Mmmmmmmmmm looks like the top one got bigger and the bottom figures smaller (height). Apart from yhe feet difference, and possible the change of position of the ovelapping handsā¦if I can see that area properly.
And if you copied the figures from the bottom left one, each figure appears to be slightly bigger overall each time they are copied.
All you say is true, but those things isnāt what is really remarkable (to me) about the image. Anyone else?
You can not put 3 figures underneath the bottom row, it has to be 4 figures, but that would be impossible for the stanceā¦so the stack is limited to 3 figures.
Or if you look quickly from one to the other, then back repeatin until you fall off your trollyā¦the mind catches a third image and the image then has a strobescopic look.
Or, it was made entirely with Outlook express
big heads on the right
A wild guess: the complete composition started with one Zsphere, 1 roothsphere. So you didnāt make one figure and copyed it but the 2 figures at the bottom are actually childspheres of the topone. No?
Given the size differences in the heads of the adaptive skin, I assume that it is all one zif model. In which case Iād say the definition between the feet and the heads is quite remarkable (if it is one model, is the fella on top attached at the bottom of the foot or the ankel?).
Maybe the guys on the bottom are also attached at the wrist, which would make this an adaptive skin of a closed zif loop (something I always wanted). But it doesnāt look like it, so Iām just fishing. (As an aside, I wonder what is the limitation that makes it impossible to join two pre-exisitng zspheres together. If we could do this, we could make circular, āclosedā zif models?)
Can we have a closer look at the models? A clue? A bone?
well it must be something to do with the figure bottom leftā¦judging from the different colour spheres.
Also the skinned version of the group on the rightā¦the skinned bottom left figure seems to be brighterā¦(mind you depends where your lights are placed)
Hi DigitsĀ”Ā” upper left no eyesĀ”Ā”Ā”
Andreseloy
Dear Digits,
enlighten us soon, please!
feets from the upper boy are inside the heads of the zifs models, and after skinning his feets are over their heads? 
:rolleyes:
just a try 
Maybe you are using an attractor sphere setup which enables you to position child zifs anywhere you want but still retaining the original zif skins?
Just a guess 
Some great deductions, Fets and Bonecradle are closest to the solution of this mystery. The fact that the feet are showing thru the head is indeed another clue.
Instead of just revealing the answer, I assume you all like a good mystery, I shall give you an excersise to try.
Download the model from Mahlikus the Black and use Zif Clickās Copy/Paste function to recreate my image. All should be revealed, I hope!
no comprendre - but thats probably due to sillyme not finding a cskin-way for mtbās incredible tool. however, heres a 14 ft. render i kind of liked 
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I know, the top one has a larger, higher head than the one he is standing on. The feet inside the head changes the skinning.
Just another try.
You are playing with us
My assumption is still that this is one zif model.
And the mystery to me is, I donāt know how you can copy and paste two of these guys together in one go (the third would be easy, but the first two?). As the root zsphere is the one under the large chest zsphere, the branching of this model is not conducive to copying and pasting as you have done in your picture.
You could do this procedurally by starting at the top of the head and working down, but so far I havenāt been able to replicate the foot in the head manouevre.
I am guessing wildly that you did do this in one go - if thatās the case, we just have to find the two correct zspheres and the proper order of copying and pasting. Unless of course this is the prelim to a new feature, like the ability to change the root zsphere.
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Bonecradle figured it out, it is indeed a new feature of Zif Click I am working on. It still has a few bugs but it will allow you to specify a node on your model to become the root sphere. Which is really cool!
How I made the model
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Started with MTBās cool dood
<LI>Made the right ball of his foot the Root Sphere
<LI>Pasted that guy on the head of the original model
<LI>Took another copy of the cool dood and made his head the root
<LI>Pasted that guy to the left foot of the combined model
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There you have it, although now I am completely befuddled how Juandel did his! Always more than one skin to a cat.
Anyhoo, thanks for playing my little game, hopefully it will pay off when you can start a clickin and a rootin
That is super cool!
I have wanted to be able to change the root zsphere a couple of times in the past, so I am really excited you have figured out a way to do it. It will certainly open up new avenues for modelling as you have shown here, and it makes zifs much more flexible.
Bravo 
PS: All Juandelās heads are the same size (i.e. the skinning is unaffected by alternative zif arrangements), so Iām guessing he did it the old way and they are all separate models?
ha! that will make it a lot easier, Floyd!
all one zif, bonecradle 
as you will have noticed the guys - except the top one - have no necks i assume thats a result of my workaround via bmove function of zifclick: after a few even more bizarre results due to the rootzspheres location i āselectedā the node right above the root (key ādā), thereby turning upper chest, arms and head orange, copied it, selected one of the footnodes, pastedā¦ did another ādā on the pasted topheadzsphere, activated b(ranch)move and moved the pasted branch downwards and inside with a few d and i moves until it was sitting below the foot. same procedure for other foot. to get the 2nd floor guys some feet i selected everything from the top guys lower chest downwards and pasted it. oops, now its 4 legless guys as the branch included the recently pasted parts, too, of course. so i had to reload mahlikus wonderful original tool to select it from chest downwards - copy - reload the pyramid and paste four times - voila
You guys with the low member numbers are amazing!
Sven
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