That’s not really what I meant, and that last part was Xarf quoting me anyway. But, I wasn’t speaking of the release in general. I was referring to your latest post at the time. Every time I see an unspecified release statement I think it came out and I missed it. So I search for it, and it becomes a little frustrating. Because I do subscribe by email to this thread, and If you look back at my post you might realize what I meant at the time. I’m just tired of running back here every time I read an unspecific release statement in my email. I was hoping you would start referring to them as the PC plugin, and Mac plugin, or something along those lines so I don’t jump out of my pants, and scream every time you put it like that in a post. 
A few may wait with a kind of mild grumbling, and the rest of the world hopes that above all things Pixolator et. al. are/stay safe and happy.
The notion that Pixologic are working long hours is a little disturbing for me. I hate the idea that they’re pressured; they’ve contributed so much and asked for so little.
Can the level of confidence / range of possibilities, be illustrated more dynamically / humourously?
“The notion that Pixologic are working long hours is a little disturbing for me.”
I agree.
I can only speak for myself but would like to say that nothing should be put upfront of a healthy work/product environment. Balance is also represented in a product. And in the end it is reflected in my work. If it takes another month but people go home on time and have fun… I’m fine with that. Nothing has been so important in my entire life that it is worth sacrificing quality of life.
I’m already feeling bad enough for getting all the cool stuff for free…
LemonNado
I agree that it’s bad for Pixologic to feel pressured. From the little scripting I do I know how trying to solve one coding problem can throw out a lot of new problems. You can’t be sure when the thing will be done when that happens. There are software companies that throw out their software at the announced release date regardless and then release an update every week or so to correct the bugs. Personally I’d rather Pixologic scrapped their release dates and released both versions together in future. That way we’ll all be equally miserable but can console ourselves with the thought that the Pixologic crew are working happily on a wonderful product that they are generous enough to share with their loyal following FOR NOTHING.
Zbrush is by far the most reliable modeling program I use. It is also the most fun.
Personally, I love having estimated release dates and don’t mind if they are missed. It gives me a time to wait for to get new information. Then when that time comes I know that I don’t have too long to wait. Being a hopeful sort of person, I completely understand hoped for dates. Even if the time is delayed so what? We have never been let down before. We waited something like 6 months for Z2 for the Mac. It works flawlessly. I sincerely hope you keep posting roadmaps and take complaints with a pinch of salt. We love your program so much we can’t wait for the next release, update or upgrade. You have a loyal following for a reason. There is nothing around like zbrush.
Take a day off and SLEEP! nothing bad will happen to us if we have to wait an extra day. Surely we are not going to grumble and say, BUT ITS NOT FAIR! We mac people may despise PC’s, but if the PC version is ready first would we be so coldhearted as to want them to wait for their version until ours is ready? All of us know how hard you are working and appreciate the effort everytime we turn on our computers (even the ones who complain).
We are like the spoiled children of an indulgent father who in addition to having unlimited funds (and imagination) for goodies and treats can also do magic. I for one do not want Santa Claus overtired and unhappy!
I myself like guestimates. Mostly so I have an near idea of when it might be available so I can set aside some time to play with the new toys and features…get the old computer cleaned up and ready.
prepare the notsounderstandinghalf for my disappearance, ya know silly little things like that.
but I am not going to complain if the guestimate is wrong, would much rather have a good stable tool with which to get up and running and enjoying when it is ready…not when I am ready.
Aurick, I feel your pain. Used to have customers that would yell unrepeatable things at me if I was even so much as 1 minute late getting their Product to them and often I would say well you can have it now, unperfect and looking like crap or you can wait 1 hour, 1 day, whatever it was and have a museum piece that you can be proud of, show off to friends etc or get it now and hide it shamefully in another room. Your choice.
they picked the latter and so would/will I.
Happy to work with a Mac, I can wait for the best.
Keep going Pixologic! 
There is a answer. Get a cross platform setup. Mac and PC.
I just hope none of the PC plugins are delayed because of MAC problems. ZAAP Link is due this thursday I hope it is not delayed.
Nobody wants their plugins to be delayed. But if they are, that’s a pretty good reason. Wishing further delays on someone else to get your stuff faster is just wrong.
This is a community. If you’re going to be selfish, disrespectful and frankly, prejudiced, you can do that on your own.
Also, do try to remember these upgrades are a free gift; an act of generosity. Pixologic is going above and beyond in their efforts to meet their proposed timeline. You’re making them wonder why they bother.
I didn’t think that I would get involved in this discussion, however I do emphasize with Aurick. Working in this industry has given great rewards but at a price. Clients are more demanding and are expecting great things without giving us a key ingredient ….time. Time to deliver something that we are proud to put our name to. Instead we have to put our personal lives on permanent hold and work crazy hours to keep THEM happy. At least we do get paid (eventually) for our efforts. Aurick and the rest of the team are happy to give us this new magic for free – I don’t see any other company doing that. I don’t see why we have to act like spoilt children waiting to receive and open their presents on Christmas day. ZBrush is a tool, and it should work long after Christmas is gone.
Sorry if I have offended anyone in this rant!
Full support to the ZBrush Team
CMD
Pixelogic is fantastic. I’m willing to wait. ZBrush allowed me to go from an illustrator who draws on the computer to one that sculpts on the computer…which in time will allow me to get my work done faster and make more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
Aurick,
Well I must say one thing, I am suprised with your response and respect it. I was being glib so I will try to explain my position in a more mature manner…
I understand the pressures of software development, if not the particular dynamics at play within the development process at pixologic. Try and understand, the problem as I see it is not that the displacement exporter is delayed for the Mac per se, but that the OSX platform is quite obviously considered second in your development process. I do not think this is due to any ‘ill will’ on Pixologic’s part, and in fact it is understandable since the PC represents much greater market share. However with the crossgrade licensing scheme that is in place us Mac users are left out in the cold as a result of your prioritizing one platform over the other.
Now it could be argued that if I want to run Zbrush on 2 machines than I should have to buy two licenses. However I am told in my Z2 license that I can have a copy of Z2 installed on two machines at the same time as long as they are not running concurrently. Adding the further restriction that both of these machines must be of the same architecture only serves to ‘lock out’ OSX users on all the new developments. I think this is a poor customer policy considering the ‘second place’ that the OSX port occupies in the development process.
Personally I have a PC sitting next to my Mac that would be quite good for running Zbrush, but as it is it just sits there gathering dust because I have literally no use for it. Were the situation different I really wouldnt have any problem with the OSX port always being two or three steps behind because I would then have an option. As it is, I and other Mac users have to shell out 200 dollars in ‘Mac tax’ if we want to use the latest Zbrush tech on our PC workstations.
Finally I have other applications such as Motionbuilder and Silo which allow me to switch freely between the Apple and Win32 enviorment. It is ironic that I am given that option because I have very little reason to exercise it as both applications maintain feature parity between each platform. The one application that I have that does not maintain feature parity also locks me to the platform that will always be considered second in the development process.
Thank you for your time, and keep up the good work your doing on Zbrush, whatever platform it may be for.
Xarf
First where did I say I was hoping someone else stuff is delayed,Please do not project a negative light on my statement. Read it clearly. I use Zbrush to do professional work. So if it is delayed and the features I could use in it are delayed I am less productive. I bought a cross platform license since the Mac code is more difficult. However me wanting the PC versions in a timeframe seperate from the MAC is not selfish it is reasonable. You can not find one PC user on here that would say let’s wait
for the MAC people to get their plate at the table before we eat. Pixologic should release the version of PC regardless if the MAC version is ready or not. I hope the MAC people get their versions too. Since I use a Mac myself.
And as many people complain about release dates I am almost hoping they charge the people who complain about a free upgrade a nice $300.00 fee next time to upgrade, but then that would cost me so I will not wish it on them.
When the PC is ready release it. Mac is ready release it. Nothing selfish about that just common sense.
Oh, come now.
You weren’t saying “I hope one platform’s completed changes aren’t held back to let the other platform catch up so they can launch simultaneously.”
What you were saying is “I hope development on my platform doesn’t slow down as a consequence of trying to serve a minority who should just buy PC versions so we’d all get it faster.”
This was in response to a whole bunch of Mac users coming to terms with another PC release preceding theirs. (Perhaps you misread those posts, or skipped over them. But I have to base my comments on the assumption that you’re actually following the conversation) That makes it difficult to interpret your words any other way than “Your efforts to help those people had better not inconvenience me.” Or simply “Screw them! Work on MY stuff!!”
I agree that Pixologic should release what’s ready when it’s ready. But I don’t think they should cut their losses and put all Mac production on hold to keep the PC version on schedule. At the very least, I think it’s distasteful for a user to call for that, and heartless to do so in this particular context.
I’m a PC guy saying that, without a shred of irony. And I pity your worldview if you think I’m alone.
Two things:
Keep it civil! We don’t want to have to start editing or deleting posts because the thread got nasty. There’s no reason to let that happen.
Enough already! There is no point in continuously rehashing opinions about the age-old Mac vs. PC dilemma. That’s not what this thread was created for.
This is a road map. Like all roads, there may be detours or construction delays. We’ll say more when we can, and any speculation is pointless.
Thanks. 
Agreed Aurick. However someone attack my post added something to it I did not infer. So I had set the record straight on what I meant by my post that is the civil thing to do. I got teed a little when someone chages something I said. Human nature.
Also heated discussions are not always bad for civility or your product. They show how much people love your product. You would not argue over something you do not love.
So as a customer I say to you Aurick do not worry about us quarrelling it just a family fight we will kiss a make in the end. We all know you guys are working hard. We should work harder at being respectful, but it is healthy to disagree now then were all just human.
Keep ZZZZZZin
Don’t bother worrying at all about me, and my Mac anymore. I’m buying the cross-grade now that Alias was bought by Autodesk. Maya for the Mac just ceased to exist. So I’m picking up a copy OF XSI, and joining the switchers club for those who have seen the light. :lol:
Mac -to- PC
Maya -to- XSI
ZBrush2.5 -to- ZBrush2.5 :lol:
I like the road map. A general idea of when enchancements are due is enough information for me to make decisions.
Thanks
Welcome to the cross platform club Bill! The best way to go if you can afford it. I am eyeing the new XSI 5 too. Great price and powerful.