Beautiful work!! Thanks a lot for sharing it!! 
Got to tell you the cool factor on this is a total 10. Congrats Patton.
You guys (Ansomnia, etc) can dis Lucas and Spielberg all you want.
The audiences obviously enjoyed the move as did I. Current box office domestically is $275,000,000 +. Critics have always hated Lucas. Not audiences, obviously.
Most folks in the FX industry wouldnāt have jobs or the software they use, including ZBrush, without the vision and support of George Lucas.
Show some respect.
I thought the skull and the skeleton looked amazing, not cheap.
Iām sorry Patton if my comments on your work wind you up so much. If you think I was being too harsh well my mistake, Iām sorry.
Iād be really pleased reading comments good or bad ones from anyone -the pizza delivery guy who accidentally visits this forum or the superstar concept artist who regularly does- doesnāt matter. I think the idea of a critique is that all opinions matter not just the ones coming from the big shots.
amsomnia-I donāt think you were harsh at allā¦ not focused? maybe.
critique āmyā work, thatās what it was posted for, just donāt assume that I/we had much to do with what gets on the screen, or how money is spent.
I donāt consider myself some great Artist, and I try not to be negetive in posts because I know that it is a long road to get to a place where you feel comfortable with your work.
I just dont get the ācritā, it was about the skulls looking cheap and the movie sucking. not about how it could be better.
Tell me that my models or render suck, that was the work I did, I had very little to do with the look after that, but my friends worked very hard to get it all done (on a budget) they really took that shot, not me.
If you want to give some advice on how I can improve my work, I will take that advice to heart ,I always do, I think we all want to improve and you canāt get better when you try to create in a vacuum.
Crits Welcome
Patton
Patton, youāre right. As they say Iām trying to blame the construction workers for the architect work.
I guess I just didnāt thought of it that way. Certainly I admire the effort put into something like this and if that was the look you and your team were set to do well done. The modelling and renders as you can already see are on the top row, so no extra word on that.
What I wanted to say was more on the lines of the final look of the object on screen -mostly when the actors are handling it-, it really appears to be like tinfoil covered in perspex.
With so many options now for detailing in applications like ZB I think it would have been nicer to see a skull design along those lines. Especially considering the role the skull plays on the story (mind control, alien revival and so forth).
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to answer and of course always for posting the work you do for us āthe commonā ZBrush users.
Patton, sorry my comment wasnāt meant to be the partypooper it was, but itās refreshing to see the Wooting and backslapping come to an end and critical thought take over for once on these forums.
In my own weird roundabout way I was actually complementing your zbrush models and renders. āand certainly didnāt do your zbrush work any justice.ā
I happen to like the zbrush work but I really donāt think the finished āonscreenā result helped describe the form and detailing you put into this piece. Iām glad amsomnia backed me up on this one as I felt like I was the only one.
I merely used this as an excuse to voice my disappointment with an eagerly anticipated filmā¦
I donāt think you can really equate sales with great work, (Britney Spears is hardly the most talented singer in the world) so that arguement somewhat falls flat. Iām completely speculating here but I presume the majority of sales were by people who loved the original films and were hungry for a sequel.
Anyway, it is somewhat unfair of me to have used this as a platform to bash the film itself so I apologise.
p.s. Iād rather not get into a cock fight and I choose to decline your challenge to post a more awesome skull render 
amsomnia- Thanks for the comments, I tried to do some crystal looks in zbrush , but was unable to do a clear material that looked good , I simply donāt know enough about the mat cap options, so I used a glass mat ( that someone else made ) in mental ray, and did some post work in PS3.
Working with clear materials in tha real world is even more complicated, remember that when you make a hero piece for a movie, you must make multiples of that prop that are identical, I agree that the stones in Indiana 2 are more real looking. Those were, I believe, polyester resin with cracks that are a result of heat during the curing process, thus a very unique result and almost impossible to repeat.
So I guess what Iām saying is that we tried to get the best results we could in the time we had. with mor time they might have been better.
Remember, we are all artists here, that makes us all ācommonā to each other, so we must stand behind each other, and make art that we can all be proud of!!!
PATTON
Well put Patton. Your work is top rate. Besides being talented, how did you get to work in Stan Winston studios? That man is a genius isnāt he. Your spurring me on to want to improve and create work of that quality
SinisterUrge, It was a strange twist of fate that brought me to Stan Winston Studios. I quit my job and Jim Cameron wanted some 3D designs for Avatar, I sent a resume, they responded,I had 17 year expreriance in make-up effects, Blah blahā¦
Stan recognizes what it takes to do this job, not all talent and ambition, but a little ability and B.S. in equal parts. ( Iām full of B.S,!)
He says if you donāt know how to do it but you really believe that you can, thatās what will get people behind you and you will be able to get it done!
I have seen it happen!
Now that really is starting to sound like Tony Robbinsā¦yuckā¦sorryā¦
PATTON
Despite all his irritations, Iām a fan of Tony Robbins. Actually more to the point what he teaches. Its not B.S. when you deliver in the end, its called having belief in your ability really. I better stop writing now myself before I start sounding like another TB
Amazingā¦how did they do the prototypes? is it hand made???whats the stuff used as crystals??? glass???Fiber???
inspiring work
He used a rapid prototyper aka 3d printer
After I saw this thread and commented on awe inspiring work, I had to run out the next day and see the movieā¦fantastic job! Despite some of the other ctrits, its gotta be awesome to see your digital sculpt on the big screen!!
Im sure the 3d print was done on one of the highest quality printersā¦do you have any idea of the cost of the print? It looks huge.
Totally badass work, Im jealous as hell! haha.
Bloody hell Man!
Every time I turn around you got some amazing new thing up.
So thatās what you guys were up to when I visited huh ^___-
This looks great man!
BTW, flying up for Siggraph we should get together.
Cheers
Cesar Dacol Jr.
Aka, The Voodoo Monkey
voodoomonkey- You mean to tell me there is a world outside my little cave! THE HELL YOU SAY!
Yeah, let me know when, I think I can see some light through a crack in the wall.
AA-ron- I believe it was printed on a Viper 2, there were three prints of the skull one was almost 17 inches long one was 12 inches and one was 24 incnes, a quick way to judge the cost of a print is about $100 an inch give or take depending on thickness.
You donāt even want to get into the cost on a 9 foot skeletonā¦
ananknair- The final skulls were a combination of materials , urathane and plastic,
but the printed piece was a urathane native to the printer.
Hahaha I figured it was an expensive print, but I didnt know it was that much. But when youre in the big time movie business, Im sure that was easy to afford. Too cool. I wish someone would pay for my models to be printed haha.
Patton - Your work looks amazing, I really like the detail youāve got on the skull. The ribcage has a creative design but it doesnāt have as much detail as the skull; to me, it looks a little out of place.
Other than that nice work, keep it up
AMAZING WORK!
FANTĆSTICO TRABALHO, COMO SEMPRE! :eek:
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Great stuff.
Thanks for sharing.
Cypher
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