Free ZTL Model from Nick Zuccarello (new VIDEO page 9 added 8/7/08)

[Pencracker]

thank you nick! I was testing a little bit your model's geometry and this is the result. Man 2 woman speed test:

[mikala]

Excellent rework/remodel!

[spaceboy412]

i don't understand why someone would go through all the trouble of making this model and doing all the anatomy and then gender neutralize it, religious or not its just dumb, christ had a *****.
whoa, i can't believe that word is crossed out even on this board, a board of artists, who are all brought into the world through use of one of those. weird.

[nickz]

Pen******* - Very cool resulpt, thanks for posting this. I really like the hips and crotch area.

spaceboy412-You are not the first to point this out, but it's just dumb? I don't quite get that. In all the years of me working as a professional in the industry I have never had to put full frontal male nudity in anything I have created.

I'm sure you already know this but most video games and movies do not have fully visible male genitalia in them, so if it will never be seen then what is the point of putting it in there? Just to say I can make the shape. To me I think that that part of the anatomy is not all that challenging anyway, the feet were a far harder problem to solve. (IMO)

If you would like to take my model and add the one piece of anatomy that truly makes him male then go for it, no problem. That is why I created the model.

The test above by Pen******* leads me to believe that the geometry that I have created will make it easier to make a female sculpt out of the same mesh. (Pen*******- Thanks for making the sculpt.)

spaceboy412- I see that you have modeled a female in the past on these boards, correct? Did you model all the female genitalia under the skirt? If so what was the point if you never see it?

For this model I am going to be adding clothing and armor, what point would that serve to have the male anatomy modeled out so I could just cover it up? That to me seems like a lot of work for something that will never be seen, wouldn't you agree?

Just because Christ had one does not mean that I need to model one on my digital model. That is my artistic choice, in fact I have seen a lot more artist on these boards NOT model the genitalia on their models, have you called them out? Have you told them that their work is dumb because they did not put genitalia on their models? If so please point me to that post, because I would love to see what their reaction to you comment was.

Peace -NickZ.

[spaceboy412]

well he's nude, not with clothes, also i just don't see the point not going all the way, if someone didn't like it could always smooth it out or cover it as they did in the sistine chapel. i have no interest in changing your model, i have my own. and yes i did model her genitalia underneath, i also made teeth that were never seen. there are artists who paint over other paintings, does the painting underneath no longer have significance? and yes i have called out others on this, not always but i have. i realize its your choice i just do not understand the thought process behind it. peace.

[mikala]

Well poly count can sometimes come into play and the good ol "package" would be just extra geo so from that stand point no "package" makes perfect sense.

[Sav]

well he's nude, not with clothes, also i just don't see the point not going all the way, if someone didn't like it could always smooth it out or cover it as they did in the sistine chapel. i have no interest in changing your model, i have my own. and yes i did model her genitalia underneath, i also made teeth that were never seen. there are artists who paint over other paintings, does the painting underneath no longer have significance? and yes i have called out others on this, not always but i have. i realize its your choice i just do not understand the thought process behind it. peace.

I'm guessing because the model is intended as a base with unrestricted use, therefore 9.99999 times out of 10 the genitalia would have to be removed anyway to accommodate clothes etc.

[dustbin1_uk]

Shhhhh! Look at the model, ooooooooooooo!

[cooly08]

Thanks for this awesome sharing !

[gendragon]

Thanks very much Nick Zucarello!

Anderson Soares
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[raziel31]

[size=3]Thank you so much Nick Zucarello![/size]

[edgeart]

Great Model ***35874;***35874;***65281;

[nickz]

Thanks again for all the kind words! Here is something new that I am working on. I am taking my base mesh and trying to push it really far. When you bulk the model up this far it looks like the model needs to be taken to sub d level 6.

Also something that I discovered, if you take the model at its lowest sub d level and delete the higher sub d levels and then add new sub d levels back into the model you will end up with a nice and smooth model that has no detail in it. This makes it easier to take the mesh and turn it into what ever you want. I think that if you store a morph target on sub d level 5 before you do this, the morph target will stay and you can "paint/sculpt" back in ares with the morph brush if you like.



Peace-NickZ.

P.S. I'm using one if nerveinks' matcaps for this guy! Thanks for sharing the materials....very cool of you!

[calum5ZB]

Im just gratefull to have you share your hard work with us,excellent and on a personal note I agree about leaving the gens out.I hate seeing a bell end on screen,not required for most work but can be subtooled on if required lol.Cheers cal

[Bertmac]

Hi Nick, you made me see the light again, and i am very thankfull for that.
i cant express my self differrently, because i do not have words for this
just thank you.