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Portrait of Scarlett Johansson

Regarding the posts by u3190 and hotknife, I’m sure the people who were prematurely pushed out of the Recent Threads rows because of your childish attempt at sarcasm will be very appreciative. :roll_eyes:

All figurative art is plagiarism, only the westerners wrote history on it and laws and made it legit.

Ah, you’re lawyer-like by associative osmosis. Gotcha.

I ignored your Spotlight example because it was irrelevant to the gist of the point I made in my first post. I’m not concerned with source indistinguishable (poor quality in a lot of cases) photomaps projected on low poly meshes. I also do not and have never used Spotlight nor do I use photomap projection in any other 3d app. I didn’t express any concern about murky, nebulous gray thresholds of copyright infringement as it relates to plagiarism, or any possible legal ramifications there either. That would be the OP’s problem not mine. I used the word ‘plagiarism’ to accurately describe a particular circumstance. You decided to go off on a myopic tangent. So again, I was referring to the overtly blatant plagiarizing, stealing, ‘borrowing’, or swiping (whichever one of these descriptive terms floats your boat), of another artists work, directly (in a quite easily recognizable fashion), to complete another work. Hell, why not take the entire photo and just paste a digitally sculpted replica of Scarlett’s nose in the PS doc and state (or not state) that beside the nose the rest was “done” in Photoshop. 50%, 95% ‘borrowed’/stolen, what difference does it make?

No, I don’t do fan art of any kind, let alone knock offs of licensed products by big buck companies employing armies of aggressive copyright lawyers–not quite that stupid. In a lot of cases a small time infringer will just get a ‘cease and desist’ letter.

Yeah, I’m sure everyone gets the drift that there is nothing new under the sun, even some third graders I presume. Every form of art in some way mimics another. Harold Bloom wrote a book on poets about the topic, the title says it all “The Anxiety of Influence”. After all, aping is what humans do best. I’m not interested in gray area excuses for swiping peoples work, reaching deep down into archetypal thematic similarities, or describing the use of half assed photomaps on low poly meshes.

I’ve been following this thread for some time now and would just like to say its getting a bit out of hand…

I understand the points of view being shown and I agree with most of them BUT its starting to turn into a grudge. I don’t see any moderator around and these last posts with photoshop are really bringing it even lower.

I would suggest, if people are so bothered by the way Zbrush decides what goes on top row to create a separate thread and discuss it there instead of bashing the author’s original post.

I agree that the image has a lot of Photoshop and the parts that he seems to have done aren’t that well accomplished BUT he didn’t ask for top row and I’m sure he didn’t ask for people to bash him like that. How about giving him some constructive criticism on how he can improve his art and respect the other artists that he took his work from instead of doing this?

We are all artist and we should be in this together guys!

I missed this thread.
I don’t particularly like sculpting here but its ok, a typical zbrushing with lot of details, pores etc. If animation is the only purpose for 3d sculpting, I don’t really agree, having a hammer and seeing only nails around… :lol:
But what I see here is a so and so hair modeling and a projection of a photo via pp on it. Sorry. Lets stay in 3d world as possible.
Oh, I just realized that this is a top row. Oh my… Unfortunately I rate only *5 on what I like and nothing on what I don’t. So nothing here.

CastorPT :What you said is very correct.And many ones are just very interested in finding some bad sides of that image.
Its the fact that , the artist didnt ask for the top ROW.and i think more than the Awsome creativity, its a bit of fortune for US to get that,He got it,now please just leave him as this will help on his way.
Actually i think Everyone imitate something,Humans are not possible to produce any new thing.
In someway cg works are actually a repetation of orginal one to make it more good looking,and i think he does it.

It is rather silly, we are all artists as said already “We are all artist and we should be in this together guys!”. I can undersand why people are angry, but let us be polite to one another and respect ZbrushCentral.
I come here to look at art, to connect with artist and be inspired…
not to read insults and depricating comments.

p.s The way the TopRow is picked is to me anyway, simple. What looks “good” in the little preview. This way ZbrushCentral can have a nice looking “gallery”. If you click on he Gallery button, and go to the main section every little Thumbnail looks very pleasing to the eye.
A form of marketing for Zbrush. =)

p.s.s Be construcive and polite, or do not say anything at all. The same as in CGTalk.

Actually I was trying to bring a sense of humour to this lynch mob that seems to be forming.

Head over to 3dtotal where the guy has a portfolio of images that are of a very high standard, he’s obviously got talent and is capable of good work.

So a few people here feel they have been misled because the author didn’t lay out a complete road map of how the image was created. I don’t believe he did it to intentionally mislead or fake. And if I was him I won’t come back to this thread to justify myself in the face of such overt crit.

We understand and respect the opinions on both sides of the issue here. The debate has raged quite a bit out of hand, though, detracting from the positive and helpful tone that we want to foster at ZBC. For that reason, this thread is being closed until further notice.