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CDEdwards
04-20-01, 06:31 AM
This has been bugging me for quite some time. While modifying a tool, I have often wished that I could Size Y, Size Z, or Size YZ, but we only have Size XYZ, Size X, and Size XY. Why is that?
Rotate your object until you have the axis that you want then use the appropriate slider.
CDEdwards
04-20-01, 07:23 AM
:)
I figured out that that was the way to get around it, but I was just wondering why the other options were not included...
Pixolator
04-20-01, 11:12 AM
Hi CDEdwards,
You've raised a good point. Now, with ZBrushCentral available, this is a perfect opportunity to take advantage of this direct communication and put this decision to a vote.
I invite all ZBrush users to read the following and reply to this post with their choice...
As I see it, there are two logical choices:
Configuration A: 3 buttons: x, xy, xyz (the current configuration)
Configuration B: 5 buttons: x, y, z, xy, xyz (xz and yz are not very intuitive and are unlikely to be used often).
Configuration B would indeed add functionality, but would use more screen space. This is an important consideration especially for those using the 1024x768 screen resolution.
Tell me what you think. I'll tally the votes before the next ZBrush release, and implement the configuration preferred by the majority of members.
Thanks,
Pixolator
CDEdwards
04-20-01, 11:23 AM
How about something like...
X Y Z
<--->
Where you could select which axes to resize and then have a slider underneath to actually perform the resize.
Pixolator, I formally request Configuration B. That is, unless you could consider CDEdwards' suggestion, maybe Configuration C?
Thanks,
impending
04-20-01, 02:03 PM
Choice B gets my vote. Currently it may take multiple operations to resize depending on the initial orientation. To save real estate you could have "size" with a "modifier" box.
jd
Big-Loser Guy
04-22-01, 05:14 AM
If "configuration C" is an option, my vote goes towards that...otherwise, B.
Trying to rotate the object using Shift can be very irritating sometimes...
Pixolator
04-22-01, 06:10 AM
I have added the option suggested by CDEdwards as configuraton C :)
The updated options are...
Configuration A: 3 sliders: x, xy, xyz (the current configuration)
Configuration B: 5 sliders: x, y, z, xy, xyz (xz and yz are not very intuitive and are unlikely to be used often).
Configuration C: 3 buttons + 1 slider: x,y,z switch modifiers and one 'size' silder ( [x][y][z] + [<----0---->] )
Configuration D: Any of the above
Please post your vote below...
I vote for Configuration C. :)
'Morning Pixolator.....If using the "C" configuration - you would be able to select (X-Y-Z) buttons, would you also be able to select any combination of the three buttons (XY-XZ-YZ-XYZ)??? Meaning, you would still have only 3 buttons & 1 slider, but you could choose more than 1 button at the same time. If so, that's the choice I feel would be the most flexible. It would save space & you would have any single choice or any combination that exists. :) I vote for choice "C" Have Z good one..... :cool: Mark.
Configuration C, as Kruzr just described, would be perfect! That one gets my vote.
Thanks, Pixolator
Pixolator
04-22-01, 09:33 AM
Hi :),
Yes, any of the x,y,z combinations would work except the one combination in which all modifiers are off (ie. 7 valid combinations, 1 invalid).
CDEdwards
04-23-01, 07:39 AM
Option C is my choice. ;)
WingedOne
04-23-01, 08:07 AM
I vote for option C
Hey Pixolator. If you are changing the tools pallette, is there any chance you could make an option of being able to roll up or down the tool-icon selection box? (the set of tool icons at the top of the pallette)
I believe this wastes "screen-real-estate" when you have a number of hand-made tools in this pallette and then you unroll the deformation pallete, which is quite large and it often rolls up (especially when you hit the undo button!)
I have my 17" monitor set to 1152x864 and still don't have enough space. (but if the tool-icons were rolled up .... hmmm)
Pixolator
04-23-01, 07:18 PM
Hi upham :)
Scrollable palettes are one of the items that are considered for future revisions of ZBrush. In the next release however, there is a ‘Restore’ button in each of the List-palettes that allows hiding extra tools and keeping the active tool visible.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads0/user_image-988078688glu.gif
-Pixolator
Thats cool Pixelator. With the amounts of mistakes or experiments I make, the tool-icons pallette can take up to 1/3 to 1/2 of the height of my screen. I don't see why we need to see so many unused tools! When I want to fiddle around in the deformations, the damn thing is constantly closing itself (rolling itself up). This is very annoying.
Just shooting ideas again. Maybe the tool selection box could be just the large tool icon that pops up the window of small tool-icons (as it currently does) and maybe there could also be a text-name selection box that you select your tool by name, via a roll-out. Also a text-input box where you could name your tool (head, eye, tooth, etc).
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads0/user_image-988084755ebj.jpg
And to sound - R E A L L Y- annoying, :eek: - is there any chance some of the tool-icons could be changed because they are so similar (ie, the hook & Bump brushes, the cone3d & Sweep Profile, and the cylinder & Sphereinder tool - (sphereinder = "capsule"))
I realise you are busy with the realease of version 1.23, so hopefully these idea will resurface in the future.
Sorry to sound like a pest.
Upham . :)
Pixolator
05-13-01, 01:26 PM
:b3: :b3: :b3: LAST CALL :b3: :b3: :b3:
In 2 days this thread will be closed, votes will be counted and the chosen option will be implemented.
These are the choices…
Configuration A: 3 sliders: x, xy, xyz (the current configuration)
Configuration B: 5 sliders: x, y, z, xy, xyz (xz and yz are not very intuitive and are unlikely to be used often).
Configuration C: 3 buttons + 1 slider: x,y,z switch modifiers and one 'size' silder ( [x][y][z] + [<----0---->] )
Configuration D: Any of the above
-Pixolator
P.S. There are other good ideas in this thread and they will be revisited following the release of 1.23 (a release date will be posted within few days) .
A l m a r K
05-13-01, 03:04 PM
C for me
C, Thank you for asking :)
:b2:C :b2:
Oops, I already voted. Hehheh. Well, seeing as I cannot delete this post--It'll have to stay.
Pixolator
05-16-01, 12:19 AM
:b3: :b3: :b3: Voting session completed :b3: :b3: :b3:
It is clear the option C is the winner in this vote and it will be implemented in 1.23
I will post more info when the work on this is completed.
Thank you all for participating!
-Pixolator
C.
(Look ma! No hanging chad!)
C.
(Look ma! No hanging chad!)
:D
Pixolator
05-16-01, 05:00 AM
:D :D :D
By popular votes, C is the clear winner!.
There will be NO RECOUNT OF VOTES :)
Crisilla
05-16-01, 12:30 PM
Hi I vote for c!
the easier the better!
WingedOne
03-05-02, 11:41 AM
Ummm. This has already been implemented a while ago. :rolleyes:
Mentat7
03-05-02, 12:04 PM
LOL!!!!
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