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ed_the_atom
05-05-01, 02:49 AM
Hi ZuZu...

In relation to my problem encountered with objects and grouping:

In DOCUMENT I changed width and height to 2000x2000.....approx 2mins later a dark highly rendered sphere appeared in the document window, then much hard disk activity 2mins worth....2 too 3mins later after pressing 'T' I was able to edit the sphere.
The odd thing is I never placed the sphere in the document...in this particular startup of ZBrush. THe sphere took up one mother of a load of memory at 2000x2000.......took at least 3mins to clear the document. Normally I work in default doc size, or 1000x1000...as far as I know. Peculiar as this unexplained (to me anyway) sphere is, I was more surprised to encounter it again on another computer which I have been using to try and understand my ZBrush problem. Again I never, in this new discovery, placed the sphere in the document. Until this time I have never seen the sphere before, and it didn't show when I let the document load in default size.

Now as I have stated in another post...I may not understand the DOCUMENT as well as I should. Is this sphere a result of a previous ZBrush session that has become a document template that is now loaded on start up? Or am I on another planet?

Since clearing the document(s) both computers now will import two DFX files and group them.

Maybe I'm losin' me mind.

Thanks......

As an aside...
In my experiments for choosing which of my computers to finally run ZBrush on I have finally chosen A pentiuum III 500 with an 8meg video card, interface win98. One pentium III 933mhz with WinME, 16meg video card...slower running ZBrush than the aforementioned computer.

Another pentium III 933 with 11meg shared video memory.....well at 2000x2000 doc size.........don't even bother running ZBrush. Shared video memory at that resolution appears to have destroyed that computer....first it laboured for about 5mins......hung for a while.....screen went blank....after 3mins I turned it off. Waited the obligatory 3mins turned it back on.....lot of disk activity , but only black screen.......waited turned it off. Turned it back on Got WinME startup screen......lot of disk activity.......screen went blank.....1 min later screen on again, but at different resolution. The the computer started searching for new hardware.......found none, then crashed. At presentI haven't managed to get it going. Now normally memory is cleared after the computer is left off, in this case that doesn't appear to have happened.
I ran Zbrush on each computer in a 'clean' environment. Now I'm searching for an axe.

s o u t h e r n
05-05-01, 03:51 AM
Hi Gurgler,

I can`t answer all your questions but I can tell you how I stop some of the issues arising.

I am woking on some big projects with images 3000x4000 and bigger. The first big mistake I made was to `model` in documents of this size.

As most of my complex models start out as a sphere I usually open a document 800x800 (in fact I have a document of this size saved as a template)and model everything in that. When I set the HDIV and VDIV to maximum as I do with all models this size of document doesn`t slow things down.

Even with my new machine if I model much in a document 3000x3000 thing get slow and un-responsive.

See you later,

SOUTHERN

Kruzr
05-05-01, 09:26 AM
Hi Gurgler.....Southern's right-on!!! When I first start my project, I start in (600 by 600) or (800 by 800), do all my modeling & place all my completed objects where I want them (using Markers), saving them as I go along. When I'm ready to finish my project, I reload the scene & bump-up the resolution to at least (2000 by 2000), clear all layers, then re-load all my saved objects & finish my project. Doing things in this way lets you move objects around in the lower resolution without the big strain on your system & after you re-load all your objects at the higher resolution, you'll get the finished image with the sharp edges you desire. :) Have a good one..... :cool: Mark.

ed_the_atom
05-06-01, 04:20 AM
Thanks Southern and Kruzr...I shall follow instructions.