The quote thing is gone…
Email links to new posts in threads do not work.
Neato! I will make do with NotePad…
Aurick, thanks for referring to my rant as feedback, you are ever the diplomat even when Im in a snit.
Sure they will. For example: http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthr...=1#post1076273 In fact, such a link opens in a traditional view of the thread. To get this link, click the Tile's picture so that you can see the expanded view. Then click "View Original Thread" at the top left corner of the page. You can't see the forum index page the old way, but individual threads within it are still fully accessible.
This is fixed now, all email links were sending me directly to the Main Page that did all that autoloading…
Linking to a specific post in a thread does not work. This makes posting a tutorial in an existing thread pointless.
See my previous reply. Further, if you open your original thread in this way and reply to it with your tutorial the tutorial will create a new Tile (if there are images) and will still be within the original thread as well. So people can get to it either way.
This is at least partially fixed too I think since we can now get at the old view…
Main page is a waste of bandwidth (autoloading).
The thing is that tutorials are often pure text with ZBrush since its so easy to describe how to do things, I usually don’t want an icon when Im just posting some neat thing I figured out and am describing. If I put up a tutorial about how to get around the GroupByNormal button thing not working right I don’t want a tile springing up for it especially if its just the last icon I might have saved for something unrelated. I have stopped saving icons as they appear like Avatars on other sites and that gets very confusing. Actually the last few have been saved to make ZBC stop asking me if I want to save them when Im doing an edit. Its like telling ZBC to leave me alone about the bloody icon…
You're going to have more bandwidth with or without the autoloading because you're now seeing all images. On the other hand, this is offset a great deal by no longer having to scroll through post after post to find images -- if the thread even had a new image to begin with.
The main page went nuts, loading and loading and loading, some of the stuff on it was very very old and had no discernible order. Now that the “classic” view is there I don’t have to worry about it but I was seriously thinking of using AdBlock to kill the script making the images come up. When I am looking for someones images I look in their gallery, I don’t see how all that mayhem would help with anything aside from random image viewing, its like having everything in an entire store crammed into the front window.
Links at bottom of page are nearly impossible to get at because of autoloading or what ever its called.
Only on the index page of the Main forum. Any other forum page works as before. Also, if you click the "My Favorites", "Following" or "My Posts" tab, you'll get to those links if you want them. But that is good feedback and it move those links somewhere else on the index page.
I found out later that the links at the bottom were accessible on other pages, that is correct, however the point about favorites and following is interesting, I should have nothing in either. Unless being subscribed to a thread is now following and having favorites is linked in some way to the thread rating stuff both should be empty for me. Um… one of them has stuff in it I have never even seen…
Placing posts in main forum without an image results in Windows 8 like error about needing "tiles" Windows 8 is a monumental failure, not something to imitate. Again this kills off posting tutorials and things with text in them and not images.
The Main Forum is for posting artwork. So any new thread in the Main Forum MUST have an uploaded image. However, replying to a thread/Tile does NOT require an uploaded image. If you wish to add a tutorial to one of your posts, do this: 1) Go to My Posts. 2) Click on the Tile that you wish to supplement with your tutorial. You can now either Quick Reply at the bottom of the page, Go Advanced for more options or at the top of the page click "View Original Thread" and reply exactly how you're used to. Your new tutorial will be part of the Tile you're creating it for.
I think I addressed this above, but this doesn’t just apply to tutorials, it applies to general conversations about ZBrush which were possible in the main forum before and seemingly are not any more (I haven’t tried since classic view popped up). If its just for artwork now then that changes things and I think I should move my thread to something less rigid. The tutorial section springs to mind but its (my thread) sort of all over the place, its a mixture of experimentation, tutorials, humor, things I made and stuff made by others, some of it is even artwork, hell it even has Michalis and I doing some world class bickering about Blender! I don’t get to my thread using ZBC stuff, I have a bookmark or I use links in my email, both were broken, now both work again…YAY!
Getting to threads where one has been having a conversation for years is now either impossible or very difficult.
Advanced Search is still there. We also now have the Calendar if you know when (or approximately when) it was being made. Further, if there is a thread you want to keep an eye on simply make it a Favorite. You'll now always have access to it, no matter how old it is.
This is again fixed by classic view, but the idea of knowing when something was posted is amusing to me, if I am lucky I might get the year right, as for searching by name… I can’t even begin to spell half of the names on here. I remember where things are mostly by context, and besides, you can only search once then you have to wait, then you are told you are searching too soon… I have never had much luck with it. Actually I would work on search before changing the way the site works. Search is sort of screwy, and if this stuff were aimed at making the site more image oriented it did NOTHING for making it easier to upload them.
Links provided in "New Posts" at the top do not work.
They're working fine for me. I tested just now. Perhaps it was a glitch when you tried?
That got fixed… so YEP!
UI seems designed for touch based devices such as phones, ZBrush does not run on phones.
ZBC is not ZBrush. Not everyone views ZBC on the same computer that they run ZBrush on. I, for one, often go to ZBC while I'm having dinner in a restaurant. Or waiting for a movie to begin. You might well be different but one of my biggest turn offs with a website is when it turns out to not be friendly for mobile devices. Very often I will opt instead for a competing website that is friendly to both platforms, just so I don't have to deal with having different bookmarks for different devices.
ZBC is, to a vast number of people, PART of ZBrush, not just new people many of whom consider it to be the only real documentation, and in fact a great place to get the documentation translated into something human readable.
All websites are NOTHING BUT a GUI for some underlying code which is generally expected to make life less confusing not more. There are a lot of websites that acknowledge the fact that a lot of people are sitting in restaurants, movie theaters and careening off of cliffs in automobiles while looking at the internet by making a mobile version of their site, these sites do not work well on a normal computer a fair amount of the time and usually the server will redirect traffic as needed. Just because a tablet or phone does something in a particular way doesn’t mean that someone sitting at a computer wants it to work that way. The whole touch screen thing is frankly getting on my nerves, people keep trying to touch my dammed monitor. Soon I will see how they respond to my windexing their eyes! I dont have any of these mobile devices, I have no need for them but when I make a website I make two versions, one for the mobile things and one for normal computers. Not that I make a lot of websites any more but the servers can tell what you are using and direct you accordingly.
But wait theres more!
Useful HTML stuff such as lists, frames and the like are now harder to get at.
Still available in the View Original Thread view.
I dont have a “View In Original Thread View” as near as I can tell, where is that? But now that Classic view is back I don’t need it I don’t think… right?
Anyhow thanks again Aurick, I now have a list of problems that is FAR shorter:
The Quote stuff which was so useful is now missing! And that causing this post to be hard to read I suspect…