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Need Help Urgently! Building new workstation.

Hi dudes, need all your professional advice for my new workstation. I’m try to build a workstation by tomorrow, this workstation will be running Photoshop, Zbrush, Mudbox, 3DS Max and Maya. What do you think is I go for:

CPU: i7 920
RAM: 9GB
Chasis: Cool Master RC-690K
Graphic Card: Leadtek Quadro FX580

Am not sure which Motherboard to choose, the power supply, how big the harddisk and does it need to Raid, etc… System should I use XP 64 or Vista Ultimate (64 bit)?

Could you please help me? Thanks a million.

Use a Macintosh! Or at least… Windows7 which you can download from MS. Neither XP64 or Vista 64 will bring you over December and who want’s to re-install…
Lemo

I am very happy with xp64 and will use it as long as possible.
Turn icons to classical windows and u have the prettiest thing :smiley:

powersupply : enermax,beQuiet,seasonic
Do not buy a cheap powersupply !

motherboard: look at this thread : http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showthread.php?t=570927

and if you dont want to make savefiles every day…i would take raid or mirroring ( or an external nas-box )

p.s. i´m working with windows 7 64bit on a hp notebook and it runs very good ( also zbrush )

dont get the quadro 580. its not a great card by any means.

its equivallent to the worst geforce card, except that its got some of the quadro code from the drivers that is used in the higher end cards.

its a slow card for the money, and you would be better off with a standard geforce card.

if you NEED a quadro card then something like the 1700- 3800 is good, and probably wont break the bank.

im guessing you wont be playing any games, if you dont, and want a quadro card then just get a card that is atleast one generation old now. it will be perfectly fine, because3d software doesnt evolve too fast in terms of 3d viewports.

if you end up working on games… then just get a geforce videocard. most companies working in games dont bother with quadros because they dont need them.

heres the thing. a geforce for 300 dollars is a LOT faster than a quadro for 300 dollars. the only thing you pay for is for a different driver which is more stable, but that doesnt mean that maya itself will be more stable. the application will still crash when the program is at fault.

windows xpx64 is fine, but out of the box win 7 will get you moving along faster. however if you use windows 7, i would recommend getting a machine with a minimum of 8gb ram, and closer to 12gb. the reason for this is that windows 7 uses more ram for itself than windows xp x64 does, so you would need extra ram to compensate.

to summarize

if windows 7, then get 12gb ram

geforce>quadro value per dollar
if quadro, then get the quadro fx 1700-3800.

i would recommend a http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=9048
its somewhat old now… its cheap to buy, its solid… and doesnt draw much power. that way when the newer videocards come out next year and you feel like updating, you will have more money left over for that upgrade.

other recommendations are.

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=9836

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=9988

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=8004

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=9560

any of these cards will do just fine.

ive personally used these:

geforce 7800 gtx
quadro fx 1700

geforce 8800 gts512 ( current workstation card )
ati 4850 ( secondary workstation card )
quadro fx 3800

I will tell you now that I personally see no difference between any of the last 3 cards i mentioned.

The links i gave you are mostly to faster cards than i have in my machine currently. Thing is, I dont find the need to upgrade because the performance I get out of these is really good. I usually dont like to spend too much on a videocard, because every two years I upgrade them anyway. I would rather spend that money on more ram, or a bigger/higher quality monitor, or a nice wacom tablet, or software.

Hi ambient-whisper, thank you so much for your detail information. As a matter of fact, FX1700 is quite expensive in Singapore, I do have budget concern. I will go for the GeForce card as you recommend. Again, really appreciate your help, your information really useful to me.

I bought a quattro fx 1700 for a ****load of money and was very dissapointed. Actually i still am.

Mind sharing what issue you facing?

what were you doing with it.? cuz if you were playing games then its understandable. the quadro 1700 is the same card as a geforce 7800, which is a few years old now so its understandable. however for 3d apps its fine. it works great with maya, houdini, etc. ( personal experience ). it is overly expensive though for what it is. in my opinion, it shouldnt cost more than 200 dollas by todays standards ( compared to where geforce video cards are now )

Well i was aware that gaming is not what this card is made for.
It performs fine on the source games tho and those are the only ones
i play.
The thing that bugged me was that there isnt that much more performance
in 3d apps. Friends with geforce cards can handle the same polycounts
and it doesnt seem to be different at all.
Dont get me wrong its a fine card and does what its supposed to do
but as ambient whisper sayd its way overpriced.
I payd over 400 euros for it which wouldve got me more than the best gaming card
which wouldve done the same performance and probably much more.
Writing this still makes me angry… it was just to expensive.
Also working on normal geforce cards ive never seen any bugs that the
“superior” quadro cards would not have because of its drivers.
I bet some people know what exactly they have more when buying the quadro cards but so far i havent really benefited from it.
From the money i spent on the card i shouldve got the gtx260 and
an extra 6 gigs of ram… oh well