Using wallpapers and images as reference images ( except any CG work) is legal ?

[sonuchelani]

If I download images from legal sites,(for example I download images of Angelina Jolie from google.com and use those reference images) to create 3d models is legal or illegal? Plese solve my problem.

[adio38]

From what I have learned, or heard. And please anybody correct me if I am wrong. If you are using an image off of Google it is legal, that is what google was created for pretty much. Now if you were to go onto a photographers website, and take his images and duplicate them with your name saying you took them, you could get sued. But if your going to use them as reference in order to model, chances are your going to have many different pictures from many different sources. I personally do not think you have anything to worry about. I hope that helped.

[larsivar]

as far as I know, using pictures as reference for other creative works is not something that is illegal, and I guess it falls under the creative commons rules or something like that. The thing that actually is illegal, though, is if you take the composition and creative concept of that image and straight up duplicate it, without giving the correct reference to the original work. Re-using the original work as part of your own is also illegal, for example if you model a picture frame, then go onto google and take some pic from there and place it inside the frame, thus making it seem like it is a part of your own creation. Until the Orphan Works Act gets passed (which I sure hope it won't, which is an argument I'll take with anyone), the rights to any creative work lies with the artist who made it, and to use it you have to locate the owner and get his permission.

So to sum things up, if you're using these images for modeling reference, I'm sure you'll be OK.

[sonuchelani]

Thank you adio38 and larsivar, thanks to answer my first post, your answer has solved my problem, ZBrush is a great software and zbrushcentral is a very nice forum and the members are also very good and I am very happy I am part of this forum. Thank to zbrushcentral

[lemonnado]

In short... all wrong. If you did not take the image yourself, then it does not belong to you. If it does not belong to you, then you have no right to do anything with it, except with the permission by the owner in writing. If you cannot identify the owner, then stay away. This will keep you out of trouble.

Even if you take an image of a celebrity from Google/News Source and model it, you cannot use that model without the permission of the celebrity as they have their right to their likeness.

Horde's of Hollywood lawyers would descend on your carcass to devour your last atom in case an entertainment business law is broken.

Rainer

[SimonTG]

In short... all wrong. If you did not take the image yourself, then it does not belong to you. If it does not belong to you, then you have no right to do anything with it, except with the permission by the owner in writing. If you cannot identify the owner, then stay away. This will keep you out of trouble.

Even if you take an image of a celebrity from Google/News Source and model it, you cannot use that model without the permission of the celebrity as they have their right to their likeness.

Horde's of Hollywood lawyers would descend on your carcass to devour your last atom in case an entertainment business law is broken.

RainerHonestly, I think you are going a bit overboard here.

He asked if it was alright to use an image hes found on the net as a reference only. There is nothing wrong with that as long as it isn't used commercially.

Say you are working on your demo reel and need some female facial references, you can without a doubt take a photo of say Angelina Jolie (or whoever) as a reference for bone structure, proportions etc...

Now, if you were to see a really cool 3d model, photo, sculpture etc.. that you like and decided to replicate it exactly to be used in an ad, short film or what not, then obviously you would need to contact to copyright owner for permission.

[sonuchelani]

thanks lemonnado (member.php?u=36730) to read my post an answer about it. But I m agree with SimonTG (member.php?u=87710) ( thank you SimonTG). And if I use the image of any celebrity or any other person as reference, 3d model will not be exectally same then no one will hurt. Thank friends :tu:

[Blaine91555]

LEMO,

You have got to cut back on the coffee. :rolleyes:

[lemonnado]

Just using stuff you do not own, which you did not create, and for which purpose you have no permission whatsoever is not legal, ok, or ethical.

Take a camera and take your own reference images with permission and you are the hotness. You lean back in front of the monitor, rip off someones work from Yahoogle, even 'only' for reference, and you are the lameness!

"Oh dude, what a cool model, what did you use as reference...

Aehhh, errrr.... I copied something from the Internets and used it without permission.... "

cmon, you can do better.
Lemo



PS:Sure, my point seems extreme, but that's where it's at. Create original art work with original substance and an appropriate foundation.

[Disco Stu]

seems like lemo has had some bad experiences :D

as long as u as an artist are not able to reproduce the picture 100%
the same as cg with the same camera placement etc i guess no one would care.
if ur able to do 100% i guess theyd just sue you cause they think ure simply posting theyr fotograph