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DeeVee
04-22-02, 10:53 PM
This is the first time I did an image at 3 times the normal size and then reduced it. I cannot imagine what I have been missing. This is my first image using this method.

cameyo
04-22-02, 11:28 PM
Hi DeeVee,
where is that bird?
Is it flying over your island?
REAL!!!

cameyo

Caliban Tiresias Darklock
04-22-02, 11:47 PM
Damn, Deevee..... is that a photograph? Is any of it a photograph? That's just phenomenal!!!

robotalk
04-23-02, 12:12 AM
Yes --if this is your ZBrush work and not -"Live" out my window ..that is astounding --your best ever!

Nova
04-23-02, 12:35 AM
Zoooinks :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Superfantacitmarvelousastounding!!!!

Wow! Need I say more? :D

drjjwow
04-23-02, 12:44 AM
super dee dooper. image deevee

Mik
04-23-02, 02:11 AM
Come on now, you can tell us, its a webcam pic.......isn't it?
:tu: x 100000

DM
04-23-02, 02:16 AM
Wow, that's fantastic DeeVee. Astoundingly realistic and amazingly skillfull work. :eek: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

sTiNg
04-23-02, 02:24 AM
!!!!WoW!!!! This is one great pic!!!
:eek: :eek: :tu: :tu: :eek: :eek:

Ron Harris
04-23-02, 03:59 AM
I am away for one day Joe and almost missed this....geeeezzzus...this is to date the best image you have produced...."to me" it's totally different than any other piece you have produced in the past since I have been here....ya have to let us in on what all you did or rather what all clicked with you to be able to come up with this outstanding image....totally photo realistic for sure...
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jibberish
04-23-02, 04:25 AM
is that a Z-edited photo or is all all Z? If it's all Z, i think i'll have to strap my jaw shut to look normal. this is amazing. one of, if not the best, Z-paintings i've seen. this is totally amazing...i'm dumbfounded.

jodh

Gerlon
04-23-02, 04:46 AM
Are you sure that isn't real!?!?!? Seriously I can't tell the difference, it looks just like a photograph! :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

WingedOne
04-23-02, 05:04 AM
:eek: :eek: Great Googly Mooglie! Awsome work Deevee. :eek: :eek:

gRek
04-23-02, 05:38 AM
simple amazing man! WOW! :eek: :tu:

Digits
04-23-02, 06:11 AM
Just got to say that this is a masterpiece Doc! Now that you have discovered hi-resolution I can only guess where you are to go from here with all the beauty of nature that surrounds you.

DeeVee
04-23-02, 06:59 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I have already posted information on how I go about producing my serious images.I will repeat it for the Thomas's amongst us. I take a lot of photographs, then I decide which combination of photos I am going to base my image on. I draw it and when I am satisfied with the drawing I scan the image in. Then it is just a matter of painting in the drawing, I use a fairly small brush. The main departure from my normal paintings is that I magnify the drawing by three times the normal.
Since joining this forum I have always heard members say that they did their image at a large resolution then reduced it, I have never done that so I decided to try it and the results have surprised me. To the Thomas's give it a try you might just surprise yourself.

filament9
04-23-02, 07:01 AM
Great, simply great work! That's all I'm gonna say.

banez
04-23-02, 07:14 AM
it looks REAL :tu:

Mentat7
04-23-02, 07:32 AM
As I have already told you in a private message this is the BEST Z-picture posted here in the forum or the galleries!! Congratulations on a job well done! Now of course I WANT MORE!! :D See what you went and done?? I am curious...do you by chance paint in oils or acrylics and sell them? If not you should. I know people who would love to have a painting like this hanging on their wall. Thank you for sharing Joe. I feel awed and just a little insignificant (in a good sort of way) ;)
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juandel
04-23-02, 07:40 AM
EXCELLENTO, Joe! :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: and so on... incredible z-realism and a true masterpiece. the sula sula should be very proud to have been depicted in such a zooper way by the z-painting master!!!

- juandel

wenna
04-23-02, 07:40 AM
That is one serious piece of art! All the detail is magnificent!! I've been staring at it for 10 mins.. and I think I could stare at it a little longer too.. :) Fantastic!!!!

DeeVee
04-23-02, 07:48 AM
Mr. M7, It must have been posted before you joined the forum but I did post that I did a lot of painting in oils and acrylics some time ago. I also pointed out that as a youngster I did obtain a few certificates in drawing and painting from the London School of Arts. That was a very long time ago, when I attended school on the island of Antigua. I also took numerous courses in painting from various visiting artiste. I stopped painting until I acquired ZBrush, as I was concentrating on my jewelry design and manufacturing, and doing a little consultancy on High Tech. Agriculture.

Codexus
04-23-02, 07:49 AM
:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: oh, I give up. I can't put enough :tu: to do justice to this image. A ZMasterpiece for sure. photorealistic, beautiful. :D :D

Mentat7
04-23-02, 07:56 AM
I'm not worthy...I'm not worthy...London School of Arts huh? I think I am just a little jealous now too... :) I think the title GrandMasterDV has been earned Joe! ;) :D :D

Ron Harris
04-23-02, 08:03 AM
Joe I had to say one more time...awesome...this is on my wallpaper now....gonna show this beauty off big time....and I wanted to make the other members also aware that you use a MOUSE and not a digital tablet to do your paintings with.....I can hardly wait to see what happens when you do decide to get a tablet.....coz I say again..this is the best painting I have seen on ZBC.... :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: infinty.....

Bamboo
04-23-02, 08:07 AM
Wow, I'm stunned, this is truly one of the most amazing z-pix i have ever seen; incredible work :tu:
Were the leaves originally 3d models, or is the whole picture painted?

DeeVee
04-23-02, 08:12 AM
M7 no need to be, that was such a long time ago maybe before you were born :D but the interest has been reinforced. When you go to medical school you have to do Histology, and in that course you have to draw what you see under the microscope, you very quickly learn that that better you draw and colour the higher will be the mark you receive.
These things are drilled into you, and though dormant for years a program like ZBrush draws it out once the awe of the program has passed, you just fall back to your strengths.

Mentat7
04-23-02, 08:26 AM
Well Dr Joe your are 65 and I am 38 and you said you learned this a long time ago...so my best guess is that indeed I was not born yet when you were learning the finer skills of drawing and painting. :D I feel just a leetle-beet jealous because when I was younger I wanted to go to art school. It never happened because I wound up going to college in Japan when my Father got sent there on a four year job for his company. Now I am a buyer for a national dairy company and a part time (ahem...cough) "artist". I never had the opportunity to develop my skills outside of day to day dabbling. So I say if this wonderful software has brought out the brilliance in you once again then more power to it baby! At least I can live vicariously through you! ;)

Belleski
04-23-02, 09:27 AM
Wow DeeVee :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Thanks for showing us what is possible with
Zbrush and natural talent. Beautiful...love the colours and the texture of the feathers.
Can almost feel the gentle breeze that is rippling those feathers. Feels good. :)

impending
04-23-02, 10:33 AM
:tu: :tu: :tu: DeeVee :tu: :tu: :tu:

I'm flabbergasted, absolutely marvelous !
Encore, Encore !!

Now that you are working in higher resolutions . . . . just wait till you try the fiber brush which you love so dearly, it too will be night & day

Most excellent !!!

jd

Stonecutter
04-23-02, 10:41 AM
Very nice Joe...An entirely new style for you, and executed perfectly! How about a request...? I have a conch shell in my studio that I brought back in my luggage from Crooked Island in the Bahamas, and I've always wanted to see how the animal and shell worked together in the wild...Any chance you could do a conch? :)
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DeeVee
04-23-02, 11:06 AM
Thanks SC. Once you have a method of painting or modeling fixed in your mind, it does not help to repeatedly do the same thing. You have to try other ideas. Youself, Kathy, Aurick, Digits, Ron, Mentat and numerous others have worked at high resolutions then exported the image and then imported the reduced size, I had never done that, a few days ago I decided to try it and it has been an eye opener. Especially since I use a mouse only.
I hope to be in the States early next month and a tablet is top of my long list, even ahead of Marva's wish list.
I will try the conch shell. Did you eat the conch ?

Stonecutter
04-23-02, 11:17 AM
You bet I ate Conch, but not that particular one...There is a beach on Crooked Island that seems to run forever. There is seldom any wave action, but there had been a storm far out at sea, and we played in the surf all day, without seeing a soul...As we walked back I found this perfect conch shell, as well as a couple of sea-fan coral branches...We put them in our luggage when we were leaving, without even thinking it was illegal to carry these into Canada...Blame it on Carribean laid-back attitudes.
Since we put it into the suitcase with our laundry, and a jar of cocoa butter, when we reached customs in Canada, the cocoa butter had lost its top, and you had dirty laundry, warm cocoa butter, and sea smell...

They waved us through expeditiously, having absolutely no desire to check that bag! ;) :D

The sea fans are mounted on the cabin side of the 'Midnight Wind', and the Conch shell is in my studio, awaiting conversion to a large cameo-carved shell...

Incidentally, the only people we met all day on that beach were Canadians who owned the houses along this beach!

aurick
04-23-02, 12:13 PM
Thank you, Stonecutter, for giving me a serious case of the giggles. The olfactory imagery that your story conjures just makes it that much funnier.

And DeeVee, thank you for posting this remarkable pic! I have to admit that I didn't say anything about this yesterday when I first saw it because I fell into the camp of the Thomases. Looking very closely at the image, there were a few places that I could pick out as being hand painted, but the majority of it looked so photorealistic as to be a photo. Kudos to you for showing just how real ZBrush can get!

Indigo Wizard
04-23-02, 01:40 PM
Beautiful, DeeVee- just georgeous.
I've not yet tried painting over an image in Z, but this encourages me to try it...Altho without the benefit of so much artistic background, I doubt I'll even come close to this level of realism.

IW

Kathy
04-23-02, 02:16 PM
:eek: :eek:
I've been visiting this piece all day, and finally made it my wallpaper. (easier staring)

Everyone here has already stolen my thoughts and words for this work.

DeeVee thank you for sharing such a wonderful work of art. :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

DeeVee
04-23-02, 02:52 PM
Check this one out. Done using the same tech. This is the 'West Indian Dove'.

Slosh
04-23-02, 02:59 PM
How can I possibly add to the praises given to you here? Both of these pics are truly, truly, incredible. I've loved everything I've seen you do, but this by far exceeds everything I've come to expect.

One question, though, that I have been wondering...How do you see your entire picture if you are working on such a large scale? Do you zoom out so you can work, or do you simply work a segment at a time?

Stonecutter
04-23-02, 03:01 PM
Beauty, Joe! :tu: :tu: :tu: :)
This is a great exploration you've embarked on, and these are incredible results!!!

Ron Harris
04-23-02, 03:11 PM
you churned out another beautiful winged masterpiece...jiminy....Joe you have definitely broken new ground...I have one request....besides adopting me.... :) could you make us a sample script to show what you are doing? coz you jumped a lightyear ahead of yourself with the program and I am in utter awe of both of these my friend....and everyone else is as well....cant wait to see what you produce next.....(these would be a good thing to send to the printer for prints) :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

DeeVee
04-23-02, 03:15 PM
I work on a segment at a time, starting with everything except the main object. I do that last. I also return to the normal view frequently. If I am doing a sky or a large area I do not move back to the normal view as often.

Slosh
04-23-02, 03:19 PM
Thanks, DeeVee. I think I get it. I may have to try it both ways. I don't know that my abilities to keep everything in scale will allow me to use a segment at a time. With practice, I'm sure.

DeeVee
04-23-02, 03:36 PM
Slosh, If you have a good drawing, and know what colours you are going to use it is not as difficult as it appears, what you will find out is that you will use the Picker quite a lot as well as the SmudgeBrush. At the high magnification it is almost like painting by numbers, give it a try, and post your results here.

Slosh
04-23-02, 09:36 PM
I will do that, DeeVee. My next project involves some architecture combined with wildlife...so we'll see. Could take awhile, but I will post WIPs.

Zoid
04-23-02, 09:44 PM
DeeVee, I really like these images. The first one reminds me of the Cormorants(sp?) that I saw on a trip to South America. They are beautiful birds but they have these big goofy orange feet. I like how the bird in the first image is gripping onto the branch with his flipper feet. Good stuff here :tu:

Grub
04-24-02, 04:01 AM
Fantastic work DeeVee :) :) :tu: :tu: , your images look almost photorealistic, brilliant!

juandel
04-24-02, 04:38 AM
the dove is another masterfully executed beauty and yes, i will try giving your method a try asap, DeeVee! :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

- juandel

thelonious
04-25-02, 06:15 AM
Hi Dee Vee,

I couldn't tell for certain what you meant in your description of how you go about your paintings from the photos. Do you mean that you get the photo and then do a drawing while looking at the photo and then scan the drawing. Or did you mean that the photo is traced?

Looking at the leaves in the booby picture I must say that if you have drawn the leaves while merely looking at a photo of leaves then it seems to be an astounding level of draughtmanship. Well done.

Azlan
04-25-02, 06:29 AM
That's INCREDIBLE with a capital INCREDIBLE. I don't know what the rest here aspire for but for myself I've always wanted to do a full blown animation comprised completely from computer generated art and not be able to tell the difference if it was real or a product of nothing more than my hand,s,knowledge and a few choice programs. Youv'e definately achieved the realistic look in this one. :tu: X 1000000

DeeVee
04-25-02, 01:46 PM
Mr. T, What I said is that I get several photos from which I compile an image. These are all drawn,when satisfied with the drawing it is then scaned, then painted. I hope that is clear enough.
If you did Histology at any time, you would not be surprised at the draughtsmanship, a bunch of leaves is very simple when compared to various tissues under a microscope. Plus as a Vet. and Agriculturist, observation and attention to detail are essential to success.

hitch
04-26-02, 01:38 AM
oh
my
god

those images has take your work to another level. Your images were fantastic before but now they are the work of a true master artist