the busts and other statues that I see at comic shops. Are they all prints, or do they create one print and then use that to create a cast? Also, I was wondering if you guys do toy lines and how that works exactly. I’m very curious about what the process is to start a toy line, or even multiple runs on a statue or bust. Your thread has been very interesting, and I can’t wait to see more of your work. Keep up the great job!!!
You are a necromancer man. Raising the dead. 
Good to be back.
Well… back when we started this… what is it… 3-4 years ago now? I’d say not very many of the retail figures you saw in the shop were digital and 3d printed. I’d say less than 5% back then. Of the digital things you’d mostly saw robotic stuff (gundam) or a few of those designer Vinyl models that might have been made on CNC. Or stuff from Gentle Giant (they were really pushing the envelope back then and still are! ). Just naming a few. I know Adam and Joe and everyone did a lot of pioneering work with 3d printing in sculpture and toys as it relates to Zbrush.
And as zbrush got better and better, I’d say roughly 15% of the statue/toy retail products you see now are digitally made and 3d printed. With the trend fast moving towards more and more digital + 3d print. I’m guessing it’ll hit 40% in the next 2-5 years. It’s a little scary for the traditional guys because it means they have to learn new things, but its also exciting all the possibilities that ZBrush and digital sculpting opens up. The cool thing about digital sculpting and 3d printing is that it really lowers the barrier to entry for producers. It’s not just the big guys putting stuff out now, but hundreds of smaller producers who all have new ideas and new visions. It’s kinda cool. That’s what innovation and technology does in this new age, it brings producers and consumers closer together. The super consumers themselves eventually becomes producers. I always use as an example how those street girls in Shibuya are super consumers of fashion… but they’re also producers in the sense they produce a look and set the new trend. Sites like kickstarter are pushing this new model of business forward even faster. It’s pretty cool… circle of life! haha…
Ok… back to your question. Mm… some of those in the shop are 3d printed, but only the first master copy. The rest are all moulded and cast in resin. No one would sell the 3d print in retail. Because the thing is worth it’s weight in gold haha. You might see a painted 3d print in a museum or gallery though. Generally you make the 3d print, then cast copies from the 3d print to mock up the Paint Master (colored prototype). Then you give the thumbs up and more copies are made from the 3d print and painted as part of the limited/mass production. Although sometimes we are commissioned to do one-off painted 3d prints for a collector or movie studio. I generally don’t recommend painting the 3d print because it closes a lot of doors for copies later. You’ll likely mess up the paint job if you try to mould over it later.
Yah we do statue lines and toy lines (we don’t say yes to everything tho, we’re a lil’ picky). Mm… it really depends on what you want to do and what vision and skills you have. If you’re a 3d artist… then typically the concepting and sculpting phase is easy to get done without outside help (unless it involved articulation). The rest is the “business stuff.” Can you move/sell X amount of product? How much is the 3d print, production, shipping going to cost you? How much will you have to sell the final product for? Who’s going to buy it and how you plan on retailing? For smaller productions, Ownage does the worldwide individual shipping and customer service to your buyers for you. But for larger amounts, you’ll have to think about large-scale distribution. Whether to go through a channel distributor like Sideshow, Diamond, PBM, DKE. Or through a distribution service like Shipwire, Amazon Fulfillments, and stuff like that. Or maybe just set up sales at your local comic shop. Sometimes thats all it takes X-D. Kinda like how Newbury Comics started small in the UK 20 years ago. Nowadays, more and more people get their stuff presold thru Kickstarter. This also helps to pay for the actual production~ You see what Josh Harker did with his Crania Anatomica thingee? $70-80k in sales, although that was entirely 3d printed and produced by Shapeways… not us. Feel free to email us at [email protected] if you need consulting. Happy to chat with anyone. Haha, I should really update the website so you guys can help yourselves. But soo busy… X-D. It’s turned into this damned if we do, damned if we don’t kinda thing. :evil: haha… its gonna get updated. just want the update to be a functional update, not a marketing one. which means i have to do a lot of it. i know… excuses!!!
Ok… I guess I have to post a pic or something before running away. Since this post is about busts… here’s a cool bust!
Indie Print Blizzard Artist Dominic Qwek Cornelius Alien Bust He’ll be selling a kit version of this soon… for those interested you should hit him up about it (http://www.dominicqwek.com/)! Support your fellow 3d artists!
Feel like I owe it to you guys to keep posting stuff. Sry people who are waiting on your stuff!
Anyhow… being that it’s monday and I got permission from Aaron to share this with you guys. Here’s a small production that we finished a couple weeks back for The Aaron Sims Company. Thanks also to Jaime from Pixo!
Industry RL7 Archetype Robot The Aaron Sims Company Zbrushed by PSTCHOART (Tsvetomir Georgiev?)
Also shipped some casts for Dominic… grab them now from him while you can (previous post). not ur run of the mill smooth-on resins
Insane New works Des,the last Mech Print is Crazy…
i have been lurking reading this post for awhile now …close to a year, finally decided to post…
anyway i am looking to get a 3dprint for a toy concept i have done…so basically
the reason for this post is to find talented zbrush artist i can commission to develop
my idea into a zbrush model…so i can get ownage to make a 3dprint of it…so i can shop my
idea for feasibilty…desmoda if you able to help give a shout as well but i will definately contact
you once i get my zbrush model done.
if you interested please pm
i have just joined the forum so as to get this idea of the ground
No worries. Man… I can’t even count on 2 dozen hands how many great people and artists are in this community. I’m sure someone will jump to your aid. It’s just nuts. As a commissioner, I can say that if you have something really really specific you want to get made, that is good (but it helps to have concept art for sculptor to follow). If you leave the project open ended… its also very good, lets the sculptor show his talent and not get wrapped up in revisions. The worst is probably being picky, but not really knowing what you want. Haha. It’s hard to help then because its like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Here’s another cool piece done by Dominic Qwek~ I’ll try to show more industry work later. I just dont like posting that kinda work when we are so backlogged. People want me to finish stuff!
So I’ve been planning on doing a toy line one day for a book I wanna do one day, but I’m not sure what route I should take. If I only wanted to do small runs of action figures or action figure sized statues who would you go about starting? I want to make these statues affordable to everyone so if I could keep the price point as low as possible that would be great. I’m really not sure where I should go after the 3d model is created, so I figure I ask an expert in this field. All the info you have related to his would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much!
Hey Dennis, we can do the low run manufacturing for you… just tell us how many u want, painted or unpainted, etc.
As for low run numbers. Statues tend to sell based on size and intricacy. There tends to be a different market price for busts, statues, anime figures, plastic action figures, etc. Another big factor is how many you plan on selling in total. If you market something as “only 3 will ever be made”… then you can fetch a much higher price for them. But if you plan to keep producing them over time (we call this open edition)… then people expect you to charge a fair market price based on size, quality, desirability and rarity.
I think, one bad thing to do is having the mindset that you must make money on every piece right from the get-go. Development costs for a real life product are high… concept art, 3d sculpting, 3d printing, paint design, production, packaging, etc. If you go about planning on making it big or quitting your job on selling 10 copies, lol… its not impossible, although it would be really hard. I think if you have a book/comic/video game. The sales from statues are much less than 1% of your total income. But the statues are really a fan-base/brand multiplier. It’s something that your diehard fans will want to get a hold of… to have something physical, possibly tasteful to declare their love for your work. And that in itself, while it may not be pure hard cash, is a type of glue that holds your universe together… and is probably worth much more than 1%. So its a factor you have to take into account when setting retail prices and estimating the lifespan of the product line.
And yeah, it costs less to make more, costs more to make less. Assembly line -> Affordable. Custom oneoffs -> Expensive. It’s a fact of life
Hey Desmoda, thanks so much for the quick response! That’s very useful information! That definitely helps me figure out exactly how I wanna go about making these figures. Do you have a email address where I can speak with you directly? I would love to give you more details and see what you suggest. Thanks again for the help!
lol, yah… email us at [email protected]. I tend to answer all emails anyway, just prefer not to give my non-screened email out on a public forum.
Thanks for your generous offer.
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I’m just wondering are you still printing?
If so, what are the costs?
If not, where else can I get something printed?