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Support
09-16-09, 10:41 AM
maxinkuk,
You need to open a ticket with customer support at: support.pixologic.com
badassembly
09-16-09, 10:43 AM
Still? Check your Support Center account. Make sure that your Cleverbridge & other info are all okay. If it's not, fix it. That could be why you don't have it yet.
I'd also check out your spam or trash folders in your e-mail. The upgrade link could be in there for all you know.
If your support info checks out okay and it's not in spam/trash, well, you should have already should have received your upgrade e-mail. At least that's my guess.
IIRC, we were told that we shouldn't start sending in support tickets about the upgrade e-mail until 2 or 3 days after they started going out. That period of time has elapsed. I'd probably send in a ticket and try to sort it all out.I wish it were that simple. All of my info is up-to-date and I've submitted 2 support tickets already but not been responded to at all. I even called them and asked what was going on, but they basically just said sorry you have to wait. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of purchasing Zbrush for PC on the day it came out which put me on some sort of list, just not the automatic update list. Therefore, my fait is in the hands of someone manually sending out the upgrade information, at least, that's how it was explained to me on the phone.
I'm so tired of furiously checking my emails ( its been 4 days now ) that I might just call and cancel my order. I already own Zbrush for Mac, I thought I'd be a good consumer and pay twice the price for the PC version because I work on both Mac & PC. At this rate, I'' get the OSX version before PC.
maxinkuk
09-16-09, 11:34 AM
Hi Support, do you refer to the reply I received yesterday or are you suggesting I submit another ticket? Because that reply to my ticket that I received yesterday says that I should not submit more tickets.
Then it says "bear with us" but doesn't say for how long.
maxinkuk
09-16-09, 12:39 PM
Badassembly, you're assuming that you didn't receive it because you just bought it instead of being an existing PC licence owner.
I didn't buy it now, I'm a PC user that bought it over 2 years ago, I only registered with support on 29th August though, and only because it was announced that it was through them that the upgrade was delivered but I can think of no reason as to why that should be a problem.
In fact no explanation is given as to why our addresses were not in the automatic list.
And there shouldn't be a reason why they shouldn't be able to send an automatic email to all those on the support register now, why is it done manually?
BAR-CODE
09-16-09, 03:23 PM
So what went wrong .. im still waiting for teh initial EMAIL for 3.5
and its already at 3.5R2 ...
So why am i still waiting for a link email ..
Whats up with this...
Chris
badassembly
09-16-09, 04:53 PM
Sounds like they need to revolutionize their software release workflow. Can we get a zspheres equivalent to upgrade delivery? :P
We are working to get upgrade links sent out to everyone. A small percentage of upgrades are having to be handled manually because for one reason or other they were not able to be included in the initial batch of automatic emails or because they did not receive that initial upgrade email.
This sort of thing could have happened for a number of reasons. For example:
The purchase was made a few days before the launch of ZBrush 3.5, and so couldn't be included in the initial mailing from Cleverbridge.
The purchase was made using an email address that is no longer in use. (This is why we announced in mid-August that people should make sure that Cleverbridge had their current email address.)
The purchase was actually for a Mac license and so isn't eligible for the PC upgrade. (Temporary PC licenses that were given before version 3.12 released are not able to be upgraded. We're working on the Mac version of 3.5 now and will upgrade you when it comes out.)
Computer glitch that somehow left you off the list. It doesn't prevent you from upgrading; it just meant that we have to handle the upgrade manually.
Regardless of the cause, we are working very hard to get everyone upgraded as quickly as possible. If you purchased a PC license and have not yet received your upgrade, simply submit a support ticket. Multiple tickets won't speed things up. In fact, they slow down our ability to respond. We will get you upgraded as quickly as possible. In the case of someone who forgot to update their email address with Cleverbridge, we can usually get the upgrade link sent very, very quickly. I have sent a large number of these out myself in the last several days. (A small percentage of the total user base is still a pretty hefty number!) Ones that got missed for another reason may take longer. But we are all working overtime to take care of our customers as quickly as we possibly can.
I hope that helps a bit! :)
badassembly
09-16-09, 05:25 PM
I just got my email. I hope you get yours soon!
Ares1979
09-17-09, 01:39 AM
i know its because i purchased zb 3.1 on friday so thats why
cool mate.
i understand now
MatrixNAN
09-17-09, 02:44 AM
Hey Tony,
Great Job Tony truely awesome work. I don't have a Mac so I was not going to be any help on that one. I am not having the same problems as you for ZBrush 3.5 on Linux Ubuntu 9.04 except for the not accessing all of my ram part. I wonder if your other problems with ZB 3.5 on the Mac has to do with the configuration of wine. ZBrush 3.5 seems to only be accessing around at max 3.0 GB when I have 12 GB in my system. I was also running a system monitor on it, and it was not really taxing my 8 cores all that much.
Most of the time they were sitting at around 30%. I will have to see if I get the same problem in Windows. I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that its 32 bit program. I know 32 bit is suppose to max at 3.0 GB of ram due to lack of bits to calculate the higher numbers for the larger amounts of ram. I am curious, does your ZB 3.5 max out at 3.0 GB on your Mac wine?
Cheers,
Nate Nesler
@phatene: :D
zb35ondarwine.jpg
I got it to run with Darwine and web activation.
I ran into a problem where when launching ZBrush complained about not being able to open files at "Z:\APPLICATIONS\DARWINE\WINEHELPER.APP\CONTENT\RES OURCES/ZResources\Images/"
Turns out you have to run wine from the directory in which you "installed" the ZBrush executable. So in terminal you have to cd to that directory and then run wine from Darwine's Wine.bundle. So once you're in the directory run "/Applications/Darwine/Wine.bundle/Contents/bin/wine ZBrush.exe"
To do web activation you have to grab the activation request code from an email activation request and then build the appropriate URL and plug that in your browser.
Also, I ran into a problem with ZBrush not being able to write to a Tempfiles directory under ZStartup even though everything had read and write permissions so I just created the directory and it seemed to be okay.
Just messed around with it so far, but after a slow startup it seems pretty peppy. The only issues I've run into so far are:
Lightbox doesn't work
Command key functions as Alt key. I didn't see a way to change this.
Resizing the window screws keyboard input.
All my memory doesn't seem to be recognized.
Obviously not the preferred way to go about it but if you have a Windows license and Mac and can't wait for the Mac version, it can be done. :D
This is only if you PAID for a permanent Windows license, not if you received a temporary Windows license while waiting for ZBrush 3 for the Mac.
BAR-CODE
09-17-09, 05:59 AM
Credits to the TEAM .. i put in a support ticked yesterday..
And today i got the Email with the link etc etc...
So im a Happy camper...
THNX !
Chris aka Bar-code
fearnight2000
09-17-09, 08:29 AM
Hello.
I just got my hand on Zbrush 3.5.
I noticed that the noise (before being aplied to the mesh) has a different size on diferent models, even with the smallest value in the scale =1.
I tried this on the polysphere, where the noise could become increadibly small, but when i tried this on the male head model the size was a lot larger (in both examples the scale value was set to minimun 1).
Why is this happening?
Thanks in advanced
One thing that I really need to stress here:
A significant percentage of the support tickets we've been dealing with over the last several days would have been avoided if the artist had simply read the documentation.
For example, we get a lot of support tickets (and forum posts) from people who complain that they upgraded and now when they go to download again they're getting a "page invalid" message. Yet the text immediately below that link explains the reason!
That email also states that after upgrading you need to create a Support account, or update your existing account. We need this info to help you efficiently. Yet most people haven't done it.
We have even had more than a few cases where someone clicked the upgrade link, clicked past the page where you can edit your information, clicked past the verification page where you make sure everything is right -- and then wonder why the system has their email address wrong and they can't activate.
In the download itself, right next to the ZBrush 3.5R2 folder there's also a PDF named "READ ME FIRST". It tells how to install, how to fix the most common error messages, and again stresses the need to register your Support account. Yet we still get many, many tickets from people who have done none of those things.
My point in bringing this up is that a lot of the issues that people are encountering are preventable. We have put considerable thought into every line of text that we provide during the upgrade and installation process, trying to be as proactive as possible. Unfortunately, that all goes to waste if nobody reads it.
Please help us help you! :)
Are the e5 customers in the group still waiting? As long as I've been a user, it's surprising I never seem to be in their system.
Are the e5 customers in the group still waiting? As long as I've been a user, it's surprising I never seem to be in their system.
Anyone who has not yet received their upgrade link should submit a support ticket. Thanks.
pierregagne98@hotmail.com
09-17-09, 06:52 PM
3.1 plugins are incompatible with 3.5R2.
So do not uninstall 3.1 right away if like me you need to finish up some work in with a workflow you're used to:confused:
My point in bringing this up is that a lot of the issues that people are encountering are preventable. We have put considerable thought into every line of text that we provide during the upgrade and installation process, trying to be as proactive as possible. Unfortunately, that all goes to waste if nobody reads it.
I think someone needs a hug after all the long days he's been putting in . . . :D
TonyEdwards
09-18-09, 03:27 PM
Hey Tony,
Great Job Tony truely awesome work. I don't have a Mac so I was not going to be any help on that one. I am not having the same problems as you for ZBrush 3.5 on Linux Ubuntu 9.04 except for the not accessing all of my ram part. I wonder if your other problems with ZB 3.5 on the Mac has to do with the configuration of wine. ZBrush 3.5 seems to only be accessing around at max 3.0 GB when I have 12 GB in my system. I was also running a system monitor on it, and it was not really taxing my 8 cores all that much.
Most of the time they were sitting at around 30%. I will have to see if I get the same problem in Windows. I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that its 32 bit program. I know 32 bit is suppose to max at 3.0 GB of ram due to lack of bits to calculate the higher numbers for the larger amounts of ram. I am curious, does your ZB 3.5 max out at 3.0 GB on your Mac wine?
Cheers,
Nate Nesler
Thanks. You're probably right about the other issues being related to wine configuration.
Regarding not accessing RAM, I'm just going by what ZBrush has listed at the top and could be reading it wrong. Its says ~1600 which I'm assuming is 1.6GB and when I run 3.2 natively on OS X it says ~3000. I have 4GB of RAM in my system.
I'd guess that you're right about the fact that it is a 32 bit app though and that's why it doesn't see all your RAM.
electricCAT
09-22-09, 03:54 PM
I noticed the message for Mac users has changed from "Available end of Sept" to "release date will be posted when available"
Doesn't sound good.
battery555
09-27-09, 08:07 PM
Any news for MAC version yet? I searched the pixo web and couldn't find any information on MAC update. Can someone kind enough to point me to the right URL? Thanks in advance
Morbius
09-28-09, 01:11 PM
No, no news yet on the Mac 3.5.
I know they were originally saying 'end of Sept.', but that's apparently changed now.
Not complaining here, Moderator guys, but just wondering. Do we have even a rough estimate perhaps, or is it too 'up in the air' at this point.
Do you know if it will be this year? Not being facetious.
Any info would be appreciated!
Thanks!!
Mr.Storm
09-28-09, 01:21 PM
I wonder if 3.5 will be 64bit for mac or if 4.0 will be 64bit for mac?
That might take them longer to do but Zbrush has been busting booty for the mac people...
and I love them for that.
Thank you very much ZBRUSH people
And I have a cute 18 year old daughter for one of you guys if need be :-)
This is just a cheap scam to get a inside person at pixo.
Yeah I know.... It's genus's
Yeah, any tiny bytes of news on the mac version would be very gentle! :)
I've seen 3.5 on a PC of a friend and it is delicious!
great work pixo!
I've seen that mac people aren't complaining at all!
congratulations to you all for being virtuous on patience, including myself ;)
greetings pixo
any infos welcome!
r.
Morbius
09-28-09, 04:12 PM
Zbrush has been busting booty for the mac people...
and I love them for that.
Thank you very much ZBRUSH people
I've seen that mac people aren't complaining at all!
congratulations to you all for being virtuous on patience, including myself ;)
any infos welcome!
Yes! On both counts!! :D
I can't begin to tell you how pleased I have been recently with Pixo! The Mac community certainly had some problems for a year or so, but things have really turned around, and Pixo has made good on it's promises so far!!
It's wonderful! And still getting v3.5 AND v4 FREE is icing on the cake!
It's a lot easier to 'wait' when you know they're following up on their promises and keeping their word.
Thanks Pixo!! :cool:
battery555
09-29-09, 06:56 AM
Hi Morbius, where did you find the page stated the change? Thanks.
I installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86), now it works with windows7 nicely.
surfeur
10-01-09, 10:18 AM
congratulations for zbrush 3.5 for pc. And what for mac os X? Can you tell us if it's a question of days , months,years or more again?
you don't like mac users?Thanks.
It has nothing to do with dislikeing Mac users, I'm sure. Just like every other application out there, they take care of the majority of the userbase first, and then takes care of the rest.
Its not like this is the first (and I'm sure won't be the last) time a Mac version is released later on.
And its also not like you don't already know this answer either.
khalavi
10-01-09, 10:50 AM
Having some major issues with displacement in maya 2009 from Zbrush 3.5 R2... I have tried all techniques and the artifacting does'nt stop.
Hey, maybe you guys will luck out and can skip 3.5 completely if 4 comes out in the next few weeks. :)
Morbius
10-01-09, 03:27 PM
Hey, maybe you guys will luck out and can skip 3.5 completely if 4 comes out in the next few weeks. :)
May be. Hard to tell.
They're being 'silent' again, but that's okay......
:D
Just popped in to see f there was any news of the Mac version yet. No problem. Will wait.
Cheers
Mike R
battery555
10-02-09, 01:46 AM
Without any news or date set just kill the hope :(
Morbius
10-02-09, 08:43 AM
Without any news or date set just kill the hope :(
Nah.... They'll deliver!
They've BEEN delivering on all their promises, and even a lot of functions that never existed before like GoZ, and ZSpheres2, and PaintStop, and, and......
They'll come through! Just hang tight!
:D
Morbius
10-02-09, 12:05 PM
HANG TIGHT?? We still don't have the trial version, and the "available soon" has been there for years now! How can you budget for purchases when they give no timeline??? The very LEAST they could do is lower the Mac price on the older version. I see NO reason why we should be paying the same price for fewer features.
Ah well.....
I bought ZBrush for Mac back when it was v2, and had to wait a looooooong time for v3.1, and then 3.2 with GoZ came along, and even so, v3.5 and v4 will be free to me! What do I have to complain about?
It is clear (to me at least) that they are serious about supporting their Mac base, and I think they're doing a great job. I'm still learning the blessed thing anyway - with the limited time I have - so whenever they get around to 3.5 and 4 will be fine with me.
I know they'll deliver. It may not be when WE want, but I'm sure they're working as fast as they can to get it to us.
As for budgeting, did you miss this part??
Screen shot 2009-10-02 at 11.12.18 AM.jpg
If you don't already own ZBrush, it'll obviously cost you the regular retail price!
perpetumdesign
10-02-09, 12:57 PM
Ah well.....
I bought ZBrush for Mac back when it was v2, and had to wait a looooooong time for v3.1, and then 3.2 with GoZ came along, and even so, v3.5 and v4 will be free to me! What do I have to complain about?
OK, you bought your copy without actually trying it, but the rest of us still wait for the VERY FIRST demo version for Mac EVER. Is it too much to ask to try the software before I buy it ?
As for budgeting, did you miss this part??
If you don't already own ZBrush, it'll obviously cost you the regular retail price!
Hey it is not about the money, it is clear he will pay the retail price, but he (probably - at least this is my case) don't want to install old version that becomes obsolete in (hopefully) few weeks and will have to learn the differences. It is good to know when you'll have to fork the money.
Richard Marklew
10-02-09, 01:05 PM
Hey it is not about the money, it is clear he will pay the retail price, but he (probably - at least this is my case) don't want to install old version that becomes obsolete in (hopefully) few weeks and will have to learn the differences. It is good to know when you'll have to fork the money.
A lot of the functional changes that have been made between version 3.1 and 3.5 for windows are already inside 3.2 for the mac so I don't see any real learning changes once 3.5 comes out. It will be mainly additional functionality like zspheres2.
Richard
perpetumdesign
10-02-09, 01:10 PM
A lot of the functional changes that have been made between version 3.1 and 3.5 for windows are already inside 3.2 for the mac so I don't see any real learning changes once 3.5 comes out. It will be mainly additional functionality like zspheres2.
Richard
OK, thanks for info. I'd settle for 3.12 then, but I'd still want a demo version before I buy ? That "Coming soon" label is really getting old.
InLoveVania
10-02-09, 02:48 PM
Omggg
Morbius
10-02-09, 04:30 PM
OK, you bought your copy without actually trying it, but the rest of us still wait for the VERY FIRST demo version for Mac EVER. Is it too much to ask to try the software before I buy it ?
I understand, but that wasn't clear in 'caffeineandpixels' post.
And yes, I bought without a demo. I'd seen enough of what ZBrush could do without needing to demo it.
3.2 runs very nicely on a Mac.
:D
M i c h e l
10-03-09, 06:10 PM
For Mac people I run ZBrush 3.5 under MAC 10.5.8 and Parallels Desktop and it works well enough to discover this gem.
Richard Marklew
10-03-09, 06:19 PM
For Mac people I run ZBrush 3.5 under MAC 10.5.8 and Parallels Desktop and it works well enough to discover this gem.
Or bootcamp to utilise all your macs resources. You do also have to have to purchase a copy of windows and another zbrush license to run on windows so without considerable outlay may not be a viable option.
Richard
M i c h e l
10-03-09, 06:33 PM
Richard, Thanks for your concern and yes I know I can't use all resources of my Mac but I couldn't wait to wet my feet and play for now with what is still a toy (an artistic one) for me. All those new brushes are so temptating. I'll need a while to handle the sktech brushes though.
Michel
I'm starting to think about going back to windows :(
I've been a windows user for over 23 years and a mac user since the intel turn of apple.
I though the machines would be faster and so a good reason to make the change since now 3D was "decently possible to achieve" on a mac.
I love the mac OS! it is just genius!
You realize that when you start developing for the platform, and the whole "genius aspect" goes through the whole system without exceptions!
Well, almost.... the graphic card drivers sucks! I mean now, when Apple machines all have nvidia card in it, why can't just be a driver like for any other OS, which you can download an install and fix graphical issue!?
Thats the only thing I really hate about the system! the lack of control over your graphics card!
Oh.. and another thing...
The fact always have to way for software releases for the platform! (I'm not being sarcastic here) it is just a fact.
I'm not blaming Pixo! I love Pixo and the genius brains behind it! the own my whole respect and admiration.
Autodesk also just won't make a decent version of Maya for OSX! and the list goes on and on...
I'm tired of it.
I know it is a matter of time for this to change, but MY time is now and I don't have the patience anymore to wait and then realize that the version for my OS, sucks and doesn't work as it should! (talking about Maya here ;) )
So, is there a chance for me to change my Zbrush mac license to a windows license? why you guys don't have a license like Luxology? it would be great to be able to install Zbrush twice! one on a PC and one on a mac.
So... I'll stop it here.
I guess I was typing loud! ;)
gretings
R.
gwainbarek
10-06-09, 09:44 AM
@ Reld
totally understand your problem;)
I hit this link like 5 times a day for weeks
hoping to finally get the mac3.5 version:D
Morbius
10-06-09, 01:46 PM
I hit this link like 5 times a day for weeks
hoping to finally get the mac3.5 version:D
Me too.
:D
I imagine it will be a pretty well-publicized announcement. Probably on the Pixo main page too.
As we wait patiently onward...... :lol:
perpetumdesign
10-07-09, 02:03 AM
I'm starting to think about going back to windows :(
I've been a windows user for over 23 years and a mac user since the intel turn of apple.
I though the machines would be faster and so a good reason to make the change since now 3D was "decently possible to achieve" on a mac.
I love the mac OS! it is just genius!
You realize that when you start developing for the platform, and the whole "genius aspect" goes through the whole system without exceptions!
Well, almost.... the graphic card drivers sucks! I mean now, when Apple machines all have nvidia card in it, why can't just be a driver like for any other OS, which you can download an install and fix graphical issue!?
Thats the only thing I really hate about the system! the lack of control over your graphics card!
Oh.. and another thing...
The fact always have to way for software releases for the platform! (I'm not being sarcastic here) it is just a fact.
I'm not blaming Pixo! I love Pixo and the genius brains behind it! the own my whole respect and admiration.
Autodesk also just won't make a decent version of Maya for OSX! and the list goes on and on...
I'm tired of it.
I know it is a matter of time for this to change, but MY time is now and I don't have the patience anymore to wait and then realize that the version for my OS, sucks and doesn't work as it should! (talking about Maya here ;) )
So, is there a chance for me to change my Zbrush mac license to a windows license? why you guys don't have a license like Luxology? it would be great to be able to install Zbrush twice! one on a PC and one on a mac.
So... I'll stop it here.
I guess I was typing loud! ;)
gretings
R.
Understand your point but switching to Windows is very steep price for having ZBrush earlier. But it is a valid request, since Mac and Windows versions are not released in sync, it makes a lot of sense to be able - for someone who has both machines - to switch back and forth. But it is too much to ask from Pixo, I think. I'd be just happy to have Mac Demo version (even 3.1 version) before I decide on buying my license.
perpetumdesign
10-07-09, 02:06 AM
Me too.
:D
I imagine it will be a pretty well-publicized announcement. Probably on the Pixo main page too.
As we wait patiently onward...... :lol:
Well, 3.5 release announcement appeared first in the forums long ago before it made to the front page. So it makes sense, not only a stress-relieving procedure, to check forums from time to time ;-)
With Mac 3.5 slipping to late October / November / even later, I really wonder what about supposed Q4 release of ZBrush 4 for both platforms ?
Morbius
10-07-09, 01:30 PM
Well, 3.5 release announcement appeared first in the forums long ago before it made to the front page. So it makes sense, not only a stress-relieving procedure, to check forums from time to time ;-)
Yep. Every day!
With Mac 3.5 slipping to late October / November / even later, I really wonder what about supposed Q4 release of ZBrush 4 for both platforms ?
Certainly makes you wonder. All we can do is hope. Looks like they're being very quiet again. Ho hum....
;)
jbartley
10-07-09, 02:17 PM
Could we please have a status update on the Mac 3.5 release. A tidbit of info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
surfeur
10-08-09, 08:13 AM
hi,i am ok with that.You should know if it is a question of months or years,at least.It would bo more honnest to respond.I think your silence about this discussion is not respectful for mac users.
No one can predict when bug squashing ends.. Its done when its done. ZB 3.5 is like a year late already. Learn to use what you have instead of worrying about something new and as unyet released.
Many windows users are still using zb 3.1, because none of the plugins are even compatible with zb3.5 yet.
IMHO, 3.5 is just a sweet taste of things to come, and won't be fully realized and useful until we also get the plugins working with it as well.
perpetumdesign
10-08-09, 08:23 AM
Could we please have a status update on the Mac 3.5 release. A tidbit of info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The daily ZBrush for Mac standup meeting routine (DIY version) :
Project Manager : Do you created the final deliverables of ZBrush for Mac today ?
ZBrush for Mac Developer : nope
Project Manager : Do we have a date for this ?
ZBrush for Mac Developer : [takes a deep breath and pause indefinitely, looking over PM head]
Project Manager : I'll be back...
End of the failytale
Hi,
this is about 3 weeks that i'm experimenting "3.5", and so far, I feel grate about it...
However, I'm getting a problem that I never met with "3.1"! My "normal map uv seames" are no more smothed... and I tryed every possible parameters or mapping uvs "modes", sizes...
I'm asking myself if this is related to the HD subdivision use, or if this is a commun for many 3.5 users (?).
So here I'm asking you to help me see more clear, as i didn't found any thread covering this case in this forum.
Thanks for helping,
Regards,
oliman
...
Carsten Lind
10-13-09, 12:12 PM
Well, 3.5 release announcement appeared first in the forums long ago before it made to the front page. So it makes sense, not only a stress-relieving procedure, to check forums from time to time ;-)
With Mac 3.5 slipping to late October / November / even later, I really wonder what about supposed Q4 release of ZBrush 4 for both platforms ?
Deja Vu
Is there a way to unsubscribe to a thread?
Each time I get an email through I misread it to say Zbrush 3.5 for Mac released. grrrrr.
Mike
jbartley
10-14-09, 09:57 AM
Is there a way to unsubscribe to a thread?
Should be a link at the end of the email to unsubscribe.
Btw.. I have the same reaction when I get these emails. My heart skips a beat when I read the subject line. I want it to say "Mac" so bad I read over the 'Windows" part.
I guess there is no point of subscribing to this thread, because when it is released, it will not be announced in this thread. Hopefully a new one.
illusionfxstudio
10-17-09, 07:26 PM
I'm dying to get this into my hands, when can mac users have some fun too
I guess we will see it when the pc users no longer have issues that I have seen reported. Its a shame but all we can do is wait. It will probably arrive just when I no longer have the time to use it. lol.
Mike
Pigumon
10-21-09, 04:07 PM
The daily ZBrush for Mac standup meeting routine (DIY version) :
Project Manager : Do you created the final deliverables of ZBrush for Mac today ?
ZBrush for Mac Developer : nope
Project Manager : Do we have a date for this ?
ZBrush for Mac Developer : [takes a deep breath and pause indefinitely, looking over PM head]
Project Manager : I'll be back...
End of the failytale
You may be right. Remember that whole thing where Pixo was going to do simultaneous releases? What ever happened to that noble notion?
surajit sen
10-22-09, 12:16 AM
Hi
I madly study ZBrush 3.5 and check the new features .But some of new features I cant understand!so from where I can get a full help file of ZBrush 3.5 and it's new features usage?
Please help me.
Im waiting for a positive respone!!
:rolleyes:
Surajit Sen
3D Artist
India
sen.surajit@yahoo.co.in
M i c h e l
10-22-09, 03:57 AM
Hi
I madly study ZBrush 3.5 and check the new features .But some of new features I cant understand!so from where I can get a full help file of ZBrush 3.5 and it's new features usage?
Please help me.
Im waiting for a positive respone!!
:rolleyes:
Surajit Sen
3D Artist
India
sen.surajit@yahoo.co.in
http://www.pixologic.com/zclassroom/
Why does Pixologic show us such wonderful new things with each upgrade to ZBrush yet take forever getting it out to all users? Asking myself that questions makes me A MAC USER wonder to the ZBrushCentral page each day with the hope that today will be the day that I too can have fun with 3.5. Don't get me wrong GoZbrush is great if you have Maya or Modo and could use it.
Can anybody see if there is light at the end of the tunnel? Any word?
Some releases have been almost 2 years after announbcements.. learn to chill, and use what you have to its full potential, instead of wasting your time on rants, and desperate hunts.
It'll be here when its here.. and keep in mind even though an initial PC release was done, none of the plugins have been updated at all, so a lot of production functionality and useability isn't even there yet.
Oh yes. And I'm still waiting for ZApplink... :rolleyes:
I suggest to Pixologic to give us a download mac/pc like Modo. You buy Modo and you can download it both for pc and mac, at the price of a single license.
I would like to use ZB 3.5 with bootcamp. It's not the best for me, but it could be a partial solving for this old problem. :confused:
Learn to Chill, That was cold. I am just asking an honest question don't take it as an attack. All the coming new features sound great and I guess when it comes out it comes out but, as you indicated some releases have been two years this is why it would be a good idea to have ZBrush as a one license covering Mac and PC. Again I do wish you the best and I hope things are moving forward.
I forgot to register my 3.1 - have just done it. Is there a "waiting period" before I can get the 3.5 upgrade? Because when I log on to my account there is no download link for 3.5 ... *aaiii*
Helle :-)
michalis
10-31-09, 07:07 AM
I copy krisz77. And thats sad. ZB guys, you're very close to the artists and shouldn't behave like this.
I agree too. They have improved a lot their customer service and surely have a little more regard toward mac users (Goz) ... I appreciate it, but their behaviour is still lacking. I'm still waiting for an equal service toward mac users and PC users. In the meanwhile I have introduced Mudbox and 3d Coat in my arsenal. I think that Zbrush is the best, but I appreciate the easiness of Mudbox and the topology tools of 3D Coat.
I love ZBrush, but they shouldn't point out other ways to their customers. ;)
RorrKonn
11-01-09, 05:09 AM
Tuff mob.
and to think I could have give'n up being a Artist to be a Programmer.
Getting past " hello world " thou, ruff.
Been around 3D for a Decade +.
Still remember the Lightwave vs Max threads.
We use to joke " way back when " about who would win the 3D Wars.
Back then there where no Softimage vs Max threads.
Softimage ruled, then.
So much has changed in a Decade.
oh ya we have cloth n hair now :)
and thou I try I can not forget how much fun we had 3Ding on a
PC with 32 RAM and a 3D card with a alsome 8 ram.
If the 3D app lasted longer then 30 minutes with out crashing you where having a good day.
We had plugs that would auto say every minute.
I remember how excited I was when we could have a character with a polycount of 3000.
The invenchen of ZBrush.Truely a historical moment in the 3D universe.
I appreciate ZBrush 3.5R2 a lot it's killer.
Thanks for the free upgrades.
You all our one of the koolest 3D companies in my book.
superfabulous
11-04-09, 12:50 PM
To all at Pixologic, thank you for awesome software and thank you for free upgrades. I know like everyone else that at times there are a lot of work arounds, things that don't work right the first couple of times, etc. How many software packages offer free upgrades? Maybe we could all stop and consider how cool free upgrades are. So what things don't work perfect every time and so what PC users get a few things before Mac users. How many users can fully use what they already have. I see a lot of astounding, truly amazing artwork on the gallery pages and at the movies that was done with Zbrush. Apparently there are artists who can do mind blowing work without 3.5, or 4.
Please consider putting some gratitude out there and perhaps in some way it will benefit everyone including yourself. :D
I love ZBrush and I am thankful for the fact that this software is being developed for the Mac that is a lot more than I can say for SoftImage or 3D MAX. Programming can be a nightmare it takes time. As a Mac user I started with Newtek's LightWave at 6.0. God was that a freaking nightmare
nothing worked not even the HUB, many free upgrades came out 6.1. then 6.1a, 6.1b, 6.1c, 6.3. 6.5......now put in a few beta's in the list and you get the idea. Learning the program was much like leading Helen Keller around the room then moving all the furniture around for laughs. Without fail every book you would acquire that had tutorials you could follow would be obsolete before the ink on the page was dry.
Now Newtek is developing LightWave CORE and yes I would love to get it however, as my past experience has shown it would be best to hold off on this one even if it would give me the ability to walk on the moon. They also offer free upgrades but the simple truth is I will save more money by getting it only after others jump in the water first. Pixologic has some of the same problem as Newtek had with one major difference ZBrush on it's worst day is still hell and gone from the mess LightWave was. This I must say was a great job by the programmer to produce what we how have. My only problem with Zbrush on Mac is sculpting on a mesh wile it is transparent. God I wish this feature worked on Mac like it shows in the book Introduction to Zbrush by Eric Keller. I do look forward to the next upgrade when it is out. Things I am sure will get better in time.
superfabulous, Im happy that your happy, but id like to put some ballance on some points.
First thing is Pixologics efforts to produce the best sclupting app is by far the best iv seen for dedication on inovative design, and progression. There are different people that use Zbrush which will give different opinions due to the fact that Zbrushes short falls will effect some more than others.
Its hard to cover all levels of usage, but here are some exsamples.
Hobbyest: Some more seriouse than others, either way it dont matter as its fun, its being creative, and expressing ones self.
Artest: Again a range of these people are out there, some take this very seriously, others like to play with virtual clay.
The Professional: We have the freelance, and the employed studio artest. The employed studio artest has a host of other tools at hand to get the job done. In either case money is involved, there are dead lines, and the pressure is on.
When a problem comes up, you either skip around it, try a workaround, or re-think about the application your using. Either way you have to move forward. Some dont even need half the features that are in Zbrush, so they may not even hit Zbrushes short commings, or broken tools. Others may just use Zbrush by itself, but again it dont mean they are on dead lines, need all the features.
If you have a few very expansive apps at hand to aid in your workaround, then there is no issues, just a few groans because workflow is slowed down a bit.
If you rely on some core features of Zbrush that simply dont work, and there is no workaround that is reasonable, then the groans become complaints.
I guess what im saying here is yes Pixologic has gave some free upgrades, yes the new features are great, if you need them, but what if you have been waiting for some major feature to be fixed, and it still remains? What if you had plans to use Zbrush in your pipeline, and suddenly a feature just simply dont work?
What if Zbrush crashes every few mins, what if Zbrush was promissed to be delivered, and was delayed years, months? This is where you mite see the lack of gratitude.
Im thankfull myself, to have such a great tool, and a company that actualy cares about their product. This dont mean that there is no show stopers for me. In fact there are some things that dont just slow me down, but completly hinder some features like no smooth Uvs for textures. No multiple texture zones without distortion which wasnt in v3.1.
Yes, id rather have all core features working first, than add more to my pallet. We can all look in the top row and see how tallented these individuals are, but we must understand that the new features only enhanced their result, they could use Zbrush 2.0 and produce top row quality, because they did.
The mac users look forward to actualy getting 3.5 /4, the Pc users look forward to the fixes in 3.5, and v4 for Goz.
I am not real happy with the folks at Pixologic and I do get a feeling that they are more than just a little smug (I agree with you on that). The truth is their product should have been ready for the market before it got their. All companies need to make profits and in the area of program development parcel and piecemeal seem to be the order. The problem is much like Newtek
better ideas or new ideas become the goal before complete functionality was achieved in the last great idea. Newtek did get it done. I don't know what issues Pixologic is having but it would be safe to say that they are not alone.
I need to be as patient with Pixologic as I was with Newtek. I am sure that things will get done in time.
John Hoffman
11-05-09, 08:22 AM
As with most people on this forum, I am dissapointed by the late software releases and missed deadlines. I am truely upset by the lack of information given to the pixologic customers. One thing that people keep bringing up is "don't complain becuase the upgrades are free." Maybe Pixologic should change their business model a little and start charging for some of these updates. I believe most people, including hobbiest like myself, would be willing to pay for these updates. Especially if it is used for software development, which in turn would produce more timely releases.
perpetumdesign
11-05-09, 08:30 AM
Agree with John...no problem paying for updates, it is my decision if the update is worth the money.
Problem with Pixologic approach to announcing new versions is that it is very inconsistent. Apple never announces any dates or plans and people are cool with that. But announcing the date, than changing it to "indefinite" and leaving other dates in the air (BTW : is the original announced date for Z4 - in Q4 this year still valid ? I dunno) and missing much of them is definitely bad policy. Once they announced the release date, they should inform the community about the progress. Pretty bad PR in my eyes.
greenlazer
11-05-09, 01:50 PM
I am thinking about buying Z brush in the near future I think 3.5 looks awesome! But if I buy it now will I have to buy version 4.0 when it comes out? or will I be able to upgrade for free like those who were using 3.1?
Thanks
It was said that v 3.5 and v4 is free to regestered users. If you buy 3.5 now, your get v4 for free just as I will get v4 for free, but I brought v2.
The heart of the issue is these people need new management I hate to sound like Dr. Phil but I would like to ask them "HOW IS THE CRYING WOLF THING WORKING FOR YA" ! It will make me think twice about buying a 4.5 or 5.0 regardless if I was using a Mac or PC and 6.0 was free and just around the corner.
Pixologic hasn't changed in like 3 years.. what makes you think they will change because of posts here?
They are what they are.. accept them, or look elsewhere.
Any news on when plugins will work with 3.5?
Decimation Master, SubTool master, ZAppLink etc
Cheers
iatriki
11-08-09, 10:22 PM
Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate :ex:
michalis
11-09-09, 05:52 AM
Blender can handle 600 000 poly now, using sculpt mode, smoothly. Textures in blender are superb too. I use zbrush just for details, so v3.2 is fine, v3.5 doesn't look useful to me. As a mac user I stopped visiting zb support stopped reading announcements everyday. Just waiting for decent bump, normal and displacement maps export. zspheres and retopology are really really useless for me. I'm talking about blender because its a freeware app so has live debugging, these buys look more professional than zbrush's teem to me. sorry. :(
LWAddict
11-09-09, 07:46 AM
Wow but they turn so quickly huh?
"Mmm...free...buf...fet...
<chomp chomp>
What?
No more?
These bastards should've put more out"
Gratitude quickly fades into contemp.
I for one have been working in 3d for years...
oh the humanity of Ray Dream Designer (any other old timers here?)...
and we were happy to get through a job.
ZBrush is awesome on it's worst day, nuf said...
Pixologic is stars and strips above oh so many of the other companies...
and by all means, try the other stuff out.
Some does this and some does that but truth be told,
you need a toolbox full of tools to work in this industry...
not a single all in one solution.
Thank you Pixologic for doing what you do!
(now get back to work on that whole GoZ thing k?)
pOiNtPuShEr
11-09-09, 08:49 AM
LW, I too am an "old timer" and I hear what you're saying. But, I am missing the plug-ins etc. a bit too so I can understand people's frustrations. I've reverted to 3.1 for most of my work at my job simply because those plug-ins did extend the functionality of Zbrush alot for the ways I like to work.
Tomorrow, this thread will be a month old. That there has not been an announcement about the status of the plug-ins or about fixing bugs (like the lazymouse crash issue) seems a bit less than optimal.
Believe me, I'm appreciative of not having had to pay for an upgrade, but if you promise me a free Steak dinner (Zbrush 4, coming end of Aug. 09. featuring Go Z!!!), and then give me a hamburger (Zbrush 3.5, no Go Z, but other cool tools didn't come until Sept.), I'm still thankful for the meal, but I was hoping for more because I was promised more.
To be pissed at Pixologic is just silly IMHO (although I've been there before) but finding a good path for your work-flow right now between 3.1 (if you like the plug-ins and stability) and 3.5 (speed, zsketch etc. hardsurface stuff, noise etc.) is really the only logical choice a lot of us have right now. Seems like the best way to get the job done to me is to look at what you want to make and then figure which package to use for which parts.
I do have total faith Pixologic will release a great update in the future, and I can't wait for Go-Z on the PC, but until then, I've got all the tools I need, just not under one roof :-)
ncollings
11-09-09, 09:00 AM
totally agree with you pointpusher. i just played a bit with the new sculpting tools etc but for any serious works i'm still using 3.1 . i can't do without Zapplink, transpose master, subtool master or Decimation Master. I guess we will migrate at work once ZB 4 will be released. I didn't expect them anymore to make compatible version of the plugins for the 3.5 it's too late. Now let's just hope the v4 will be out soon and that the plugs will be part of the update:)
I agree there REALLY needs to be full plug-in support for any current version officially released. Otherwise I would prefer for them to refer to it as Beta so we know it is being worked on.
One thing I use on a regular basis in the Poser plug-in due to my workflow. Without it, I really would not consider ZBrush for my use and I know others are fond of many plug-ins for their workflow too. That is why I REALLY hope we see some sort of announcement at least that plug-ins like the ones found in 3.1 are in development and some idea as to the progress or support coming.
I really want to love ZBrush, but sometimes they just don't have very good PR about what is going on and current status updates. It seems like things get delayed for years with no word about even if they are still alive and what they are working on.
AVBN5000
11-10-09, 12:24 PM
I was told by a Zrep when activating my key over the phone that there will be a 3.5R3 to come out before 4 and that they are continuing to work on the application plugins and of course GoZbrush.
pOiNtPuShEr
11-10-09, 12:35 PM
Now that, is good news indeed. Thanks for the tip.
:tu:
perpetumdesign
11-11-09, 12:24 AM
I was told by a Zrep when activating my key over the phone that there will be a 3.5R3 to come out before 4 and that they are continuing to work on the application plugins and of course GoZbrush.
What means "before 4" ? Q4 ? December 4th ? 4PM on any random day ?
chris-carter
11-11-09, 12:35 AM
What means "before 4" ? Q4 ? December 4th ? 4PM on any random day ?
before 4 = prior to the release of ZBrush 4
Q4 = Quarter 4 of the fiscal year
December 4th = the 4th day of December, 2009
AVBN5000
11-11-09, 01:39 AM
Zbrush 4
bLawless
11-11-09, 03:03 PM
WOW, glad you clarified, because I thought you meant before 4pm, and I kept checking. I am not joking.
perpetumdesign
11-11-09, 03:12 PM
Time to close this thread. We are getting desperate.
daytona
11-18-09, 02:11 AM
I seriously hope Pixologic have given up trying to push out a Mac version of 3.5 and just concentrate on a simultaneous platform release of 4.
This endless game of catch up is very frustrating.
That said, ZB is still the best and it comes when it comes.
Big respect to the development team working through all the whining. (my own comment included!)
perpetumdesign
11-18-09, 03:33 AM
@daytona : It would be great if they posted a note about the recent plans, including such a change. How much of their precious time it would take : 5 mins ? They ANNOUNCED date for Z4, and while 3.5 Mac has been officially set to undefined, the Z4 Q4 release is still the last official info.. they should update this, it is pretty bad PR from their side. Hope their developers are completely shielded out of this, but it is their marketing guy who is clearly not getting the job done.
The news stuff are incredible and i'm waiting to use them, are there news about mac version? Thx
bLawless
11-18-09, 09:34 AM
The news stuff are incredible and i'm waiting to use them, are there news about mac version? Thx
I am just a customer so here is my guess.
I bet Pixologic is preparing zbrush 3.5 for a mac release - adding fixes and 'lightbox'. My guess is all this is being done in carbon for 32bit.
I would GUESS that Zbrush 4 will be 64 bit for Mac (and PC). That would slow things down for the MAC development because Pixologic has to code everything in 'cocoa' for 64bit, instead of carbon. From what I have read on different forums this would mean starting over in the coding.
But I am not a programmer so my guesses may be wrong.
AVBN5000
11-18-09, 02:06 PM
Im so sorry for the confussion. It was not intended to sound like a time frame. Merely a version number. I will clarify better next time.
perpetumdesign
11-18-09, 02:13 PM
I am just a customer so here is my guess.
I bet Pixologic is preparing zbrush 3.5 for a mac release - adding fixes and 'lightbox'. My guess is all this is being done in carbon for 32bit.
I would GUESS that Zbrush 4 will be 64 bit for Mac (and PC). That would slow things down for the MAC development because Pixologic has to code everything in 'cocoa' for 64bit, instead of carbon. From what I have read on different forums this would mean starting over in the coding.
But I am not a programmer so my guesses may be wrong.
Brandon, where you got the info about Z3.x Mac being done in Carbon ? If that is true and also the bit that Pixo considers move to Cocoa and will use all the latest stuff (CoreXXX and GrandCentral) it will be great boost in performance.
bLawless
11-18-09, 02:22 PM
Brandon, where you got the info about Z3.x Mac being done in Carbon ? If that is true and also the bit that Pixo considers move to Cocoa and will use all the latest stuff (CoreXXX and GrandCentral) it will be great boost in performance.
I don't know if zbrush 3.2 for mac is carbon or cocoa.
I was only guessing because the only application that I know of that makes use of Cocoa is Cinema4d.
Here are programs that are still carbon on the Mac (that I know for sure):
Maya, Mudbox, Photoshop, Modo, Silo, 3DCoat.
Aurick has posted that he 'can not say' somewhere (if you do a search someone already asked, and Aurick responded that he could not say).
If Zbrush 3.2 is cocoa they should say so, wouldn't it be great news to hear? So I am only guessing it is still carbon.
redonix76
11-19-09, 08:29 PM
Hello,
Just wondering when GoZ will be be available? is there a time frame? I really miss all the cool plug-ins that no longer works too...hopefully they will be updated soon! Thanks!
panda-senpai
11-22-09, 12:08 PM
Omg!!!! thx ^^
Oroborus
11-22-09, 11:01 PM
Is Zbrush 3.5 for MAc a whole new program that I will need to buy or could I just buy the current Zbrush version and then download 3.5 on it???
RorrKonn
11-23-09, 04:40 AM
Is Zbrush 3.5 for MAc a whole new program that I will need to buy or could I just buy the current Zbrush version and then download 3.5 on it???free
you can read about it here 4 will be free also
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=073517
you can keep up with every thing in the gallery
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/featured2col.php
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