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#21

@Pilou:

Sorry NO (would have been nice, too) - THAT is just a tiny snippet of those things that stonecutter whirls around in his head, doing POV-thingies in “training-mode”!! :smiley:

Stonecutter: just could not resist to show some of them fellas (that probably don’t know WHAT POV exactly is) what you were talking about :D. You must have been kidding!!

POVray (free download) http://www.povray.org
Moray (the frontend 80€) http://www.stmuc.com/moray

Using Moray you feel like working with a hybrid of MAX and Wings3D, AND doing it the stonecutter way (by brain :D), well: you can easily forget about that!! It’s worth the look!!!

#22

my favorie app is Wings 3d now!

I can create realy lo-poly stuff quickly, plus, I tweaked my WACOM pen to have mouse 3,

SO now I model without ever touching keyboard!!!

Realy nice, I lay down on my bed and relax and model at night now insted of laying and watching TV…

#23

Zerebrom: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :+1:
It reminds me of the episode in Fawlty Towers with the ‘Filigree Hamster’ in the biscuit box…
I didn’t work out entire scenes to that level, but I could come to my studio with bits of code embedded in my frontal lobes all right. Seeing that code again gave me a fuzzy feeling… :wink: In spite of the fact that I used to program in Basic, Forth, and even wrote a cheesy word processor in assmbler code, I have always hated programming, but somehow the scene description language never felt like programming to me. As long as you are careful with syntax, it was exactly that…A description of a scene, written in fairly understandable English…I saw Moray, and it’s great, but I always liked writing the code for some perverse reason, even though Moray was a step up in ease…
I don’t have POV-Ray installed right now, or I’d try this scene…Why don’t you render and post it? Nothing like a visual example, right? :wink:
(And thanks for making my morning here in British Columbia… :+1: :sunglasses: :+1: )

And FootFace? Right on, regarding MAYA…It always made me feel like an accountant to use it…
:wink: :smiley:

#24

@Stonecutter:

glad you took it the way it was supposed to be :D, and for the code: it’s just a small box, an example that comes with POV. The only thing I see from POV - using Moray - is the final render (you can hear it as well: configured it that every time the image is rendered >>> the initial riff from “Helter SKelter” dooms out of my speakers - NICE!!).
Ok, back to learn a bit more (it’s working allready :D), see ya!!

#25

zerebrom, or stonecutter: what are the advantages of povray? (Idid’nt know it before)… the gallery on their site is’nt, in despite of a street with a wet bird, not very convincing, as a render and artistic abilities… there is somewhere a more demonstrative gallery?..L

#26

Marcel, one of the main advantage of POV-Ray is that it is 100% free! :slight_smile:

It also has a pretty rich feature set, such as photon-mapping, radiosity and media (good for rendering such effects as clouds and atmospheric effects, etc.)

As to your second question here’s a link to Gilles Tran’s gallery, a pov-ray artist of much repute.
http://www.oyonale.com/

Also, check out the winning images in www.irtc.org (Internet Ray-Tracing Competition [I don’t know why they still call it that since 3d non-ray-tracing renderers are allowed as well.])

Getting back to topic, there were two old 3d programs for the Amiga that I really miss.

One was Sculpt-Animate 4D and the other was called Draw 4d Pro, (the version after that called Alladin 4D).

Sculpt 3d (the previous incarnation of Scult-Animate 4D) was the very first 3d program I had experience with.

Draw 4D Pro was a program that I was working with around 1989-1991 and was years ahead of its time with it’s feature set. I wonder where it would be today if it was still around.

#27

merci Windged one… the serie “famille” is effectively superb, and in the render abilitie to translate very complicated scene…

#28

… while you’re at Oyonale, be sure to have a look at the “Tools”!!!
“Spatch” is one of the things that can be downloaded there FOR FREE, and it is simply great!!!

#29

Hi WingedOne
Thx for Oyonale
I have missed this guy!
Some pages to surf :slight_smile:
Pilou
Ps In another style take a look at http://www.yannminh.com/

#30

Interesting link

I,m a poor man but have a wealth of free softwares all came with magazines
Bryce 2.0 really nice Amapi v.5
Truespace 3.2 Poser3 and Amorphium1
the last one is an organic clay program
I know they are not the latest versions
but are really good tools
I like Zbrush but really after using it a lot
For me it is all just fun I have no purpose but to spice up my desktop and to stay on top with my knoledge of what is new
I agree with stonecutter on the fact that the tool is just the tool the artist has to
be the creative factor and determines the best use of what ever tool he/she uses.
What I found to be frustrating is having too much software resulting in not creating anything any more I think it is nice too see that people stick to a package they got used to and know its flows and flaws (is this good english? I.m dutch)
Well I made my point
and thanks to treads like this I found some new software mainly small tools for a specific task thanks for those.
:slight_smile:

#31

now i have to give my opinion :
if you really in 3d you cant have only ONE programm - none of these(also the “high end” progs dont have it all( maya unlimited is near) - so you must have in mind what you will do in future -
art,web, graphic,animation -? (and also one question is do you want make money or only for hobby? (dont be afraid :you can make money with cheap progs!)
for (paid)grapics it is also important : time -time to make exactly what you want- some things you can make with all the progs but in which time?
i am only in stills so i decided for Truespace 6.6 (most of tecnical is so fast and easy and making the scene is faster than in other progs(my opinion!) - the realy pics you get in postwork -(take PS,PP and PSP!)
today there are more and more non- photorealistic pics and that is why you should look at sketch,toon and nonphoto shaders - a cheap prog is now CARRARA 3!his renderer ist fast annnnnnnd good(hdri and play with the nonphotorealistic renderer) -also a plant modeller and teerain builder what do want more -if your get better take a look at Cinema4d (the best in my opinion -with body-paint (like Texturemaster :smiley: )and shave (for hairs).
Last tip : if you want to make animation easy ,fast and cheap -take AnimationMaster !