He’s waiting for you to invite him into your house.
LOL Bicc. I know I have a bat around here somewhere but it’s wood! 
Hmmm Egos. I think I had one of those for breakfast hehe. Good with coffee
Jason, I never cash a check when I don’t have any money in the bank to back it up. I am 49 and have been a hobbyist for years. I don’t claim pro status. Any creative projects I indulge myself in are done because I enjoy learning and doing. I don’t have to worry about the younger guys. All I have to worry about is how many crickets I have in the bait box (semi retired) You seem rather paranoid about the younger guys but need I remind you they arent children. They are full grown with a much larger arsenal of tools than they had when they were say, 5 or 6. On the other hand there you are with something they don’t have in spite of that newly acquired tool set. You have experience. Maybe one day when they reach your age they will be able to catch up to the level of experience you have now but by then? You will be retired and fishing or swinging a golf club! :D
Hey Guys I just wrote about a study published in a magazine , don’t get carried away. I dont even have a wooden bat
Tartan what I meant by creativity is on the universal level and not just individual level.
When u say “I did it my way” it pertains the method which you took to show people your creativity and doesnt pertain to creativity itself.
I am not talking about zbrush, or such software tools which give us today the abilty to create awesome graphics, I am not even talking about designing. I am talking about "creativity in our lives ".
The point here is as you said it is experince which makes a man. When the person grows old the only thing he has with him is the experience he collected over his life time.
This experience matters to all of us because life teaches us with help of “trial and error method” and its this experince which is a boon for us as well as a curse.
an example.
A man standing on a cross road with 4 roads going in 4 directions without meeting each other, he could choose any direction to proceed in life. Thats what we all do take one road and stick to it because with time we gain experince and become more confident of it and even start succeeding.
But how many of us come back to the crossroad and start exploring the other roads ?
we dont do it maybe because we fear the unkown on the other roads or we are suceeding in this road and think its no need to switch tracks.
But its possible those other roads would have given us much more experince, more success and maybe even failures.We go deprived of that experience and this is our biggest curse in life.
If you are designer will you think of becoming an astonaut ? logically it sounds illogical
This is the reason why pople say failures are pillars of success because a person who has failure in one field will come back to that crossroad and either start again on the same road or take a new road.
Over time he will have more experince then a normal person who choose one road, succeeded in it and went along.
If you think experince defines creativity then we all lack it if we just keep going on one road.
Here children are lucky because they lack experince . Thats why they can take any road they want and have ample time to come back and take another . They only disadvantage they have is lack of skill and intelligence .
But then many scientists are currently working on child brain, maybe in future they will create a hardware/software which will impart adult intelligence in a child brain - making them super children who can do things which we adults cannot even imagine to do
Then you people need to look for some kind of weapons - even steel bats wont help 
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Cube pusher understanding tools is about learning a particual skill with the intelligence and experince you have aquired with time and does not reflect the creativity you have. There are thousands who use zbrush but cannot create some design of very high level like many of senior members here.
As said what matters here is the experince and that experince needs to grow not in one field but in many fields, that will define a part of your creativity.
believe it or not thinking is not directly proportional to creativity (but thats another sensitive topic shouldnt start it here now)
Regarding the attitude, thats what exactly I wanna say , we need to be carefull of not doing the same thing again and again , most of the time we are helpless about it because either clients wants the same thing , whole market is wanting the same thing or sometimes we need to do it to feed our own stomach and fullfill our basic needs/luxuries… at the end today to every youngster what matters is to be settled in life, get a cool spouse and enjoy life. ironically we realize a lot later that we curbed our original creativty somewhere
Ok I know you people are ready to hit me with a bat before that child, So enough for now.
this one post is going to go very long, whos on my side - only Jason ?
You knew I had to reply to this didn’t you Wicked? Yer Sneaky 
“When u say “I did it my way” it pertains the method which you took to show people your creativity and doesnt pertain to creativity itself.”
Of course it has to do with creativity Wicked 
Many and varied are the paths to ummmmmmmm Final Result and Final Results are not the same for all people 
How you take that path is entirely up to you and the results while Similar are totally original. Perhaps pointilism vs cubism as a stark example or perhaps a mixture. Having experience means you have at your fingertips a combination of techniques to bring vison to fruition. If I sit down to paint Mona Lisa do you think I would do it the way leonardo did? I certainly hope not. I will do it “My Way” Course shes dead now and that point may be moot.
“The point here is as you said it is experince which makes a man. When the person grows old the only thing he has with him is the experience he collected over his life time.”
Ahh but the point is not only does man have that experience he can Still follow the Muses wherever they choose to lead him. Experience brings advantage but the creative spark is Always operative and Experience is Not the only thing he has with him. It just gives him a more weathered view
On your crossroads analogy, don’t you realize that crossroads are with us every waking moment in life? Each second we have presents the oppurtunity to take a different road and sometimes we may be just sightseeing until we get back to what we were doing and Want to do. Comics anyone? In my case a Novel?
“If you think experince defines creativity then we all lack it if we just keep going on one road”
I never said experience defines creativity it merely enhances it. Experience gives advantage. And I Hate staying on the same road and Love sightseeing And trust me I have a Lot of experience taking different roads 
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Wicked, Children do Not have the advantage in creativity. I am free and often do follow the muses and the paths I take with that creativity are not hindered because I am an adult. I have to chuckle at that.
Can we agree to have the right to disagree? lol
Now where’s my bat at! :lol:
Yeah!!! Coincidence and retribution is at hand.
The beach has just announced the same contest for this year.
Design next years beach badge!!!
The prize is two complimentary beach badges ( worth about $140.00
dollars)
All entries become the property of the beach.
Deadline is August 15.
If you wish you may mail your nonreturnable entries to:
Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association
Attn Beach 54, Pitman Ave.
Ocean Grove, NJ 07756.
Should I enter again?
Should you?
Post it as challenge! Any case… what are the dimensions?
Lemo
Any Size, they suggest smaller vs larger.
I would, of course, buy the winning badges, quietly.
Good Heavens… The contest is starting again? Good thing I prefer the mountains hehe. Bicc, dammit. Submit something to them. Win or lose who cares? I guess I Do know a bit about egos. I often let it get in my way until I summon the will to strike it off the path. In my case it’s damn hard to have an ego when you have nothing to have an ego about lol. Somehow I manage
I think Lemo is right and it would be a fun thing. Do a challenge in the challenge forum and bring the Bats!
Tartan my friend, if you only knew me. Paranoid is not a term that could ever be applied. Interesting interpretation though.
Are you sure it’s creativity and not development by experience, result of the production line approach, with minor fixes over the years? I find the spark of youth to be creative, without influence. I find through observation that the older you get, the more you are influenced by experience and knowledge and little of it is truly and honestly spark of creativity. Over the years for various companies I have had the pleasure of many talented people working for and with me - in several industries. To this day, little evidence stands to demand the reversal of these thoughts. Whether it be friends who are artists for life and in their 60s with recognition on 4 continents, industrial designers with 45 years experience, producers, directors, animation wizards from ILM with 30 years, young people fresh out of school, young people with a few years practice under their belts, or those little people we are contemplating whacking with bats mentioned above - it has held true. I am in no waying saying we as a group aging are incapable of doing great things as time passes, just that it is not creativity as much as experience. Perhaps the initial assumption of the definition is the issue. Perhaps I’m just ruffling feathers because I can.
Either way man, your work is great and appreciated as are your views. My bait box is always full, fly-fishing?
" ME ME" agree with Jason. At the end he is one of the most experienced out here.
Tartan dont mind, no hard feeling :lol: LOLS.
ok I got a new topic " Creativity thrives on individualism or teamwork ?"
Will be posting a new post on it, Just have a newspaper article in my hand about it.
Bicc - whats the theme ? just remind me again 
Want me to ask my neighbours children to participate ? :evil: :rolleyes:
wckedsunny, you don’t have to agree with me based on experience, my wife doesn’t!
wcked: any theme, will be background for beach badge.
the badge itself is about an inch and a half wide.
If anyone here enters and wins, will "negotiate "for the badge.
( not sure about their “sellling the prize” policy, I am sure we
can work around it.)
Deadline is August 15, entries become property of Beach.
( watch out for the kids)
Jason I am neither your wife, nor a woman so maybe I can try trusting you.
Anyhow wives never trust their husband 100 % or do they ?
Bic might try completing it if I get some time from my outsourcing works. or will ask a kid to pool in.
Guys call me “wicked or just sunny”
Dont make me tear my hairs out realizing that I forgot To put an “i” in the wcked while registering on this forum, thanks to my keyboard.
if you have a creative imagination and with the right tools anyone can start drawing but drawing good comes with alot of practise. that girl just likes to do what she feels like and in the end just played around and made a piece that was enjoyed by every1. if u let ur emotions + imagination go free im sure almost everyone here can make up something very kool. im a young desinger as well lol :rolleyes:
the hell with her,she beat me, deserves no consideration.
Bic
Sometimes we have to understand - we need to loose something to gain something. We all have our own basic karmas to be followed which has been written even before we are born, we cannot change this.
We cannot win everytime, and we cannot loose everytime. So try this time, maybe you will win.
Make it simple, plain simple. Simplicity is the beauty of life.
Understand, should be a better person, wish her luck, take
joy in her success, revel in her artistic ability.
Kick the dogcrap out of her.
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anything else ?
wicked: think you just about covered it all:D
I am all for Jason, because:
>> artists for life and in their 60s with recognition on 4 continents <<
describes me with maybe the minor “correction” of
"…with no recognition on ALL continents (if you mean “Earth”).
Routine and having learned the tools will not push creativity any further. At best you will be able to put a cafloumage (EDIT, this is meant to read camouflage!!) over the fact that creativity is down, just by opening your private toolbox of so called “industry standards”.
One more reason to be all for bicc.