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Halloween Bat for all...

Hi Guys

Yes, I’ll upload mine onto the dav; I’ve no qualms about sharing this if its useful to anybody in the ‘team’ :wink:

And give the poor fella a ring Jason, please…blurp!

EDIT: How do you get all your posted images to appear the correct size in the thread?
I put my ‘other’ Halloween card yesterday on the main ‘Halloween’ thread, and it seems a bit hit and miss - sometimes it suddenly appears right; others a thumbnail…:qu:
And yes; I have searched :wink:

Chris

Well, I guess it’s true, that the practice of making fun a routine would take the fun out of doing it. Although, there’s practically a theme/celebration on every month. History has shown that Man has made it a priority of coming up with an excuse for at least to gain a day’s off of work.:lol:
Like Thanksgiving in November; Christmas, kwanzaa, hannukah etc in december. There’s a new year celebration in December and January. Martin Luther’s day. Valentine, Chinese new year in February. I think the last hurdle would just be the final rendering. Rotate final rendering task every month?

I’m not sure about thumbnails and normal pics. I’ve used both the ATN tag, and the ATT tag with thumbnail=1, and it seems everything shows up sometimes as thumbnail, sometimes fullsize. :rolleyes:

And, on file sizes:
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Image types can be GIF (extension ‘.gif’) or JPEG (’.jpg’, ‘.jpe’, ‘.jpeg’), with a maximum file size of 200K. Other file types can be Text files (’.txt’), ZIP archives (’.zip’) or PDF documents (’.pdf’), with a maximum size of 500K.
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Hmmm… Rar can split the files to 500Ks… I dunno. I hope this forum could provide somewhat of a hosting for complete tools. Limits at 5MB or 10MB is more reasonable. Maybe a petition to Pixolator or aurick? To make a thread with a loosened filesize limitaition? Really now, if this thing flies, it’d help pixologic, don’t you think?

Jason, you’ve really been very generous in running this thread, I don’t what to trouble you with the burden of burgeouning files at MoléCubes. Not to mention the bandwidth.

I think the most viable solution for now is the script thing you said. Although scripts from different sessions must be combined and it shows a modeler’s skill and really informational. Although, if you only want the finished model, you’d have to sit thru all that modelling session and not to mention broken scripts…

And most of all, I think, apparently, practically everybody basically would be willing to share their models/scripts and this chance would be a great opportunity to have something going on here in this beloved forum… this sweet… .sweet nectar of. . well, ehm. So, let’s get this right, have a set of procedures and licensing. Because, if you have your models out there and one day you came across something online that’s recognizably yours and there’s no license declared for the mesh, well, you know how it goes.
LOL :smiley: yeah, I’m gonna be pushing for somekind of open source license for a while here, so, let’s talk about it please? I think at least we should say, that we have this file out for certain purposes like education or something.

All valid points feureau.

As to a form of license, well that has been around for many years. It’s called copyright. The problem is and always will be that if someone wants to do wrong they will. You cannot change that. So if you decide to show an idea, display a work, share something, you have to take the responsibility that it is going to get replicated, modded, mutated, what-have-you. I accepted long ago that I have no control after the ideas escape my mind. Which I think is a very good thing. After all imitation is flatery - steal it all!!

My wife has pointed out over the years, where certain ad styles, web campaings, technologies have looked pretty darn similar to mine - done years earlier. It just makes me smile, you see I was first. Or was I? Does it matter? I’m certainly not going to waste my life tracking down everyone that is too lazy to do their own work. That would include a large percentage of the last 2 generations. Many of my former students, employees, business partners, and probably a lot of people I don’t know would probably fit into that catagory. Even here on Zbrush Central.

I guess what I’m suggesting, is that if you can’t give freely, don’t. Life is short and Karma has a long and poetic memory.

We’ll see what can be done. I’ll have a chat with the funny looking folks at Pixologic… :wink:

Yeah, that’s exactly what I mean, you know. If you’re participating and uploading a mesh you’re basically giving out something for free. But unfortunately, life isn’t that simple. I was reading opera mini EULA the other day and it mentioned restriction on the software’s usage to control nuclear reactor. I mean, yeah, you can give give something for free but you may be liable for something that people use it for. At the least we could say something like if you can’t give your mesh freely and handle the consequences, don’t give. And like “use at your own risk.” e.g. the very least the creator of the original zscript or ztl where all the models derive from could get somekind of “protection” if running the script or tool destroyed someone’s zbrush software. And the license is at most important on the original model. I mean if it’s placed under (for a bad example) CC No derivative then all the derivs are illegal. And without declaration, everything is in limbo.

And getting legal license like GPL or Creative Commons would give further more legal assurances.

I hope pixologic would somewhat supports the file hosting/sharing because, this thread is more like a class than merely a collaboration. :smiley: People could learn a lot by sharing knowledge, collaborating, helping one another, in this thread.

Don’t get me wrong feureau, but I don’t think it’s a viable approach - this license thing. I mean many of us post ztl’s and scripts, mess with it if you want. It’s the only way to learn and if you do something better than the original work - ‘ups’ to ya!

I should have time later this week to get in touch with Pixologic, but don’t get excited - space is money. Scripts would be the only viable approach that I can see.

Although maybe all you say is true, and that is why Pixolator no longer plays with us.

I don’t mind posting a script now and again to get people to blow off steam, so I’ll be the one. If others don’t want to play along and be part of a final image, that is fine, they can post an image and laugh with glee at the sheer cunning. :wink:

I think next time I will move this back to the zsphere thread, as that is where it will do the most good. :wink:

Well, I guess all that matters is that people who post their scripts/ztls understand that their contribution could/would get edited and abused mercilessly. And I suppose that this is somewhat of an ‘accord’ across this forum since there’s so many people giving tons of free stuff here.

Anyway, althogh I’ve been leeching for a while. You used to be able to see pixolator’s portfolio on pixolator.com. But the pages seems to disappear. (Do you visit zbc via pixolator.com or zbrushcentral.com?) And LOTs of pixolator’s stuff, but the guy seems to be in low profile lately. Do you know what happened to pixolator? I’d hate to bring up old issue that irks the guy. He’s given a lot to the community.

Jason, I think given the amount of post this thread generates, it’s best to have it’s own thread. Just give it a distinguishing prefix. Like monthly collaboration: (the title of the work). (bad example, I know)

I hope this can take off. I really enjoy your script and had lots of fun (while learning a lot) doing the tool. :+1: :+1: :+1:

Keep us posted with the pixologic connection. :wink:

Here’s the link to my bat. Please treat it with respect.

http://mihd.net/ih3x2r

The file expires in three months. After then, if you stumbles onto this thread after the link expired, and wants to get a copy of the bat. You can PM me.

Edit:
A more permanent link. They promised no deletion. But if deleted, the above applies.
http://www.mediafire.com/?9nmydgfyyot