Oz - update - Tin Man and Lion

[Slosh]

Anyone care to guess where I am going with this WIP??? I have never used a preliminary sketch for a project, but I thought this one would be complicated by the end, so I figured I needed some pre-planning.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023245349ylx.jpg

***I need some advice. Which Dorothy should I use? The original, or the "softer, kinder, less stressed out" Dorothy, as Stonecutter has suggested? Personally, I kinda like dorky Dorothy. She seems very much like a little farmgirl.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023324686zym.jpg

[Ron Harris]

well if I had the Courage to have a Heart and use my Brain I would say we are on our way to the Emerald city via the yellow brick road..... ;)

[Slosh]

And you would be right (of course) my friend! Here is the first head test for this image. It is little Dorothy. I'm probably going to do her hair much better, but as I said, this is a test shot.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023255392hmq.jpg

[drjjwow]

me want to follow the yellow brick road too..me loves it slosh.. cant wait to see this one.

[Slosh]

Well, here is another update. It's 4:00am here in Florida, so I think I will go to bed for now. Suggestions welcome, of course.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023263772syd.jpg

[Scougall]

this is awesome :) Terrific work so far. I cant wait to see the future updates!


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[Slosh]

OK, one more quicky. Darn, Zbrush is addictive. I am off work tomorrow, so I am letting myself stay up. Here is the head test for the Cowardly Lion.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023266225qpn.jpg

[aurick]

Dorothy was great, but the lion is fantastic! Wonderful modeling and texturing, both. :tu:

[Ron Harris]

I go to bed and wake up and the land of Oz is born during my slumber....great job Slosh...and my daughter is standing here and she said it looks kewl too :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Mentat7]

Slosh this is going to look awesome my friend! I can't wait to see the final pic! One word of advice concerning the Tin Man...don't make the metal too shiny. It's ok to give it specularity...just move the specularity graph over to the left so it isn't high gloss. If I remember correctly the Tin Man looked like he was made from muted tin. Great work!!!!

[Sunny]

Great work Slosh :tu: Looking forward to the seeing the tin man! :)

[Grub]

Good job Slosh, looking foward to your updates (love those eyes on dorothy) :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Belleski]

Beautiful so far Slosh...I predict many late nights on this one. :D

[Slosh]

Well, the Tin Man will be next, and thanks for the advanced suggestion Mentat. I would have to agree, if he is too shiny he would not fit in with the rest of the characters, either. After all, he is not the Silver Man or the Chrome Man. It's gonna be tricky, though.

[Stonecutter]

The piece is looking like it has great potential...I think Dorothy could use some work...She looks a little tired and aged to me, and could use some 'softening'..The lion however looks absolutely perfecto!!
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[Stargo]

Awesome work, Slosh :tu: :tu:
Looking forward to see your next update :)

stargo

[Stonecutter]

Well, it's your call dude, but I think your second one will work better. I think the first one wouldn't 'fit' as well with the lion for instance, and would cause what I call 'dissonance' in your finished piece...
The softer look will be easier to match to your other characters...
You have me intrigued with the quality of modelling and concept you've shown so far!
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[Belleski]

Slosh...add more freckles to the second, softer
Dorthy, make her a little happier looking, and 'You're off to see the Wizard'.
;) Cheers.

[Stonecutter]

Yep! Laurel is right on...
That's what you need, a freckle transplant!
Perfecto, B! ;) :tu:

[DeeVee]

Nice work, looking forward to the updates.

[juandel]

:eek: :eek: :eek: whoooah! thats a lovely start into a fantastico project, Brian! hey, you can exchange her looks at the very end as well, no need to do a casting like in hollywood inside the z! :D i LOVE the hair you did for the 2nd one!

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- juandel

[aurick]

I agree. With a few more freckles, the second one is the way to go. Looking good!

[Slosh]

Man, this is hard! Dorothy is coming along. I obviously have to add her ruby slippers, her hands, a basket of some sort, and there are seams to smooth and her shoulders need work, but what do you think so far? (Background is temporary of course)

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023417590iyt.jpg

[Stonecutter]

I think it's coming along great Slosh! :)
It looks like you got a composite of the two Dorothys in here...Whatever, it works! This is going to be fabulous, Bud!!
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[Belleski]

Super update Slosh...Dorthy looks great and I rather like that Bg too! Keep up the good work and follow the yellow brick road!!
Cheers. :)

[banez]

as Dorothy was Riding Her Bike.
Look! Mom No Hands

[Mentat7]

This is coming along famously Slosh! I eagerly await the next update!!

[[EA]Krippler]

this i can see is going to be a very worth while image. keep going slosh. your doing great

[Ron Harris]

this is going to be an excellant image.....very well modelled and lit..... :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

[thelonious]

great dorothy, however it looks a little morbid without her hands. sort of like she's just been attacked by the that chainsaw chap.

[MrBraun]

Good work Slosh !!! Good modeling and texturing!! Very very well !!!!
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[Q-qeo]

Looks great to me.... :tu: :tu:

[ztevie-rae]

Exellent work Brian !!!
Looks like it all comming together,welldone!

Stevie-rae. ;) :tu:

[Slosh]

OK, here is another update. I haven't yet decided whether to give Tinny a human-like face, or something more mechanical. I know we are all accustomed to the Jack Haley version from the movie, but I'm thinking Frank L. Baum had another idea. 121 always welcome.

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023576445eca.jpg

[Stonecutter]

I'm probably one of the few people on earth who has never seen the Wizard Of Oz, so I'm wide open to anything you come up with!!
And this guy already looks good with the beginning of the texture you've showed..

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[Slosh]

Never seen the Wizard of Oz? Your bio says you are from British Columbia, but last time I checked, that was still on this planet. LOL...You are the one who mentioned being mindful of the Tin Man's specularity. How do you think I did? BTW, he is finished now, I just didn't want to post yet another update. I will wait until after the next character is finished. Lion is next, I think.

[Stonecutter]

Well, Brian, this should really freak you out...
The last movie I saw in a theatre was Dustin Hoffman, in 'Straw Dogs' and it pissed me off so much I never went back! :D

(And I think it was somebody else who mentioned the specularity, but in my opinion, this is perfect...You don't want him looking like chrome, but you also don't want him looking like galvanized metal either... ;) )

[Slosh]

Oops, you are correct. It was Lonnie that mentioned the specularity. :rolleyes:

Was it the movie "Straw Dogs" that pissed you off, or the theater experience?

[Stonecutter]

It was the movie...The guy was a dink... ;)
Sicilian blood, what can I say, Dude?

[sTiNg]

Great update Slosh, Looking forward to see the next update...... or will it be the final image? ;)

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[Slosh]

The final image is a long way off, I think. I'm not as good at whipping out images as some members, so each character is taking a long, long time. But here is my last update for the night. The Tin Man is finished, and The Cowardly Lion has been added. Next step, The Scarecrow. (Ironic that he was the first of Dorothy's friends, and the last one for me to work on).

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1023606407iza.jpg

Of course, everybody needs hands, but mine are going to come at the very end, because I am not looking forward to it at all. :td:

[Stonecutter]

All three of these characters are great, and take it from me...It's best to take all the time it requires, rather than rushing it...
You'll produce the best possible result, and learn all kinds of new things along the way...
A wonderful process to watch, and already impressive results...I really like the lion, I have from the start, but the tin man and Dorothy are all consistent with him in quality...Fine work! :)

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If I was to offer a 121, it would be to shorten the tin mans' torso a bit, and lengthen his legs...I think the proportining would work better... ;)

[banez]

yeah lengthen his legs and add her little dog
toeTull.
bad spelling i know LOL ToeToe.
great image :tu: :tu:

[Sunny]

Wow!!! Great Tin man, in fact all their faces have great character. Excellent :tu: Maybe you did the Lion first for the courage to do this project! The tin man second for some heart to continue and now you need the brains to complete the dreaded HANDS !!!! :D

[Ron Harris]

love the progress Slosh..this project is coming right along nicely for you :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: When you get the hands working for you be sure to give us some tips....Lord knows I need em :tu: :tu:

[robotalk]

Man !!!what a beauty of a work -- :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: Just GREAT !! :tu: :tu: