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#61

I know this isn’t a tech forum but I just want to post my results for anyone interested.

I tried the recent suggestion and I found the dll on the windows partition and copied the entire folder over to the wine files but its still not finding the dll.

it was in the WINDOWS folder in the c_drive called WinSxS at first I just copied the folder name and the inner folder name and tried it, then I tried just copying the entire directory but still no go.

somehow I need to find out how to point zbrush to the dir that the needed dll is in.

so this is what I’ve done in the last 2 days and I don’t really care to put much effort into it since I already have it working in a VM. and thats good enough for now. unless someone else find out how to point zbrush to the dll

#62

Apparently someone else couldn’t get z3 to work under wine too:
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1152
(Z2 worked, though)

Maybe you’d like to contact the wine guys like this:
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2005-May/017888.html

#63

Pixologic should not settle for rpm,nor dep. A package should not be destro- dependent (altho we all can use alien or rpm2tgz…). It should either include an installer (like google does) or put it in a tar archive with an install script inside (like ./install.sh ) … or why not keep it static. Just put everything inside a single tar, no install scripts.
The simplest is the easiest. :confused:

#64

They should just use the Loki installer,with all needed libraries in a unique place so not to overwrite the currently installed ones, that way it will work on almost all distros with the same kernel.

.DEB, .RPM, and all the other distro specific formats ALL SUCK! no matter what you do, there is always some little snag.
Ubuntu is the worst at this, they have totally destroyed the .DEB format. Debian packages usually wont work on ubuntu, and ubuntu DEB wont work on Debian most of the time.

Suse .RPM’s will break Madriva, and redhat based distros, and vice,vice, versa

Leaving it up to packagers will definitely lead to disaster. Just look at the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, they cant even get firefox right!

There are other installers like loki too.

Casting your Dollar vote over at WINE might help.

I just use VMware when I am stuck in linux at work… not too bad, but it sucks lots of system resources.

Wish my boss would just let us boot into windows, and when we need linux CLI we can just do VMware from windows with a minimalistic distro like DamnSmall linux.

No matter how you cut it, the linux 3d acceleration drivers totally blow compared to windows.
I have been using Linux for the past 5 years now, and I have never seen anything so pathetic as the Linunx 3d drivers for both Nvidia and ATI, the community drivers are even worse .

#65

now that you mentioned 3d acceleration under linux, i must disagree with you.3d has always been growing strong under linux. OpenGL,mesa,etc…
compiz?composite desktop? hello,innovation.

not to mention that ATI/AMD open sourced their drivers,so now the open source community will be part of their development:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=700&num=1

i bet that within a few months,these drivers will be supperior to what windows has now. :wink: If z was already ported for the Mac,it shouldnt be all that hard to compile for linux.

in any case,linux version would be welcomed,because most graphic studios are switching to linux or already using it, as it is stable,more secure,and free of cost (no naughty contracts with m$)

I agree that the loki installer is the best pick, . I myself and many others are willing to pay a higher price for zbrush linux version.

This poll is totally subjective for the question how many want this software ported to their platform.I can assure you that there are alot more than what you see here. Try a google search,and you will se it. :rolleyes:
Whoever voted against it was definetely a windows user who is not using linux and doesnt care about a linux port.

So z-devs, whenever (if ever) you port it,please send an email,or announce it well enough for the world to hear…because im not willing to keep a 15 gb os with a primitive security and filesystem only for the sake of one application.

Untill then,most of us will be waiting for wine hackers to get it to work before you.

blender can sculpt too, but it is nothing compared to zbrush.

#66

A lunix version would be superb, id pay extra for one too, it would mean more innovation and revinue for pixologic which i can say is a great thing.

#67

actually zb seems the PERFECT candidate for wine or some other kind of emulation. it’s NOT dependent on opengl or any other 3d api… it’s a software renderer so it’s entirely cpu dependent…

so all the tricky stuff with graphics drivers you avoid right off the bat.

surprised actually that zb doesn’t run well under wine.

re: actual linux port, i voted yes but i’d much rather they spent time making zb take more names and kicking more a$$ than worry about adding another variant…

virtualization seems the way of the future with multi core and all that… so i would imagine that just given time, you’ll be able to run zb in whatever native environment you want…

jin

#68

ZMapper3 uses OpenGL

#69

wine is not an emulator. Its a compability layer, a windows api…so,there is no regression in performance of the application being run by it. Stability is another thing,which is being worked on all these years.Wine exists from 1993.

why,there are some applications that i can barely run on my windows XP,because they are too heavy, while in linux,i can run them with wine after logging in minimal system resources DE (like icewm or flubox). I noticed that rendering time is quicker on some applications being run by wine,than ran natively in winXp…which is strange,but you must know that windowsXP is a crazy swapper,compared to some other OS’…by which i mean that system resources/virtual memory is not handled very well,and those with older hardware can feel that…i said its file system is primitive,because of the fragmentation and the speed of copying files. Most modern file systems (which i dont know why microsoft doesnt want to add support for on windows) dont ever need defragmentation and have supperior performance. :rolleyes:

im sorry,im not gonna talk anymore about the advantages and disadvantages of different Os’,just wanted to make some things clear.

#70

great. so how well does zb3 work in wine?

jin

#71

well, at wine’s appdatabase they say that only the demo version works,the full version doesnt work.
also,im not sure if the latest version will work.I myself never got it to work in wine :confused:
not any of the versions. But some guy with gentoo and a few others just screenshoted their desktops to tease others and never said how they got it to work.

#72

I tried the recent suggestion and I found the dll on the windows partition and copied the entire folder over to the wine files but its still not finding the dll.

it was in the WINDOWS folder in the c_drive called WinSxS at first I just copied the folder name and the inner folder name and tried it, then I tried just copying the entire directory but still no go.

somehow I need to find out how to point zbrush to the dir that the needed dll is in.
You need to put the “vcomp.dll” in your zbrush install directory. Windows exe’s look for the dlls in their own directory first.
I got that far, and did that. Now I get error from within the actual dll. I feel like it’s so very very possible, it drives me nuts not being able to do it. PS, is it possible to have access to that Zbrush 2.5 demo anymore or has it been taken down? And also is there a Zbrush 3 demo somewhere too? Can’t find it on the pixologic website anymore.

#73

Hi,
Here is my test:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8023&iTestingId=15367
I got only one message when loading ZBrush - “Wintab service is not available”, but the application works realy fine.

Hristo.

#74

PLLLLLLLL :o EEEAAAAAAASSSSSSS :o !!! Go on! I’ll be your friend!!! Awwwwwwwww go oooonnnnnnn!!! PLLLEEEEAAAAASSSEE!!!

Seriously, ZBrush is the only real thing keeping me working in windows now. I am slowly moving further and further into Ubuntu (Linux) and this really is the only thing left for me in windows.

Though I understand the Mac version must come first and needs to be stabilised.

Wine seems a good temp solution for now, but the overhead seems a little heavy. A look in from Pixologic may be a good half way house on this?

All I ask is that at the next board meeting, this is mentioned and seriously considered, and dismissed if deemed unworthy!

#75

Hehe, nice to see Linux crowd making ZBrush run like us Mac guys. Oh wait, I’m both! Damn!

Oh, the things we can do…

#76

dustbin1_uk and others :slight_smile: ,
I helped to a firend with SUSE (ATI Radeon 1600) to get it working too.
You’ll need a recent Wine (0.9.49 or 0.9.50) and XP instalation that has vcomp.dll - this is the Microsoft OpenMP module. The dll is located in C:/WINDOWS/WinSXS/… directory and you need to get the whole directoty WinSXS from C:/WINDOWS and copy it in the .wine/drive_c/windows.
If you only copy the vcomp.dll in system32 it will not work, because that dll needs the manifests located in WinSxS/Manifests.
I’m not sure if every XP has vcomp.dll module natively, but probably if you install ZBrush 3 on Windows you’ll have it there.

Cheers.

#77

Sweet! Thanks for the info! And does this work efficiently?

#78

I don’t know really :smiley: … I’m not an artist. Someone experienced should take a try. I am just a graphics programmer and i’m using models moslty made in ZBrush:


If you see the second screenshot is on Linux. I’m very interested in graphics stuff on Linux. Thats why i tried ZBrush 3 on Linux.

Cheers.

#79

OMG! YOU DID IT!!! OMG! YOU DID IT!!! OMG! YOU DID IT!!!
Will this work on an ubuntu gutsy x64? I know wine is not in the synaptic, but I’ve heard of people installing wine in gutsy x64. Have you tried it with a wacom tablet? How does it perform in linux?

Can you, please pleease pleeeeaaaseee, make a step-by-step tutorial on how to make z3 work in linux for us non-programmer artists? (preferrable ubuntu) :stuck_out_tongue:

Btw, pixo, (aurick, that is) is it legal/okay to install zb in linux?

#80

Erroroman doing a tutorial when you have time for us non programmers would be highly appreciated. im using openSUSE 10.3 x64.