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thoughts I consider important

a good thing that thread of evil is deleted :smiley:
I feel obliged to supply an answer to the people who were left without one from the previous thread.

my friend stonecutter, I expect yours was a humorous reply, so I’m not taking it seriously.

however, you may consider this; you wouldn’t prefer a real girl being chained into slavery as a book cover to a girl who doesn’t look real, would you? hardly I believe.
I think that, in your judicious effort to advocate in favour of women, you are hardly being fair, as most girls will acknowledge before you do, that this is just a painting. and maybe not even a good one as it seems.
besides, why would my mother dislike being in bondage with my father, or certainly, vice-versa? furthermore, why would I object to, or try to hinder my parents’ doing what they bloody well like in their private bedroom? (same applies to sister, girlfriend, wife, in case anyone argues they are any different)

it’s a sexual behaviour. are we to be afraid of divergent social behaviours? is sex only for bearing children? this is one attitude that scares me.

and besides, damn! isn’t all the time I consumed over this pic, as every other pic I’ve ever dared posting, isn’t all the pain, the spiritual birth (I avoid cliches, but there you are) emotional content?

I’m beginning to understand what De Sade had to go through, and don’t care to be a martyr, so this topic is to be dropped.

Aurick, I inquestionably applaud your tact, and really want to thank you, these tips came out of the blue! I don’t think I’ll post the final image, contrary to your encouragement, but if I ever pick up art as a profession, then you’ll officially have qualified as my mentor.

Nikko, don’t thank me, it really is a wonderful statuette. also, the little bugger is so thought-provoking. :smiley:

I only post these important to me thoughts, because this is an art forum, and artists should be able of reasoning.

see you on another thread,

Christos.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> I still thinking artist is no surprise, don’t try to ruin that <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually it’s not deleted, it’s over in the community thread.

godsdammit :smiley: thanx Kathy.

Thanks for your clarification Chris, althoughI think you should have opened this in the Community Forum.
A point - I DON’T believe sex is only for bearing children. As I’ve said, I was 20 years old in 1967, and believe me when I tell you that what we were doing had nothing to do with bearing children.
As far as what your parents do or do not do in their bedroom, or anyone else for that matter, I agree with you 1000%…it’s nobody elses business.
I’m sorry if you regard my view that chaining someone to a wall by their neck naked is not victimization, I’ll only say please don’t bother inviting me to any of your parties… :rolleyes:

topic dropped.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> a thinking artist is no surprise <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Chris

I know you have dropped this but Just thought I would throw my 2 cents for what it is worth :slight_smile: I trust you know that I regard you in high esteem as an artist and a smart feller but this is my thinking. In regard to you statement of inferring the depiction of your image to being a normal and healthy activity between consenting adults, I agree. It can be an incredible way to show trust in your partner. But the word of warning goes here: To some people this act goes way beyond that (sic) whether it be control, power or the use of pain that has somehow gotten short circuited in thier brains to pleasure. This image looked at by different people can mean totally different things, from criminal to sensual. If it was me, given a job to do I would certainly at the very least want to know what the book was about, or even better read it and know what kind of audience this book publisher was aiming for before I would put my name to the book cover. Heh, somehow I can’t picture that poor girl as being my Mom :slight_smile:

thanx, Digits, this is downright flattery! lol. seriously, very thorough approach.
I know the book is a fantasy S/M anthology. it is no worse than Anne Rice (and I should know, cause I’ve read Anne Rice in my time :D) in addition to being downright funny at times.

I also know, that the people who read this aren’t of your aesthetic caliber, and will certainly not use the book as an insight in divergent sexual behaviour. I’m not here to defend erotic stories, Marquee De Sade has done an gem of a job of it and was executed.
I think they are simply amusing, and at Stonecutter’s age, even helpful (am I not right, Michael?) , if my pathopsychiatry manual is correct (it’d better be, I’m taking the examination in 2 months’ time, and wouldn’t like scientific facts to change radically in the meantime)

could I drop the subject now? I know you are well-meaning, but since what I say is so provoking, maybe all of us should just ignore me? =D

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Thanks Digits…I don’t want Chris thinking I’m being critical of his skill, or even intentions. You cleared up some points. :slight_smile:
To Chris I would say, (my opinion only), I’ve read most of De Sade, and I don’t know whether a comparison with him is a mantle I would want to assume…I didn’t see him as a mentor, but as a troubled individual who had the difficulty seperating pleasure, pain, and sexuality Digits referred to, with tragic results for innocent people around him. I would also agree with Digits, that I would have read the book, or at least found out what I could about the content before joining myself to the project…‘Thinking Artist’…remember, Chris?
I’m sorry if you felt this was a personal attack on your art or psychosexual belief systems…it wasn’t.
I merely felt bad that a positive forum might be lessened in its welcoming and positive feel…I couldn’t help thinking of Jola, the gentle soul, and what that image represented to her and others. I’m a man of the world, Chris…I know what goes on out there, and to each his own…
(Sorry Chris, but I’d already posted this, before I saw your addition).