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Thanks Victor and It’s true first will make the basic shape and later apply the texture on my next try

My first US soldier finished

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YET AGAIN you have failed to do research and use reference

The image below shows what the US army uniform looks like

nevery fight on the jungle?

I understand learning a new program can be challenging. You really need to be a student of reality. Never create anything out of your mind…unless you’ve been doing this sort of thing for 30 years. Reference is KEY!!!. Second, you want to create stuff as its created in reality. If im going to make an M16 for example I don’t just fudge one big object in the vague shape of a rifle. I construct each piece, barrel, hand guards, sight, bolt, lower receiver, you get the idea. I would completely forget texture until you get this down.

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im not really one to talk much cause i’m still very much learning myself, but im in the same situation as you man. I play with zbrush as a hobby and i love using the program, but i have to agree with everyone saying that selling items at this early a level of work is very much the wrong idea man.

i went through the same phase as you. roughly modeling things as quick as possible just to make things i thought look cool, but then when you compare it to anything made by anyone who takes a bit of time with their design and it should make you cringe at your own work… make you eager to do better, not just to do more. Going in it to sell the models you roughly make will make you just keep roughly making them and not focus on improving your work.

i stopped posting here for maybe 8 months or so, not because i wasnt using zbrush or didnt want critquing, but so i could take my time and learn the ins and outs of the things causing me problems. now i can render things extremely well, present my ideas in a well thought out manner, and i understand tthe workflow of laying out my model so that my details look clean on all subdiv levels and not just like i made a melted plastic likeness. now i don’t post something unless i am happy with the effort i put into it and feel its worthy of asking others opinions on.

if your not willing to learn anatomy then you should focus on creating simpler objectscreatures for now. i will fully admit to having issues with complex human anatomy in my models so i stick with heads and other creature work as well as experimenting with box modeling… but im still learning anatomy every time i try making a well defined model that needs to look realistic. learn how to make hard edges that arent just a layer brush on a random model. learn how to retopo… its not as hard as it seems and once you learn how to do it and can understand how to use that in conjunction with masking to make truely eye popping hard edges, then you start coming close to being able to legitimately charge for your efforts.

honestly… i know you dont want to hear this… but the level of your work… chargin for it is a scam. i could take any human base mesh model made by any of the fine members of this community… export a unified base mesh of it… and rough it up to make it look as good as any of the base body meshes you’ve posted here …and i could do it in minutes… if you’re going to insist that your work is good enough to consider selling it at this point then you shouldnt be posting any messages on a forum like this. it’s kinda insulting to people who work their asses off to make it in this industry when you say something like that is worthy to sell to others. if you want to learn from the people here learn… if you want critiques be prepared for critiscm … if you want to sell something poorly made i suggest hanging out in the second life forums.

edit… just to make a point … this is literally 5 minutes of work using a 3k poly version of superaverageman… i didnt try to make any texture folds or edges yadda yadda which i respect that you’ve tried to do… but 5 minutes of work and my shirt / pants textures are still laid out better just from the brief planning i did in the 5 minutes i took… is this something sale worthy?

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I really don’t get why you guys are getting all bent out of shape about him selling his models.

Do you actually think people buy the organic stuff he does or did they buy his buildings / ipad / glasses and etc?

Give the criticism that you want to give about his anatomy (which needs a lot of work) but leave him alone about selling it.

He can do whatever he wants with his models that does NOT mean someone will buy it. And even if they do, who cares honestly, its their money they are throwing away.

As for my own criticism , everything you guys said sticks so Ill just echo that.

amigo,:td:, chale… entiendo que quieres ganar dinero con tus modelos en zbrush, pero la verdad es que necesitas MUUUUUUUUUUCHA practica, olvidate de que quieres “ser gold” en turbo squid y mejor dedicate a aprender anatomia, y la verdad es que espero no volver a ver tus trabajos CHAKAS hasta que te la hayas rifado.

que tengas un lindo dia :wink:

my only reason for saying it is because i dont think he realizes the distraction it is causing him in his learning of zbrush… motivation to learn something comes from a number of reasons… but the best reason and the one you should always focus on first above others is to become as good at that thing as possible… money should only come after that…

hell i’d love to make a little money off the side from something i love doing and learning… but what’s the point of being unrealistic about it early on… would just be an unnecessary distraction and if i could convince myself it was worth selling something then i’m not convincing myself to get better and better first and foremost

Why have you re painted that using the image I uploaded ?

I get what you are saying but that is your opinion, he obviously thinks differently and we should either “respect” his position or give him critiques on everything else he does and not on what he chooses to do with the end results, that is his business. (literally)

This is a Zbrush forum, not a “Is my model good enough for TurboSquid forum”

Not trying to be rude or anything. I rather not fill his thread with comments about something this forum is not about that’s all.

My 2 cents.

dont get me wrong… i dont mean to belittle anyone or challenge his personal view or anything… just coming from someone who went through the same stage in development of my zbrush abilities recently that interu seems to be on in now, but that has pushed my way passsed the rushing through things hump thanks to some pretty harsh but honest criticsm from zbc members… i can honestly say that if interu doesnt slow down and focus on getting better over everything else it will be a much longer slower process…and the quality of his projects will suffer for it. but that’s up to him to decide whether or not to do.

for all of the great help the zbc forums give people i’ve seen some very downright ugly criticism of things here… some unwarranted insults for people who are just trying to learn… but i realized along the way that even the harshest of criticism here is more productive for getting someone to realize what they need to learn then on similar forums out there. everyone here is trying to help eahc other perfect their craft which considering everyone is making future competition for their own jobs it’s crazyness… we all mean well even if what we say is something people dont want to hear. and i’ve been told plenty of things i didnt want to hear like the same criticisms of rushing through, not planning ahead… leaving things looking melted and unorganized… not anotomically correct… why dont you focus on 1 project to completion rather then rush through model after model… etc… wasnt happy bout being told any of that cause i have my own way of learning thngs… but i stopped… and listened to what i was being told… and the level of my models and renderings i believe has improved dramatically from when i was last posting things

everyone has their own way but if u really really want to learn to be the best listen to the best… and the best in the industry hang out here and say the same things to people all the time… practice… practice… practice… perfect…

Don’t worry about comes from google and I must say my best selling models from TS are Ipads Xbox and others maded only with 3ds max, ZB It’s only a testing mode, I repeat not making money intention, Im just learning and I was on idea this forum help to that but I see not, I got some better opinions and rates from people that got amazing jobs anyway thanks for the constructive opinions and people that really understand

no me quites mis derechos (de mamar)

y en efecto tengo modelos con alto rating y certificados por calidad como puedes ver tu que trabajos tienes?

Hi Interu2x,
It seems you hit a nerve with some people here. I couldnt be bothered ready all that stuff but it seems to me that your ignoring some very good advice. Most 3D artist spent years learning this trade. Sparky3D said use real reference for a reason, to make it look real or believable. Take your time with making your models and refine them otherwise no one will want to buy them.

Best advice I ever got was from my brother when I was about 13 and just drawing at the time. I just wanted to get the pics done so I could do another one. He asked me why I rushed them and why didnt I take my time to make just a few really nice ones.

Anyway good luck with it.

The main problem here is that looking through all your previous threads, you’ve gotten a TON of great advice from a lot of amazing artists, yet you have not listened to any of it or shown any improvement. You just keep posting the same models with the same melted look. Now, if that’s what you like, that is totally your own choice and nobody is going to lose sleep over it. I just hate seeing great resources (Zbrush Central is honestly one of the best and most talented communities in the entire world) go to such waste.

I’ve already said this in this thread before, but go look at a picture of a soldier and then look at your model. Do they look similar to you, or even close? Even crazy monsters, goblins, orcs, devils, werewolves etc all take their most basic shapes from real human anatomy. That might be a little intimidating to work at since you seem to not be listening at all, but if that’s the case at least look into doing some of the Gnomon Workshop tutorial videos, or look through a Ryan Kingslien thread and be appreciative of all the fantastic resources that you have literally at your finger tips.

Just my 2 cents, and I really hope to see you work hard and make some improvements. Nobody is bashing you just to be mean, we just want to see people improve :slight_smile:

its a nice soldger but thare is alot of flaws with it that you did not take the time to fix its best take your time when modeling otherwise it will not come out with a great reselt
like the belt for example i have no idea on how it works and the gun holdster it looks like it was molded but it made to look it hard serface the greenades not hook up on the shirt

for examble this is something i made in a say or so
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=153308
it was very poorly made because i did not take my time
frankly i dont even like the model but before when i did not see the flaws it looked almost perfect

any way keep it up keep lerning

Jajajajajaja no bueno… la neta me hiciste pasar un buen rato riendome de tus modelos todos deformes, plastilinosos y carcomidos. “”"""“Alta calidad y certificados?”""""" jajajaja wey de donde, para de mamar, ah no no! dispensame , no te quito tu derechos de mamar, siguele mamando ;). Dejame te digo, Turbosquid le da su “cerificado de calidad” a TODO, y eso incluye modelos que parecen abortos como los tuyos por los cuales no daría ni 10 centavos.

Si quieres seguir siendo un mediocre y hacer caso omiso a los consejos que te dan, síguele, pero los comentarios aqui dichos en este thread avalan lo cutre que eres para modelar. Eres una verguenza y el bufón de todos los modeladores que sin son chingones de Mexico, por eso la industria está como está.

Ni te molestes en responder, mejor hazlo cuando me muestres algo digno de ver, ahi te encargo nomás, mientras tanto sigue haciendome reir, que lo haces bien. :smiley: [attach=267806]images.jpg[/attach]

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Primero no te quito tu derecho de mamar, si quieres mamar, hazlo.

Amigo eres la definicion de la palabara CASCAJO, si hablas de tus modelos de turbo squid…chale… tu modelado es pobre. Eres el tipico wey que solo modela con chamfer, extrudes y booleans y despues le aplicas el turbosmooth por que “crees” que asi se va a ver bonito. Aprende a sacar uvs, aprende a texturizar bien (tu castillo tiene pixeles barridos), casi casi aprende a colorear.

La verdad me das tristeza.

Ahora si quieres ver mi trabajo, buscame. He dicho.

Eres tan chafa. para modelar como para escribir ingles.

p.s: casi se me olvida, tus modelos no son de calidad, ts solo pone eso para la gente que no sabe modelar(como tu) los baje o simplemente para reirse como yo lo hice.