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#621

I have been with Zbrush and Pixologic for 7+ years now. This is nothing new for them or for the software industry. Software release is an intricate choreography of data handling, personnel, and patience on so many levels.

As for the honesty of Pixologic, let me tell you a story. Back in August of 2002, I stumbled onto ZBrush 1.23b demo and, with two weeks left in a long ZB contest (Third Party with Pixologic), I tied for first place and won a copy of the next new ZBrush (1.55) due out Soon. 4 month later…lol. They released THE DEMO and a month later on January 29th, 2003, 1.55 was released. It took me half a year after winning that contest to finally get my copy. I was like most of you until then, but still had to complain little because it was free…a prize. For the past 7 years, I STILL feel the same, Z is my prize and, true to their word, even for someone who hasn’t given them money for my ZBrush, it HAS STILL BEEN FREE! That alone compelled me to spend years here giving back to this community for as long as I can, though I am ashamed to say that this hasn’t been the case as of late…for a few years now.

But it has to be said, they are a laudable company. Honest and good hearted to their core. So, hold on folks, it will be here and it will be good.

Here is what it is:

IT WILL be awesome,
it will be free,
It will be out when its ready,
when download files and keys are set,
when servers can handle the virtual maelstrom of the public downloading,
when support section is ready and focused for their tumult to come,
and so much more that no one but pixologic and people in the industry with SOME semblance of understanding in this can truly fathom the ramifications involved.

Given all of the above, I can wait, be it a week or a month, or even a year.

It had been and always shall be My Prize.

#622

You a true sport Mahlikus. :smiley:

#623

word!, MTB :]

#624

Here’s one for you ZB3.5 :wink:

Wild Thing

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#625

I pointed this out and was mocked. Feeling slightly vindicated.

MC

#626

Eight Miles High
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#627

Dancing With Myself
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#628

Across The Universe
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#629

Best Byrds Ever.

This video has always ticked me off in that you hardly see McGuinn and his 12 String at all…sheesh, You’d think it was David Crosby and some back up band.

#630

ditto KyReb :+1:

#631

KyReb here’s McGuinn playing the 12 string - Eight Miles High
embed disabled so here’s a link to view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmE4tQAGV6E&feature=related

#632

Its like you guys at Z-brush love art and artist or something. Can’t wait to play with the 3.5 and 4.0 respectively.:smiley:

#633

I love what Pixologic is doing and I think that their development is next to divine, but their public relations is completely f’ed up.

They keep promising things by certain dates and they don’t deliver. That is bad business. They can develop all day long and that is great, but they are messing with other peoples livelihood so that they don’t lose ground to competition. This software is expensive.

Blender has similar sculpting abilities that are free and being developed free, so the companies that are working for profit have to work even harder.

I have had zbrush for a long time and it is still completely unstable for me. It crashes all of the time. They should create a stable program first, and then work on improvements.

#634

There is a HUGE desire for what Pix is doing. People will pay (eagerly and gladly) for what they have created. I can’t wait for it.

#635

I have to also agree with zbrush being very unstable even with 3.1 . But ahhhh dont you see why the updates are free now :slight_smile:

#636

Little to no instability here. Some are just unlucky I guess.

#637

Jack999,

I agree with you that falling behind on release dates is bad PR. And that bad PR is itself a poor business practice. Things have gotten better by leaps and bounds, but it’s been a sore spot with many people for years.

Within that, though, you seem to be making contradictory points. I don’t know whether you’re saying:

a) Pixologic should hold off on a feature release and focus on stability,

or

b) Pixologic is harming the industry with each delay.

I have no problem with a), though I think you’ll find it an unpopular view here. Most users are happy enough with their stability, and genuinely don’t care about yours if it’s going to cost them features.

As for b), I don’t buy it. Nobody’s making business decisions based on the proposed release date of a software update. If they’re in a production, they’re not installing that update. Doesn’t matter what software we’re talking about - the devil you know is always safer than the devil you don’t. You can’t gamble on an unknown when there are deadlines pressing.

Likewise, while I’ve been very impressed with Blender’s progress of late, I don’t think anyone’s losing their customers to it, no matter how much some companies might deserve to lose customers.

People are always reluctant to try free software to replace something they’ve paid for. This sounds counterintuitive, but walking away from something isn’t free - it costs every cent you’ve invested in licensing, training and R&D, while incurring new costs in the latter two columns. Heck, even if you ignore all that, the free software can’t be cheaper than a free upgrade. At best, it can only be equivalent.

But really, cost is irrelevant. If you’re in a professional environment, you’re going to use the tools that your team is already trained in, unless a new tool is able to give you more power without disrupting the existing workflow. That’s just the reality you’re stuck with.

There are exceptions, of course. But they’re few and far between.

Anyway, yes. We’ll get it when we get it. And some users will have problems, but they’ll love it regardless. And the world will keep spinning.

#638

and which windows are you using?

zbrush is mostly unstable when you are out of memory. up until then it works just fine. theres the issue that freezes the application but that one shows up once a month at most for me, and is easily gotten around if you just hit the save hotkey.

#639

Happy Trails
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#640

When I’ve had Zbrush crash on me, it was on a system with a bad memory controller. On my laptop, it has not crashed once. Well, it crashed when I tried to save Zcurves, but this is a known bug. It did not crash while I was actively modeling something.