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Quick_sculpt second try: Subject Dunkleosteus

This is my second try, i just need as much help as possible to get a better quality!!! So do not be shy and please make a lot of constructive critics!!! ^^
Tnx a lot for any help i’ll receive!!!

This is the final result.

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Division.

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Wow, looking good! Interesting color choice.
no crit, but maybe look into adding Depth Map or Fog, Depth of field etc.

Ups… you right!!! i forgot about df :smiley:

Tnx:+1:

Hello! I’m new too! Do you have Skype or Steam? maybe we could help each other out? ^^

edit: although I’m nowhere near your level yet

@Zeriel

Yes i have both! ^^ and yes i like to share information!!! ^^

Contact me on facebook, Ivano Borghi, we’ll share there!!! i’m the one with the white rabbit!

How did you do the underwater scene? is amazing :open_mouth:
and is it my imagination or the fins are a little transparent?

yep, post production… fast and not really accurated actually… for the water effect… and yes the fins are a little transparent.
About transparency you can just check on youtube for some tutorial :smiley: sss2 for 3dsmax and maya, i’m guessing

HI
Its my experience as a former suba diver, observing fish in their natural habitat that :

The larger the fish, the more plain or draby the coloration…
Conversly, notice that the smaller fish have that highest colorations patterns of all sorts…

Therefore your primitive fish drawn here , I think, should be more uniform in color with few patterns…
( just look at Latimeria for example)
The difference in coloration between the head and the body is too strong here…

As a predator this fish could not “advertise” its presence while hunting, therefore light color such as white
should be avoided.

The “impressiveness” of this fish, I think, should be in its shear bulk and strong head plates rather than its coloration…

Also, I think that the teeth should be textured a little more ( striations…)

As for scale, maybe several other smaller “less significant” fish should be added to the scene.
Hope this helps.

Impressive observation, thank you so much for everything you said.

It seems that you have a deep knowledge about animals… i’m gonna ask you a kind favour… could you pick one of my images and modify it in the correct way? (easy and fast do not invest to much time)
Just two drops of colors to let me clearly understand what you were talking about! ^^

tnx anyway! ^^

Hi,

First lets make sure you understand that I’m no authority on drawing fossil fish.

I have no training as an artist but, like most people, I know want I want see in an image.
I have tried in the past to draw Paleozoic fish and ,I think, failed miserably.
The piece of software I was using at the time was Maya and it was and still is the pits when it comes to modeling.
So I quit after a few trials. ( see images Eustenopteron.jpg and Bothriolepiis2.jpg below )

A few years later ( i.e. now ) I decided to redo Eustenopteron in ZBrush ( See Eust02.jpg ), but I find it difficult to get motivated,
having no training to do this and I find its a lot of work. Now I’d rather have fun at working a new method I found
with displacements in ZBrush ( see https://www.flickr.com/photos/35898193@N03/ ).

Also it would be next to impossible to rework one of your images to give you pointers.

One of the things that I noticed at the onset was that I only have ONE image to show off my fish, so how is it
that I’m going to pose this guy to show off all of its characteristics?
The answer : draw it at least twice ( or more ) in the same image with different poses. That way you get to
see it from " all angles".

Pointers :

  • Bend your fish as much as possible to give it a feel of Motion
  • The head and body should have closely related colors/textures ( White and orange are not natural colors in large predatory fish )
    ( see Dunk.jpg )
  • Avoid SSS and transparency in fins. ( think of sharks )
  • Dunkleosteus was a large and a DANGEROUS predatory fish…that’s got to show in your image ( give it a snarl! ).
  • This fish is a Placoderm…show off its head plates as much as possible ( also adds to the fierceness of this fish )
  • Don’t let the background “outweight” the fish ( howerver nice )…bring the fish closer to the front, its more personnal this way…

I think you have quite an opportunity to show this magnificent animal in all of its glory now that we have ZBrush.
Hope my guidelines will help…

Attachments

Eust02.jpg

Eustenopteron.jpg

Bothriolepis2.jpg

Dunk.jpg