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Tired of the "wow" , "amazing" comments on mediocre work...

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#1

Does anybody else get irritated by the constant false praise going on in the forums (not just here)?

Over and over I see a hundred replies to a mediocre piece of artwork. They praise it and give little to no real feedback. Often saying things like WOW and AMAZING when niether of these is accurate. Although it is relative, mediocre art is mediocre art.

While encouragement and positive energy can be good, in this case it really is just promoting medicoraty.

The main reason for this post is to decide wether I should continue to offer opinions and constructive criticism on pieces, or just give up. What do you think?

#2

almost all the comments for the other members are like critics and recomendations for the “rookie” posts (almost all the current members), only the novices make good comments for the novices posts…you must now it!. :lol: :lol: :lol:

apologize my poor English :smiley:

#3

definitely keep offering criticism and opinions. As a newer artist myself, I dont want people to tell me my art is amazing and perfect (although it makes me feel good) I would much rather be told what is wrong and how I can improve it, otherwise I’ll never become a better artist. So keep up the criticism!

#4

Amazing comment. :wink:

#5

Amazing!

#6

Do what you want to do, and let others do what they want to do.

Don’t try to be judge and jury - neither of someone’s work, nor of the validity, sincerity or suitability of their comments.

Opinions are simply opinions - give them, or don’t. Listen to them, or don’t.
Nothing to make a big deal about.

#7

I love irony.

#8

My opinion: Honest and sometimes hard critics are much better as false praise and the best critics are these you don´t want to hear.

#9

I love chocolate.

#10

I guess the reason mediocre art is being praised is that there are
a lot of zbrushers that couldnt do better.
So they take these kind of works as perfect because its maybe something
they could achieve.
Its not to hard to spot the talented people that take sculpting serious and offer those constructive
critisism.

#11

I know I have gotten some sharp feedback in the past, and yes it isnt something you want to hear, but damn it really makes you a better artist!

#12

I agree with DiscoStu and facenna,
I love chocolate too…

and…

Alot is WIP and getting a feel for where you are at before going all the way.
Maybe there should be a WIP and a Complete section to the forums?

Or a blog like area to show your stuff and another to directly seek crits?

-d

#13

Speaking as a relative beginner, with your attitude, perhaps
silence is best.

#14

I am confused by your comment, can you explain it?

#15

codeman:“While encouragement and positive energy can be good, in this case it really is just promoting medicoraty.
I know I have gotten some sharp feedback in the past, and yes it isnt something you want to hear, but damn it really makes you a better artist!”

um, if everyone critiques something, or a piece gets lots of critique, how is that not moving towards mediocrity and that status quo (“hey i made a troll, hey i made the hulk/wolverine, etc”).
it is art, the rules are only suggestions, academia has screwed all this up. if every artist did what their peers suggested all art would look the same. is mideval art bad because they didn’t follow the laws of perspective? is picasso bad because he drew eyes on one side of the head, would you tell him thats wrong?
shouldn’t it be about promoting creativty and the outlet of expression, for that is what makes us all artists. art, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, should we cater to our audience, and if so, should that be other artists, or the common civilian, because there is a big difference in perception.

also, i too love chocolate.
and i would love to see a subforum just for sketcbook threads and once again allow the main forum to be about individual pieces.

in b4 tl/dr, as facenna said, its all just an opinion anyway.

#16

Basicly modern society is created by bunch of sissys that cannot take criticism, get offended by ANYTHING and crying for mama every bloody time. People dont want to hear anymore truth - they get OFFENDED by truth. They want tap in the back, huggie and kiss in forehead with sweet “youre doing good, honey! Keep up good work sweetie”. All this BS is seen more in multiracial societies where everyone are in constant fear of offending someone else - a black guy, Jew, gey whatever. Keep on posting real deal man.

#17

I love irony too, especially when it’s spelled “medicoraty”…:wink:

#18

I have said this before in these forums - to no avail.

The problem is that ZBCentral has in its members an unsurpassed wealth of experience and skill, it’s just almost impossible to get any feedback/advice from anyone.

Loads of the members are fantastic artists, and I love looking at there work. However, some of the members are newbies, hobbiests, 3D guys rather than artists. What this place is sadly lacking is a place that is dedicated to either newbies or WIPs.

Just my opinion. Now where’s 3.5 :wink:

#19

The main reason for this post is to decide wether I should continue to offer opinions and constructive criticism on pieces, or just give up. What do you think?

You should not, silence is best.

whether…just mentioning

#20

dude i read some of your past posts…and you have done the very thing that you are talking about right now.

In my opinion, it would be best for ones own personal energy, to not judge other peoples opinions, especially if they are encouraging ones.

I myself have commented on other peoples “mediocre” work simply to encourage them to keep working on it. That is how you get better. Not simply by crits and feedback, but by passion and pursuit.

also “mediocre” is a relative term. what you think is mediocre could be very inspirational to others.

it reminds me of a wolverine vs hulk piece that i saw on these forums a while back. The artist was obviously new to zbrush, and the work wasnt the best. but what i saw was potential, and passion. this guy created an entire scene in zbrush, and that is to be commended. even if its not rick baker quality.

as well as the guy who set the goal of 4 characters in 2 weeks. he set a goal and completed it…it wasnt the best, but he now can move on to the next project with more experience, that gets my support any time.

so to you…i suppose…do what you feel like :slight_smile: