Sorry Ace, but your post is practically 100% innacurate. zBrush 3.1 flies in Ubuntu Linux, actually is one of the main reasons why I have ubuntu in my system. Just go to the wine website and check it for yourself. As for Maya, it also has a version for Linux, only thing that doesn’t run on it is the Mental Ray renderer.
@ maddox.br - Oh REALLY?? GOOD to know! probably the version of WINE I was using was too old. I’ll research about that. thanks for the information. (by the way, I’m a Kubuntu user)
no it’s my turn to give some information (and I believe an useful one)
in linux, we have multiple users running all the time (kind of, ok?) each user has their particular privileges. owner of the machine (first user) has more privileges, other user has few privileges) and root user has ALL privileges. it can do everything. ok?
so… if you are running a software under ‘owner user’ (default way) and suppose this software is programmed to use certain system folder for temporary files, but this system folder is ONLY accessible for ROOT. so… the software is running as OWNER, and not as ROOT. ok?
so. some softwares when it has to write into a denied system folder, is says “access denied into path/this.file” while others simple “crashdown” without giving you a reason.
2 ways to fix it.
1- run as root:
some softwares you use as root. (in terminal you type “kate” it will open kate as owner. and if you type “sudo kate” it will open as root. and THIS kate will be able to open and OVERWRITE denied files.)
2 - use the root to GIVE such privileges for specific files or folder:
use the “chmod 777” command on files and folders you want to give permissions. (only do this when you have SURE what files are you dealing with)
maya NEEDS a certain folder in a certain path for MENTAL RAY BUFFERING. and all you have to do is create such directory and give such permissions using the chmod 777 command. (if you take 20 seconds to do that, you’ve been so long)
I won’t show you how here, because I’m not sure if I’m allowed to do that in this forum. but anyway, I hope this has been useful.
and thanks again about the information of WINE and Z3.1 version.
hugs
Ace
Ace, are you sure you can run Mental Ray in Linux? I guess I saw something in their website mentioning it wouldn’t work. Although that might’ve changed in the 2010 version, I’m not sure. More info would be cool, as for running zb3.1 on wine, just check wine’s official site, step-by-step procedure is in there and it works flawlessly 
zbrush 3.5r2 seems to work (almost) perfectly with the latest wine here 
yep zbrush works perfectly on wine…
…Im just a bit concerned about the fact wine is 32bit only… not that I usually work with 8mln poly models… but running zbrush on wine makes me feel Im using only half of my system…
Yeah, you use half your system… with double the speed 
Choices, choices, life is hard isn’t it?
PS.: For the record, if you’re into voxel sculpting, 3D Coat now has a native Linux build.
even if im a huge fan of BSDs and wine… you wont really get double speed… yep on wine zbrush flies… but still using only half of my system bugs me…
Ive had a look ad 3d coat… but man thats the slowest app Ive ever saw… let it be the christian-software-aware ad at the credits… that turned a slow-but-interesting piece software into a psycho-made toy…
I mean… I dont think it is very professional to include your race/faith/beliefs/religion/political attitude in a piece of software… it is simply misplaced… 
Ya know, I’ve read this many times already, but I just can’t admit judging a graphics software for whatever its written in its license agreement.
Jeez, I don’t even read those things 
As for the performance, you really should check 3DC’s CUDA (GPU-accelerated) version, it’s incredibly fast.
3D Coat is very cool. The voxel sculpting is fantastic. I’m running the Linux version.
I have tried ZBrush under Wine and it worked. The problem is - can you licence it?
Has anyone tried 3.5?
The only way I would buy Zbrush is if I know it works on Linux.
ZBrush 3.1 can easily be licensed under wine… have wacom support and imo works better than xp/vista, probably couse the os is not busy doing unwanted and useless stuff… oh… and maybe a better memory model…
…but I couldnt manage to run 3.5 
Sure - like in any linux fan opinion :rolleyes:
Dedicated program always is better then some WINE combinations with no guarantee or support. At this moment best linux way to sculpt is with no doubt 3dcoat that has its native version. Period.
no I dont think its a fan-thing, and besides, Im not running linux but bsds
in microsoft environments (especially vista, and Im using both at work) the os is constantly running tasks that are purely optional and unrelated to any zbrush activities. you have indicization, user control, hundreds of services and tasks constantly running and using memory… the hdd is always reading or writing something and the network card leds are constantly blinking…
its not a matter of which is best… unix (system V/linux, bsds/OsX) is simply different by design and implementation, and this is a fact.
now if you want to put and see a dvd with a click, watch 4 youtube pages at once, write on facebook, send a fax or chat with a 16m colored messenger, use an exchange server, excel or access, fully integrated into a webpage, then windows is the way to go, because these are the target tasks it was designed for.
but if you plan on working with a cpu intensive task, in a multithreaded environment, with massive usage of memory, unix is simply faster, and its because of this that zbrush behave this way.
put it on a windows box with a single core celeron, and then try it on a unix one with the same hardware if you want to see what I mean.
you talk about wine like it was some sort of “combination” of an emulator, which is not. it is not a “combination”, and it is not an emulation. When Im running ZBrush under wine Im running it in native mode, no more and no less. It is neither “translated” nor “emulated” in any way. Using words like “dedicated”, “combination” or “native” makes me think that you didnt fully understand what you are saying.
if you want support, go for windows, no doubt, but I wouldnt say “the best way to sculpt on linux is 3dcoat”, because 3dCoat and Zbrush are not the same. I feel very comfortable using ZBrush, but if you like 3dCoat use it.
as for me, the best way to sculpt in *nix is ZBrush.
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Ow, I just love that technical yadda yadda. Honestly? I dont give a damn if my hard disk is working or network card led is blinking somewhere behind my desktop :rolleyes:. Some geek may do - I dont. I enjoy smooth ride on Zbrush.
By simple fact that there is no Linux DEDICATED version of Zbrush you cant run Z3.5 and I can (btw - some people can run Z3.5 on wine, some cant - you like lottery?).
And btw - I was talking about zbrush support - not windows one :rolleyes:
I mentioned 3dcoat not because I like it more but because it has native, linux version and normal user support. Something you cant expect while running Zbrush thru wine. Your “native mode” (yeah, right - native mode thru third party program - thats original…) you mentioned is so great that may work… or may not. It is great that it gives an option to use Zbrush - no doubt. But I would think twice before buying windows program worth 600 bucks to run it on linux. Some people just like all that troubleshooting forums though. Suit yourself.
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I just checked wine website. Under Zbrush 3.5 you can read:
What works
So far everything.
What does not
Online activation.
So how can you use it LEGALLY without activation… Interesting… I am VERY interested in your answer on that matter.
you should, because it means your hardware is doing things slowing down zbrush
you are right
no its up to the os, some using some flavours of linux/bsd can, others cant.
you were questioning spec performances under unix (and my reply was limited to that, since I already stated you are right about support)
the only “third party program” that makes zbrush run under *nix are the dll, which have been rewritten in order to be opensource. thats all wine is. If using a dll in your opinion is “using a third party program” then you are using much more third parties programs in a windows box. Again, I think you didnt fully understand what wine is.
If you feel more comfortable using Zbrush under windows for whatever reason you have, go for it. But if you want to question “*nix fan perception” about performance issues, you should probably have a look at some technical yadda-yadda before posting, and I mean real technical, not like my last post.
as I already stated twice, I am not able to run 3.5 on my platform, while there are no problems to run and license 3.1
If you cant license a software you cant use it.
A good point in using zbrush on windows, besides support, is that on win x64 you can access the whole memory of your machine, while wine is limited to i386 arch, which implies 4Gb max. of ram.
Exactly. So what does mean when they say “What works - So far everything”? They cant run licence so they are testing wine on cracked program? That would make all that little immoral, isn’t it? As well as recommending to use Zbrush under linux, where you either cant run licence on latest version or cant use it at all.
You get my point?
Yes, and I agree, even If I dont find immoral to recommend running a licensed zbrush 3.1 on *nix, as far as you know your limitations (support, max ram and no 3.5), that is imo a matter of personal choice.
There is something funny about open source movement (wine and its users) testing cracked programs. But lets leave that on a side.
Is it a good deal to buy a software and be unable to use its latest version? Ofcourse its a matter of personal choice, like you said.
And just curiosity, since we get pretty deep in the subject - how about plugins for 3.1 on linux?
well, you see, you may already have purchased a copy of your 3.1, probably used a lot under windows, but you would like to know if it runs (and how) on q unix system (and I dont see anything immoral in this), either because you have a stronger knoledge of a different os, or simply because you can not reach a windows system anymore… provided you dont need support, 8gb of ram and you’re pretty happy with 3.1 and dont wish to upgrade for the time being…
in scenarios like these, i think it is a matter of personal choice.
concerning 3.1 plugins on unix, I only tried XYZAdjust2, ZSphereTweaks and ImagePlane, and everything always worked flawlessy…
Optimus Prime enjoys wrestling… thats pretty much code for being pro all forms of man-on-man love, right?
http://news.autodesk.com/portal/site/autodesk/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20091118005276&newsLang=en
Anyone who use Linux can tell you how important it is in a pipeline…
I don’t want to get into “who is better” but you can see that Mudbox is moving towards that