Action Hero - Mr. Fish aka Fishman (villain)

[wethand]

Artist - Jan Daniel

villains original Name: Project F57


Background:

It was back in 1987 when they did it. The scientists were successful in crossing fishes and humans dna.
There were 2000 test tadpoles. the scientists waited and watched them growing... and die off.
after twenty years there was one left. but it wasn't a tadpole anymore. it was a fish with arms and legs like a human. over the years the scientists saw the brain growing. the half of the fish was pure brain. But the fish never moved. it never moved for the twenty years.
the scientists just thought, the fish wasn't done yet. But for the last ten years it was in it's huge test-tube thinking about life. it just didn't move, because it didn't want to. why? you have to eat, to drink. And all it could do was thinking about life.
after 20 years he came up with an idea. the point of life was to spread out your sperm and have children... maybe a family.
but the most important thing: to spread out your dna.

so the fish broke out the laboratory to the next river. there he found out, that the scientists made him impotent. poor fish.
he became angry. very angry. he hated human kind.

one year long he robed many banks and saved the money for his big revenge. Now he gets ready to show human kind what it means to be a fish.


Special Forces:

Hyper-Intelligence: (Human DNA: Big Brain / Fishes DNA: protein) Mr. Fish has such a big brain. so he can remember all things, can think logical in seconds and can manipulate people. He is ugly, but he can speak nicely. just because his big brain all people surrounding him love him.

fast swimmer: yeah, i was thinking about give him the ability to fly.... no. i mean, this is a fish. so he can swim very fast and he can breath under water. but thanks to human dna: he doesn't need it. He has lounghes (i don't know where... maybe in the legs)


His outfit: He wanted something, that fits his color. i don't know why he has chosen red. but under water, where he flees from police it is cold. so he need something to warm up.... and the hat. i think, he thought he would look smart with a cylinder.


personal note:

action hero contest... yeah, just another competition i would like to participate. but i don't think to have a chance. thats why i didn't make a very serious concept. i think its all about fun.
i don't even know if this is a action hero.
and the worst thing is: ACTION POSE? omg. if i finish the model... what could be a action pose for a hyper-intelligent, bored FISH? jumping right into the water? yeah... this could work... :P

EDIT: yeah, i was thinking a long time about this theme. i came up with NOTHING serious. so i just thought about the most untypical heroic character. the idea of the fish was born. AFTER that i wrote the background story... in 10 minutes... in germany you would say "spontane kreativität". so, it was.... uhm... spontaneous creativity! :P

hope you like the idea

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Love it, the mutated fish. He's going to be a fun one to sculpt. :)

[Hamilcar]

:lol: :lol: :lol: nice fish, ya the action pose should be fun, I guess you could look at some taxidermy for inspiration ;) good luck in the contest.

[wethand]

hey there...
thanks for the comments.
now my first progress-pic. just some ZSpheres. nothing to say. maybe just one thing: i don't think the basemesh is relevant if you work with zbrush on a good machine.... everyone knows, that there are masters who sculpt awesome stuff right out of a sphere...

but it makes things easier... this zspheres. :)

after having the basemesh the real fun begins!!
but i dunno, maybe i'll make a new one (seperate meshes for the fish-body and the human arms and legs... but only maybe, if this mesh doesn't work)

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Looks like the ZSphere construct is ready and in a good shape for sculpting. A brief glance of the silhouette, reminds me of the korean terror monster, the Host with humor (The hat), this is going to be cool :tu:

[dustbin1_uk]

reminds me of the fish in sponge bob! :D

[wethand]

@ dustin: lol, yeah, you are right. if you say that it reminds me, too. :P
but thats because all fishes have this sad-looking face.

here the first sculpting-hour and i already see some critical areas.... but hey, it's all about fun, isn't it? ^^

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[SolidSnakexxx]

I think it's looking good so far. The shape is there. With a few subdivisions, I think this can be in a great shape. :cool:

[Captain Sensible]

Haha. Great entry. Nice story and I like his hat! :)

[dustbin1_uk]

Yeah and fun is what this is all about!! :D:tu:

[wethand]

thanks guys! very kind words! :)

so, here's my further progress...

now it's on subdiv lvl 4 with 69,122 polys.
I'm startin' to feel this guy... and i think, i'm gonna like him ^^

last post for today.... i mean, i will work on him, but i hate it to see so many progress-pics out of one single thread in the bar on the top... :rolleyes: :o



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[wethand]

ok, i swear... this is my last post... ^^

testpose.... i'm thinking about make him running away from police. he robed a bank and has a bag full of money in the right, and his hat in the left hand. he' is jumping right into the water, like i said.

the other are updates...

hope you like this idea...

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[maxinkuk]

He's great!!!
He's a truly great character, I think that there's a very real risk that it becomes a classic like the Penguin or the Octopus.

And to make things better in the front view the shadow of his belly produces an indecent shape! What more can you do at this stage to define a character that wants to spread his DNA?

An heroic effort so far.:tu::tu::tu:

[wethand]

couldnt resist to post my last updates... ^^

i cant remember i had ever so much fun when i sculpted

so, i just think about his dress... i wanted to give him such a knitted thing. but now the idea appears to give him a small latex dress. i just dunno... i'll try it both. i mean, i don't work at the moment... -.-

both ideas are funny ^^

and i decided to give him such a fish-mustache. it underlines his gangster-boss apperiance...

so, good night everyone :P

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[Captain Sensible]

I agree with maxinkuk about the comparison to the Penguin. But that's a good thing. I like the pose where he's holding onto his hat. For me the hat gives him a lot of character and is really selling it to me. He looks real fun to sculpt and I think you could do some interesting things with skin folds. Some good work so far. Keep us updated! :tu:

[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow, this is progressing really nicely.. I like how you place his dress...this is such a fun thread :)

[pitchepuck]

WTF !!! that is fun!!! :D :tu:

[Hamilcar]

:lol: :lol: :lol: looking great! I wasn't sure how you were going to pull this off, but you've done it. My one crit would be the shoulders it looks like he's a human in a fish suite, if you know what I mean.

[wethand]

hey there,

many thanks for your very nice words! its motivating me! thanks!!! =)

@ Hamilcar, yeah, i know what you mean. but that was the look i was after. i think it underlines his stupidity! and stupidity is my favorite style of humor.... ^^

so, here are some minor updates. first color scheme and the sculpted dress.
i think it fits him nice! :P he looks SO stupid ^^ i think the color is ok. only the scheme, the final texture comes later, when i am done sculpting...

but at first i will try to sculpt his final bag full of money and his hat.

so, heres my progress so far:

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[threetails]

very funny, i love the wool shirt, great humor.

[Drakelot]

Looking good ... xcellent character :tu:

[ISK-86]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your'e so funny... I started laughing with the concept... but the pose....

Just great!!!

And he also has a granny-made sweater!!

[GregStrangis]

Good job on the texturing so far man, the sweater looks funny haha. You going to give him big beady fish eyes??

[dustbin1_uk]

HAHAHA!! Looking great!!!

I think you may want to turn the saturation down on the jumper just a bit.

But damn you moving fast!! :tu:

[wethand]

hi there,

thank you all so much for your nice replys! thanks.

i didn't think about the eyes so far... this guy is developing by his own... i'm just his instrument. :P
the texturing and the whole color is just provisional. all together it took me 10 minutes to paint him.
now he has already 4,5 mio polys. i would love to detail his face further... i dunno, i think all together the face is ok... i never saw a fishes anatomy scheme, so it's all my imagination.... something between a frog and a fish.

here is my progress so far... i tried to detail his arms like old, fishy skin, but i think its to much. maybe i'll try to achieve such an skin like a drown person.... oh hey, i didn't think about THIS so far... and i think that could be funny and i'll try it.

the face is ok so far, but the arms need a rework... this details suck and the idea with the drown-body-skin on his arms is much better, i think... hard texture work -.- thats not my streinght...

sorry for that long post. but like i said, this guy is developing at the time i sculpt it and this is a tricky part... this detail thing =/

and i ever forget the movie-making!!! damn! last time i wondered why zbrush asked me TWO times to save the document.... no, one was the movie i forgot to export... =(

now i didn't forget it. the making of hat... :P just short transpose and retopo action...

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[petekasim]

Funny! Nice action pose, too. This is going to be a laugh to keep track of, keep it up and all the best to you

By the way, thanks for that hat vid, it's always good to see people's individual techniques. Gave me some ideas!

EDIT: weird, dunno why there was a thumb down in title to my post... maybe I'm going schizo, I sure hope not :o

[dustbin1_uk]

petekasim: What's with the thumb down?

Anyway, great work! This is one of the funniest entries into the contest!! Love the character and love the sculpt!!!

Keep it up mate!! :tu:

[wethand]

hey there,

thanks for your comments!

so far, so good. at this stage (4,5 mio polys only the guy) i think about retopo him. the head is done. VERY dense mesh... and it was complicated.
i just think, if i want to detail him further in his face and on his arms/legs, this areas should be dense. theoretical i don't need the body so i could delete it, but i like him how he is.
theoretical, in my common way, i would clone the mesh, go down to subdiv lvl 1, hide the mesh i don't need (the body).
this destroys your levels, so level up again, append the cutted, not anymore detailed mesh to my original mesh and project the details. that would keep the performance and give the ability to detail.

but hey, i never gone so far in a challange, so i'll try to retopo him and keep it clean. only quads, and one, closed mesh (head, arms and legs WITH the body.

maybe i was too correct in retopo the head. but better this way, than having a problem later.

and i decided to give him fish-scales. nothing more, just simple scales. made with an alpha.

i made a progress-video for the topology part. i hope youtube doesn't kill it, when uploading. it isn't finish right now, so i will edit this post later.

but here are my pics:

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[Moni-Poroni]

Crazy and funny :tu: :tu: :tu: :D
Mr. Fish is looking good so far :)
and there´s something going on with those granny-made sweaters :lol: :lol:
Best Wishes

[maxinkuk]

Mr Fish looks even more solid with his scales on. I so look forward to see this one complete.

[markrulz]

He's looking good, but I want his hands to be a bit more massive than they are compared to the head. Plus his midsection needs some work, the fat 'paunch' needs a bit more mass and doesn't look like real fat to me.

Great concept!

[Lucky_1]

He looks very cool man !
Keep it up.

[jackdaniels666]

Nice fish, he looks like a bad ass.

If DankWing Duck saw that fish walking around he would probably just think he was really high. :lol:

[Hamilcar]

Looking great! Love the hat movie, good job on that. Keep up the great work :)

[wethand]

hi there guys,

thank you all alot for your kind replys!

@moni-poroni: thanks! these sweaters look nice. but the technique (link (http://zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=65108&page=3&highlight=pattern)) isn't zbrush only (i used 3ds max, but just for the uv). Ill try to achieve this effect using just zbrush. (maybe a cylinderical mapping... who knows). anyway, this right now is just a placeholder...

@ maxinluk: thanks man. i thought so, too. you won't be disappointed ;)

@ markrulz: many thanks mate! i'll try this directly! but the fat... under the shirt... maybe, if i have the fun (the time is there. workless right now... WOHOOW, time for sculpting, lol)

thanks lucky! i appreciate that!

@ jack daniels: maybe i am stoned everytime i see him, too.... maybe thats, why this is a fish... :lol: :lol: :lol:

@ Hamilcar: thanks alot. it is a little bit to fast.

and here is my progres... after i saw SolidSnakexxx Thread (http://zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=520530#post520530) i realized that i had to rework the topology... =( and the movie is crap, too. =((
anyway, i use my second attempt. and THANKS to solidsnake... teached me alot without teaching me... :P

sorry, that i have nothing further... but i played with compression methods for the mov of the topology-process....
a record of a topology process... =( how stupid ... this little lines in youtube-resolution :idea:

edit: i see this little pentagon in his eye... but there will be the... eye ^^

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[wethand]

so, here is my retopo progress. i dont know if this was such a good idea.... the body is still so dense. and if it is visible, it doesn't need any details... such a catch-22... if im going further like this, it will be the same result like i did nothing...

i'm a little bit helpless right now... i think, i kill the retopo and sculpt with 17mio polys.... but on the other hand this is bull****, too.

-.-'
i'll see, what i'll do

edit: you see, the topological aspect of modeling... the technical aspect of zbrush... is damn difficult.
the new topology i made sux. if someone has a good reference-sheet for human (?) topology, pls let me know... something like that would be helpful

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[Blastamon]

Yeah retopoing is the unfun part of making characters. I think most of your character is simple enough to not have to pressure yourself so much over it.

I wouldnt worry so much about following polygons around the fat rolls and dimples and things. Just go for a nice grid around the joints so he bends nice and easy.

As for a good reference check out that hulk thread here http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=60245

His retopo is very clean...mostly horizontal and vertical polys, very effective.

[Y/Haüss]

Maaaad Mann!!!! The sea is my passion and this HERO is great!!! Really!!! Very nice model!

[SolidSnakexxx]

Looking good so far man. And man, How honor I am that you mentioned my name in your thread regarding retopology. For me, although it's not the funnest part of ZBrush, it does for me hold a special importance as it allows me to be ply conscious and just in case the model's to be used outside of ZBrush universe.

Look forward for more great Fish from you. :)

[wethand]

hi there,

at first, thanks! i reworked the body topology again! phew. but never concentrated so much on topology, so i am learning SO much right now.

@Blastamon: many many manyyy thanks for the link! it is a great help.
and yeah, you are right saying this is simple enough to not overpressure myself.

@Y/Haüss: oh man, thanks for this! its great to see people like mr. fish! :)

@ SolidSnake: I AM honored you write in my thread! ;) i want to use mr. fish only in zbrush. but like you said: Polygon efficiency! making weighting values for the detailing part. i think, this is really important even on a fast machine. 17 mio polys is to much to work comfortable but right now the body has to much polys compared with the head. i mean, this guy is wearing a sweater, so you don't even see the body.

here is my new, and hopefully last attempt to topologize him. i think this is near to the optimum:


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[SolidSnakexxx]

Now that's what I say......Conserve you polygon to where it's needed...there are many areas that hunger for more polygons :lol: . Looking great so far. :tu:

[wethand]

thanks!!! :)

a little story (typical me):
one minute ago i went to get some coffee... i place the coffee, like everytime, on my left side. my tablet lies on my right side... now you can imagine? i am so talented that i kick the cup of coffee (big cup, 0,5 liters) so hard, that it flies from my left to my right side and ALL OVER THE TABLET!!! AAAAARGH! my good bamboo. i directly unplug it and clean it... but i know, such an amount of coffee penetrates my tablet... :(
so, i think, and come up with the idea: rotate the tablet centrifugally. so, my whole room now is sprayd with coffee, but the tablet works without a handicap... thanks to wacom for that quality... i just hope that there wont be a handicap if the rest of coffee inside the tablet drys out...

just a little story about my daily life... sometimes i think, i am clumsy..


i think, i need a coffee and a cigarette right now! .... but it works... i thank god.

[wethand]

hey there,

after i had some things to do i had time to end the retopo and try to detail the head a little bit.

i have to say, the new topology works NICE! it was the right decision!
the model now has 3,2 mio polys. in comparison with the 4,5 it had before and the resolution of the head its definetely better.

i'm just trying. i think the horn-plate thing looks right, even with the hat.
i think the details in the face are ok. i'm not the best in detailing, like you see in the vid.
i think the face isn't the best right now... i don't know if i try to rework the skin. let me know, what you think...

i'll post the vid as soon its up.


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[wethand]

and here is the video. i hope, you enjoy...

and please let me know if the face is believable... if ya look to long in the same, sad looking fish face, you lose the relation...

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[dustbin1_uk]

The main cool thing about this contest, and no doubt it was intended by Pixologic, we get to see all the different way's people do things!

I think I have learnt more in the last two weeks then at any other time here at ZBC!!

Thanks for posting this!! :tu:

EDIT:

Oh and great choice in music!!! Gave me a smile! :D

EDIT EDIT:

Oh and yeah the face is awesome mate!! :tu::tu:

[Captain Sensible]

Cool!

I'm really liking those details and well done on the retopo!

[Hamilcar]

Hey nice movie, and funny song. Fishman is look'n better every day.

Just a note to your re-topo work. I was working with the topo tool today and I noticed you can draw some fairly large polys and even leave areas unfinished and adaptive skin can still figure it out and do a pretty good job.

[wethand]

hey guys,

and again. many thanks for your comments!!
i watched my own movie. i think this is crap. the quality doesn't work with such fine detailing work...
damn, used this funny song idea for such a crap! -.-

@dustbin; oh yes, the idea of the contest is just great. to see so many techniques is one of the best resources.
and many many thanks for your superkind reply! i appreciate that!

@captain; thanks mate! this is motivating me!

@Hamilcar; yeah, i think i know what you mean. but this results often in tris or pentagons. i try to retopo the complete mesh without a tri. i think thats the cleanest way.

so, here is my last update...
this time a little bit detailing work on the body and the legs. and a new technique.
i've read the rules again and it is important to use only zbrush (and photoshop maybe... anyway, didn't need it until now)
so i tried to make the sweater just in zbrush. you know, you need uv's for that. the technique is described here: Eof's Sketchbook (http://zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=65108&page=3&highlight=pattern)
so you just need uv's. in my case this is just a cylinder, so it's very easy.

and at the end 3 bigger pics. i think, the fish-sculpting part isn't far away from finish.
i have to think about the environment next... never did an environment in zbrush before.

little description:
1. in the preview rotate your model, how you need it. the caps are towards to you and away from you... i'm sorry for that bad english, but i hope you understand.
2. cylinderical uvs.
3. zbrush isnt the best uv tool, so it leaves areas i have to paint the mask manually.

i would like to use the 3ds maxes version.... but maybe i'll try to refine that technique.

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[fluxist8070]

this is hilarious! Very imaginative stuff! The action pose where he ws jumping off the building was great!

[SolidSnakexxx]

I like the texture of the fish sweat shirt. And thank you for the tips.

[wethand]

hey guys,

thanks again!

@fluxist8070: many thanks on this one!
but he's gonna jump into water. he is gonna jump from something like a catwalk (something like this: link (http://images.google.de/images?hl=de&q=steg&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi))
or maybe he's jumping from an edge... but into the water! :)

@solidsnake: thanks. i'm glad you like it.
i think this technique is obvious. nothing special, just the proof i did everything in zbrush! :)

and here is some transpose-master practice. just for fun with a vid showing the process.
and a turntable of the pose. i thought it could be fun to make him sitting on his fin.
i don't know if this is believable. but like i said. just practice. i have the time right now.

about the music: i think such videos should have music. you have the option to mute it. but it makes the whole thing a little bit more interesting. now you hear the music i hear in common. chill/ambient/electronic/minimal-house... :) it doesn't matter, how you call it. but it is relaxing, i think.


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[dustbin1_uk]

Hahaha!! I love it!!

[SolidSnakexxx]

Cool pose...I like it that you make him smoke a cigar. His fin must be quite strong to support the body weight. :)

[Moni-Poroni]

Haaahaa :D :D
This is really cool :tu: :tu: :tu:
I´m sure you´ve had a lot of fun...
and I think that´s important :)

Have you already started to texture him?

[Captain Sensible]

Haha! Good job on the vids and great pose too. Is his right foot passing through his left foot though?

[wethand]

hey there!

@dustbin: thank you very much! i'm glad, you like it! :)

@solidsnake: yeah. i also thought, it would either break than holding him. but he is so fat, that he nearly stands when he sits... :P
it was just doodeling. the final pose will be the jumping one.

@moni-paroni: you know. posing isn't such a fun for me... i just wanted to practice. i mean, fat guys posing is difficult... but i am very glad you like it :)
no i didn't start to texture him. i want to finish the sculpting part before texturing him.

@ captainsensible: oh yes, thanks! but that isn't the final pose, so i won't change it anymore.

Thank you all for your kind replys and the motivation, you give me! i appreciate that!

here's a little update. i tried to detail the hands. i think the nails fit him.
maybe a bit more later.

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[petekasim]

Ha! Loving the pose, very gangster.

Excellent form and detail on the hands, too :tu:

[Y/Haüss]

Maaannn!!!! Mr. Fish is Don Corleonne from the Seven Seas!!!! Il "Cappo di tutti cappi".

[GregStrangis]

Great pose and I like the texture work so far man keep it up :tu: :tu: Gansta fish FTW!

[SOLcreator]

! Love The Pose ! I mean a bowler hat... c'mon, how can you go wrong? :tu:

[Moni-Poroni]

The hands are really well done...:tu:
May I ask you some question :) ?
Have you added his fingernails as subtools ?

[wethand]

hey and thanks!!!
nice replys!!! thank you guys!

@petekasim: thank you very much!

@Y/Haüss: thanks man! but if this a film, i don't know him... but thats a mafia fish for real!

@GregStrangis: thanks! glad, you like it!

@SOLcreator: thank you so much!

@Moni-Poroni: thank you, too! of course you can ask every question. yes, the nails are subtools. i went back to level 2 and extruded them. then inflat because there are very thin and then sculpt. i made the mistake to extrude every nail for its own.
i made i vid but when i tried to make1mesh out of the five nails zbrush broke down.
at the feet i directly masked all 5 nails to have just one subtool.
a closeup of the feet is attached...

so, here is my update:
i tried to make a bag for him.
i don't know if this is ok. but for now i'll take it how it is. very dirty sculpting... but hey, its a bag.
the red is wrong i think. but the flowerpattern will be in the final as well!
it has not to much polys like you see.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Nice bag...for a mafia fish.. looking almost like a LV bag. Your stuff's getting very creative... and cool. And thanks for the vid on the bag :)

[wethand]

thanks solidsnake! :)
i just thought what a bag he would use if he robbed a bank. such a sports bag or something like that.
i don't like it very much.

[Moni-Poroni]

Thank you for answering my question :)
Good idea to make the nails become one subtool...:)

BTW-really cool bag..looks like there´s much money inside...
or lots of gold bars :D

BTW2 ---Hey you´re from Germany too :D Didn´t see that ^^

[wethand]

hi moni paroni,

hey neighbor! where are you from?
no problem. of course i answer the questions! :)
glad you like the bag! but i don't like it so much... anyway, there's much money in there!

[wethand]

Hey there.

now i began make the environment. he will jump far into the blue!
i thought about giving him some friends awaiting his arrival. :)

the water is simply modified terrain and sculpted with some build in alphas.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow, that's like a full set right there with the pond the wooden thing. :)

[50'sKID]

Hey, wethand, this is a really fun thread and a marvelous design. Great how-to also. thanks, Rich.

[wethand]

hey there. and thanks for the nice and fast replys! :)

@ solidsnake: i don't know if this is gonna be the final one. the stumps need a whole rework, i took just a alpha i had. but this isnt so right.

@ 50'sKID: thank you so much! i am glad you like my stuff! :)

here is a little update. i made one little friend. in the final one there will be many of them. but all the same with this little hat. i thought it would be funny if he cloned himself or something... i think i wont change this little guy anymore. maybe ill give him a fin on his back.

the vid follows.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

You are lighting fast, wethand. And the Fishman has got himself a buddy. I like the look in his eyes..spacing out..looking very funny. :cool:

[lander]

Thanks for doing the bag video. Cool stuff.

[maxinkuk]

Your setting is great! As well as all the other elements that you're bringing in. Fabulous work, this entry will be a top one! Can't wait to see all brought together.

[wethand]

hey,

thanks solidsnake, but you see. this little guy there isn't really complex! :P

@ lander: no problem! i'm glad you enjoyed it.

@ maxinkuk: oh man, i cant say how honored i feel! thank you so much for this!

i have time right now. so i spend much of it! :)

here is the fish vid. i had to replace the music in cause of copyright issues. but i think this track just fits this nicely! :P

edit: oh, i see. it seems to play the original music when embedded. nice... :)

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[wethand]

mr. fish has got a new little friend. the old one died.... :(

after i exported the vid i forgot to save it...
so i made a new one.
and i started to texture mr fish. just experimenting with polypaint...

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Great Texture for Mr. Fish. Only crit (which I think you will change anyhow) would be the material... may be with more specular would make his scales pop more.. Other than that this is rocking. :)

[wethand]

hey solidsnake.

many thanks for this hint! i played with the idea to take this mat as the final one. but you are right... and the time is there to make some zbrush-material experiences.
i'll work on the mat as soon as possible :)
thanks for your construcitve posts!

[wethand]

played a little bit with materials and painted him a little bit further...
i dunno... the greenish color mix on the back is cool... but the rest. i dont know, maybe you inspire me... :P

anyway here is the progress. the material isnt the best... still playing around and figuring out some things.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Now his scale-covered skin looks more shiny. :) I think you can even add extra shininess to it..will almost make him look covered with Fish....body liquid.....mucus looking thing. (Don't know what it's call in English)

[wethand]

hi solidsnake. yeah, i thought so, too.
but i thought he robbed a bank and ran a lot. so he got dry with the time.
but a little bit more shininess could do its job.

i will see.

[BARON_3D]

Fantastic model :tu::tu::tu:
_____________
Sea Creature (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=66002&page=2)

[Fess]

Man, he's looking good! You're pretty fast too!

For colour - I would experiment adding subtle yellows/pinks to the lighter side. Perhaps break the transition a bit more, make it sharper, with parts of one colour going slightly further in some places, have dots of different colour there too. Also, maybe add some more colour variation to the dark parts?

Modeling is looking pretty good to me - keep going!

[wethand]

hi guys!

@baron; many thanks!

@fess, many thanks for this tip! i tried to spray a little bit of every color on the lighter side... maybe not enough...

i messed a little bit further with the mat. turned up the spec a little bit more. i think this could be the right mat.
anyway, this is it so far...

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[adroit.jr]

nice texture and very detail work. niccccccccce

[SolidSnakexxx]

Now that's a nicer shine on his scale.. :tu:

[wethand]

hi there.

thank you very much adroit!

solidsnake: maybe too shiny now. don't know... a fish-mutant skin... who knows how this would look like. :P

now he got an eye! :P
not sure if this gonna be the final one. tell me what you think

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[adroit.jr]

you are so fast really nice work.

[Lucky_1]

Very cool update Wethand !
Keep it up

[Captain Sensible]

Great update. Really nice slimyness on the skin! Would the eye be a bit lighter though?

[Moni-Poroni]

wethand....
sieht echt richtig cool aus... macht nochmal einen riesen Unterschied zu dem roten Mat Cap Material:)
Der Glanz-Effekt und die Augen sind hammer... richtig Fischig (existiert das Wort übehaupt ^^?) egal Du weisst, was ich meine
LG

wethand
looks really cool... what a difference compared to the mat cap material :)
The shiny gloss effect and the eyes are great...
really fishy ( does this word exist at all ^^ ? )
but you know what I mean
Kind Regards

[wethand]

hey there,

@adroit.jr; many thanks again!

@Lucky_1: thank you very much! i really appreciate it!

@Captain Sensible: thank you! yeah, made it a little bit brighter. and changed the pupil on one side.

@moni-poroni: danke sehr! :P selbst hast du einen ziemlich coolen eintrag! fand die idee richtig klasse...
mit dem fisch is das so ne' sache,... hat zuwenig flosse, um fisch zu sein. ma schaun. danke für den netten kommentar! :)

i won't translate that now... >.<

finished the color part so far... i think, this will be the final mr. fish...
tell me, what you think.


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[SolidSnakexxx]

I think it's Awesome :) the eye really do looks wet! and cool. :)

[luis2008]

looks great man...that sweater makes me laugh every time. who ever thought to put a sweater on a fish? well you obviously lol. he has some really nice detail. keep it up

[dirkrulz]

thats some imagination dude...
i was wondering how it will look with shark fin tearing apart its sweater from the back. mebbe he can shoot water like a whale as a secret attack !!!!

[languidcorpse]

I LOVE IT! The sweater is the icing! ;)

[gregoconn]

This is looking really nice, I'm glad this one is coming along because I really like your concept.

Only comment I can make is that the texture around the eye could use a little more variation. At the moment the colour around his face seems rather bland and is detracting slightly from your sculpting.

[sazar26]

good sculpt so far bro :tu: The detail work is real clean and i like how parts of his body are asymmetrical :cool:

[GregStrangis]

Looking good man, I like how the skin texture and paint finally came out, looking forward to the render :tu: :tu:

[swankymonkey]

Great textures! That is one snarky looking fishman! And that sweater ... I am gonna have to knit myself one of those.

[wethand]

wow people!
i am amazed by this amount of nice comments!!
first of all THANK YOU ALL!!! i never became such a good feedback on anything... so thanks!

SolidSnakexxx: thanks man! i just used the toyplastic material.

luis2008: thanks man! i'm glad you like it! :) mr. fish thought he would be individual if he wears a swater. and a real villain needs a fitting suite :P

dirkrulz: that is one thing i'm thinking about. give him a nice backfin. maybe with the next update.

languidcorpse: thank you so much! =)

gregoconn: thank you for that! i will try to give it some more variation. this is my first serious attempt for polypainting. and i just don't know what detail i could paint him in the face... i'll see. but thanks for this advice. i'll make it real.

sazar26: thank you very much! ;) where is there something asymetrical? i'm just wondering... but when you like it, i am glad! :)

GregStrangis: thanks man! but for the final render you will have to wait some time. first finish the painting, and then the environment.

swankymonkey: lol. i wouldn't wear such a sweater. i hope you guys saw the big urin-speckle on his bottom. :P
hopefully right written.

so, thank you all again! i'll try to not disappoint you with this guy.
maybe an update comes today... stay tuned :P

[wethand]

hey there.

here is the environment. i think this is ok so far.
mabe the water will be remade. but the fishes there and the wooden thing are oke, i think.

tell me, what you think. please! :)

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[Moni-Poroni]

Hehe..that´s pretty cool... I love the ....don´t know the name of it ^^
I mean the wooden parts in the water... great how you´re using the transparancy :)

[wethand]

oh yeah moni. thanks for your kind reply! :)

the transparenca is faked. right now it is layered in photoshop (one layer WITH the water subtool, the other without... and then blended together)

the transparency in zbrush doesn't work so well... so i'll have to try some settings...

[Gohanf22]

nice use of the transparency dude. im curious on how you actually did that. im trying to figure that out for my project that im doing for some of my models and I really dont know how to do it. lol. just curious. doing a good job mate. :D :tu:

[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow, you've textured...the environment too... I think while he body of water doesn't have transparency...it does still look nice and glittering :tu:

[wethand]

hey there.

first of all thanks again for the kind replys!

i don't have much of time. just shot the right materials on the scene. gave the wooden things a second material to indicate some wetness.
i think this could work.

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[Gohanf22]

i love the wetness on the wood. very realistic. i still love the affect of the water with the reflectivity. its really good. keep it up man. keep it up. :D :tu:

[animastur]

Good job. The video remember me the fish of Pixolator... :lol:
I like the the texture colors also. The little fish are funny.

[JesseGraffam]

this is looking good can't wait to see it textured and shaded. One thing I think needs more work are the feet. They need more definition, and and they look too small to support the weight and angle the character stands at.

[SOLcreator]

Good use of props. I look forward to seeing more :D

- SOL

[wethand]

hey guys,

like everytime, thank you very much!

@ gohan: thanks man,

@animastur: yeah, i remember this video... it was one of my first zbrush-experiences. maybe it influenced me so much... :P

@jessegraffam: thanks for the hint with the feet. you are completely right. ill make them bigger in the next update.

@solcreator: thank you very much! you WILL see more. :)


and i have got some trickys i often use. i have the problem with the nails. subdiv 4 but i have to mirror it WITH the subdivs!

1. i clone the nails. one at level 1, and one at the highest level.
2. i append both subtools to my original mesh.
3. i del lower and del higher at the subtools, so i have one highres detailed mesh without subdivs and one lowres.
4. at deformation i mirror both subtools.
5. now i hide all subtools but the two appended.
6. for the lowres subtool i devide it to the point, my highres is at.
7. now i press "project all" at the tools palette and tadaaa
you have your subtool WITH the subdivs mirrored.


my second hint is making one mesh with multiple subtools but not destroying your subdivs. i need this one for the little fishis.
1. first of all you need to make one lowres and one highres mesh.
2. you know make1mesh? no? this is a very useful plugin. LINK (http://zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=49952&highlight=make1mesh)
3. so, for my fish i select every subtool and lower the subdiv. after that i hit make1mesh.
4. after that i select every subtool and higher the subdiv. i hit make1mesh.
5. like before i devide the lowres mesh 3-4 times and append the highres mesh to it.
6. now i hit projectall and made one single subtool out of multiple subtools without destroying my subdivs! i need this for posing the fishis. (if they jump out of the water, they would bend)

hope, someone read this... :P

here is the progress: gave him a backfin. i remember a film "freewilly". i thought, such a twisted fin could fit him very well. tell me, what you think!

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[wethand]

hey there.

with my new subdiv-fishis i can finally bend them and make their jumps a little bit more realistic...

so, i am not far away from finish. mr. fish is textured. his material is nearly done. i think i'll work a little bit further on the water... the texture and the shape... but for now i am done....

if you think something, let me know what it is... :P

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Nice update...and thanks for the tips...I like the little fish in the water....more than the bigger version. :)

[wethand]

hey solid,

thanks for this!
i think these "tips" are obvious, but i needed a long time to figure it out... subtool mirroring without destroying subdivs...

some further texture and material work.
i think it becomes better.
now the transparency is fully zbrush. i will tell you how to use it the most efficient way in my next post. ^^
still have to figure out some thinks.

and i still looking for the best light setups. maybe you guys know a little bit more about it, than me.
but if i change the light-type from sun to anything other it seems the light is deactivated. even with the best render setting it doesn't lighten the scene.
i just don't know why these two fishis are so much brighter than the other. maybe i'll figure out.

the whole thing is realy close to be done...
BUT I DON'T WANT TO FINISH THIS ONE!!!! ^^
never came so far with one single concept, never pushed it so hard and never got such a nice feedback on one single thing i did....
maybe i'll make some more funposes...

here is my environment. fully textured... but the wood material isn't the best.

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[pitchepuck]

I lough my ass off !!! :lol:
the little fishes with this little hats !!! soooooo coooool :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
one of my faworites here...

[Hamilcar]

wow you've really done a ton of work! the base looks great :tu: imho if your going for this high level of detail then the posts need some barnacles on them but that's really nitpicking on my part.

[wethand]

hi,

pitchepuck: oh man, thank you so much! can't believe what i am reading... favorites... me? thanks man!

Hamilcar: thank you very much! i am very chilled right now. i don't have to work at the moment so i have much of time...
the hint with the barnacles is one of the best i got here. awesome idea!! i will give my best to realize them....

thank you!

[dustbin1_uk]

Bravo! your work her has put many of us to shame! Well done! :D:tu:

[Gohanf22]

well done man. your work is an inspiration. to bad the inspiration might be too late for me. :cry: keep up the good work.

[Captain Sensible]

Great! The base is brilliant. And the little fishes jumping in anticipation is a great idea. I like how you have contained the water in a block! I would have gone for something more fluid but don't change it!!

Definitely laughing 'with' you man! Great character that's gradually coming more and more to life! :tu:

[wethand]

oh wow! this is fast!

thank you all guys...

just a little update. like Hamilcar mentioned there were barnacles missing
and a little vid. just thought over the fastest way. came up with this. but this doesn't look real.
but i think thats the material....

what you can't see very well in the vid is that i am making an alpha. i attached the alpha.

thank you all so much! :o :o :o

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[jackdaniels666]

Nice barnacles man, I really need to start using alphas more.

Thanks for the vid.

[Moni-Poroni]

Hehe :lol: :lol: this rocks...:tu:

cool details..and it really makes me smile :)
Thank you for sharing the how-to do movies :tu:
And what you´ve told about the subtools... that might be interesting for me..
:D

[wethand]

hey there!

thanks for your kind replys!!
@ jackdaniels: yeah, working with alphas is one of the most important things in zbrush, i think... :P

@moni: dank'söhr! :P

i worked the base a little bit more.
it seems, zbrush doesn't save the applied materials when i save my tool... that sux...
i completely remade those barnacles.
and i attached an image where you can see the settings i use to make the water a little bit transparent.
a little explanation:
1. at first you need to turn on transparency... :P
2. now select the subtool you want to be transparent.
3. in preferences hit draw. there you can set separate opacitys for the active and for all inactive subtools.

i think this live-out-of-zbrush transparency is very strong! no layering in other apps. that helps me for the final still render i will need for the contest...

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[pitchepuck]

:D :tu: :tu: :tu:

[maxinkuk]

Fantastic work on the environment. I really like this scene, technically is a great achievement but the magic ingredient is drama. I am sure that your final render will be great.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow...the transparency trick is real awesome... technique!! :tu: :tu: and man it looks super fine now... :cool:

[Gohanf22]

nice transparency wethand. i love the barnacles. very well done. your doing a good job. no, an amazing job. nice work. :)

[Captain Sensible]

Great stuff. Can't wait to see it all together! :tu:

[GregStrangis]

Awesome base dude!! Thanks so much for that transparency trick :D :D Keep up the great work :tu: :tu: :tu:

[mantegra]

Cute character, I like it!

[Hamilcar]

wow! looks great. very nice alpha you made :tu: nice result. Thanks for the movie. If you have time it would be nice to see something structural supporting that platform.

[goldo_O]

Thanks for posting your timelaps video, very interesting! :tu:
You have done an amazing job on your base!

[spimmy]

Wow, Fishman is looking most awesome, really love the texturing on the character!! :) .

The Base is looking very nice, look forward to seeing fishman on his base. Great stuff :tu:

[wethand]

hey guys,

pitchepuck: thanks! :P don't know, how to understand it, but thanks anyway :)

maxinkuk: thanks mate! yeah, the drama comes with the pose. i am just finishing the sculpting and texturing process for mister fish. i am not shure about the sweater.

SolidSnakexxx: thanks man! yeah, i dunno how i came to that. i think i just was lucky when i looked through the preferences. :)

Gohanf22: thank you very much!!

Captain Sensible: thank you! :) i can't wait to see it all together, too! :P

GregStrangis: thank you very much! but i think i will have to rework the base, after posing this guy... i think, it would be better if the fishys are there, where he is going to jump in (a little bit more far away from the woods, if you know, what i mean... :) )

mantegra: thanks! :) glad, you like it!

Hamilcar: thanks! but this alpha was so easy to make (like you can see in the vid... :) ) do you mean with something structural such woods which hold the whole thing together? yeah, thats a really good point! thank you for your ideas!!! they help me a lot. i'll work on it!

goldo_O: thank you so much! but the base isn't done so far... i'm working on it... :)

spimmy: many thanks! i think the texturing is done so far... :)

so, here are my newest pics.
about the sweater: i remade it but i am not sure if the "bigger" one is better. but i think i like it a little bit better! and i have it already painted. ;)
it would be nice if you let me know what you think!

and i tried to detail and integrate his backfin a little bit more. i think it looks good like it is. such an old and dirty backfin (it just looks cool, he doesn't need it. if he would need it, he would have a problem... ;) )

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Really nice, wethand he fin looks like it has the weight too which is really fine :) ..

[Moni-Poroni]

wethand---cool work..and thanks for your explanations :) :tu:
I´m sure your hand is definitely wet because of Mr. Fish:lol:

[Gohanf22]

nice mr. fish wethand. your doing an amazing job.
btw, thanks for you help on my model. :)

[Gohanf22]

just wanted to say hi lol. doing a good job.

[wethand]

Hello there guys,

i tried to pose my fish today.
This was just a transpose master test with all subtools i need for mister fish.
but like you see in the transpose vid i made several mistakes.
and the base needs a lot of rework...

@gohan: ah yeah, really. you wanted to say "hi"? please think about what you are writing before you hit enter.

maybe you know: is my base with HOLES??? in the rules they write "no holes". but is that a real hole? i think so. if that is a hole i need to rethink the whole base, DAMN!!!

here is my progress. all materials aren't final!

Transpose process

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[pitchepuck]

:D I love it :tu: :tu: :tu:

[jackdaniels666]

Nice, but that money is gonna be ruined for sure. :D

[Moni-Poroni]

:D cool... cool... I love the money..*sing* cause we are liiiiiiiving in a material world....and I´m a material girl :lol: just kidding!
BTW..jackdaniels...I think money is waterproof?
But I´m not sure...
Last time I robbed a bank I didn´t have to swim :lol:

wethand..the whole scene is top :tu:

[Captain Sensible]

Awesome! I'm lovin that pose and now he's with the scenery it really looks great. I like the bag too :cool: :tu:

[Hamilcar]

Awesome work! The money bag looks really great. Everything is coming together very nicely.

where is the hole in your mesh? imho I wouldn't worry about a hole in the mesh, if you win a 3d print you can fix the hole before sending it off to print, thats just my thought tho.

[wethand]

thank you guys...

i don't think i will win a 3d print, so why matter about holes...

here is my first idea of a logo. sorry solidsnake, i just remade your idea with the little guy in the logo....

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[wethand]

and lol, i see this looks just... uhm... embarrassing... hahaha ^^

now, maybe i'll work on it later, but the logo is just sekundary

[maxinkuk]

Your scupt is fabulous!!! Really, a great scene. I just love it.:tu::tu::tu::tu::tu:

The holes that must be avoided are another thing altogether, they're holes "in the mesh", like when there are polygons missing and the surface is not closed.

[Moni-Poroni]

Oh wow.. I like the logo! Especially the Fish in place of the "i"
very cool idea indeed ..maybe you can add some scales in the other letters :)

The scales fell from my eyes :lol:
Es fiel mir wie Schuppen von den Augen

[entrop23]

Hi Wethand,

I like the pose you're putting together. My only thought looking at it was the hand that's holding the hat--I just wonder how it might look if instead of that hand being off of his head, it was actually closer to his head and still holding the hat on... right now it looks kind of like he's deliberately removing his hat before diving in the water (which is actually kind of funny, come to think of it!) rather than holding it on his head as he dives in (Indiana Jones-style).

I spose it kinda works either way, heh, but just thought I'd throw that idea out!

[Lucky_1]

Very nice update wethand Love it,
the jacket is to good to be true ! :lol:

[gregoconn]

Great pose wethand I like how this one is coming together. When you attack the lighting I think it would be cool if there was a spotlight shining on him as if from a helicopter.

[SolidSnakexxx]

That's an excellent pose, wethand. I wouldn't have thought of that..Really funny and cool. Oh and the Transpose vid is great too :) :tu:

[chindian]

Haha.. this is an interesting entry! kool man! I wanna see the final! :tu:

[wethand]

hey there!

thank you all again!

maxinkuk: thank you very much!!! i am working on it. and yeah, you are right... "if i win..."... so why worry right now? ^^

moni: TADAA ^^ i already thanked you, but one time again: thank you! :P

entrop23: oh yes, thank you very much for this idea!!! this is a great idea! i will try it directly!

Lucky_1: haha, yeah, it still needs some holes, some dirt. thank you so much! glad you like it, i appreciate it!

gregoconn: oh well. thank you so much for this idea!!!! i will give my best! really!! thanks!

SolidSnakexxx: yeah, thanks! :) but this was just a test... with all subtools and stuff.
The real pose will be the next thing i will try. beside some base-detailing and such stuff.

chindian: thanks! glad you like it. you will see the final as soon it is done! MUHA! :P :lol: :lol: :lol:


thank you all for your comments...

this time just a little new logo... i will use that one. i hope, its not to complex... but i like it.

its just a logo! :)
Very easy technique: i extracted an alpha with the letters "Mr. Fish" out of a plane and sculpted it with the scale alphas, like my fish.

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[jackdaniels666]

Nice Logo. :cool:

[wethand]

Hey there,

thanks jackdaniels! :P
just a little logo...

so, here a new update. i decided to remake the... yeah... uhm... dunno how in english. this wooden plates.

@ Solidsnake: i'm so sorry to steal every of your ideas! :P but if they are so nice, why not use them for my superhero... if i should stop to steal your ideas, tell me. but this is just a logo and stuff... i think you are not so angry... please don't be very angry! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


and yeeeah, youtube needs a VERY long time to process my video... dunno, why. but i am waiting for one hour now! (it is already uploaded)

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[SirNeo]

i really like your thread, also wooden plates and water looks good, good luck for the contest :tu:

[Moni-Poroni]

STOP THE THIEF:lol: :lol: LOL
Your update is great... and well...I like that you´ve used just a sketch for the stolen idea :)
Hope Mantis Man won´t come with his insect friends to hound you :D

[wethand]

@ sirneo, thanks man!

@ moni: thanks! :)

now finally the vid is online!

[SolidSnakexxx]

Hey there, wethand, I'd never get angry at you for this Especially when you do so in style and cool like what you just posted. :tu: :tu:

In fact, I'm a huge believer in ideas and knowledge are meant to be shared.... (That's what I'm trying to embed into my company as well) and that's why I decided to be a University teacher :)

[wethand]

thank you so much!

a university teacher??? wow!

i dream of teaching people some day. i hope it so strong. and i think if i work further on my skill i'll be able to make my dream reality! :) i have a long life that stands before me (if i STOP SMOKING) and i will get many chances...

i hope to get a chance to proof my passion some day. :)

[maxinkuk]

Just watched your video, very good stuff. By the way, I'm really impressed by the water. I'll have to do some myself soon and you set a very high standard here.

[wethand]

oh hey maxin,

thank you so much for that compliment!

the water material is VERY easy! it is a doubleshade with a very high spec.
if you are interested, i attached it. so you can download it and look, how it is made. i think i just was lucky with the textures. :)

[maxinkuk]

Thanks for the mat, I just downloaded it and will try it later on.
Cheers

[Gohanf22]

beautiful update wethand. thats all i wish to say. :(

[SolidSnakexxx]

Hi, wethand, :) I've been teaching part time for 2 years now and I feel very rewarding passing on my knowledge to younger generations. I'm certain a person with your skill and attitude, would make a great teacher.... :)

[Hamilcar]

Hey very nice video! nice logo! and the dock looks great! You've done sooo much great work for this contest. You have a great understanding of Zbrush :tu: :tu:

[wethand]

thank you all so much!!!!

today just a new pose. i think its much better. i wanted to use this one as the final, but zbrush crashed down, so i couldn't export the vid.... and the rules say you have to post a vid of making your final pose. :(
anyway, its all practice for me.

after i have read my own post again i decided to delete the to personal part. thank you for your wishes!
:)

good luck to everyone for that week.

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[barefootMind]

a very original piece, one of the big fishes :D

a good composition and dynamic pose in my mind,i hope he will make it ;)

his hat , his knit pullover, his cool sporty ganster bag and his friends waiting for him.... well selected details :tu:

keep going


Ich wünsch dir natürlich noch viel glück und erfolg bei der aufnahme an der uni

bye

[Phrost]

hehe this is cool, wats in the bag? money from one of his bank robberies? dirty gym clothes? a bag full of male nipples?

[petekasim]

My oh my, you really have been busy haven't you?

Love the base, love the bag, love the pose, ABSOLUTEY LOVE those little fish with the hats! Made me laugh out loud!

I wish you all the luck in the world with your University application, you should use this guy as part of your portfolio! I'm sure they'd love it

:tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Hamilcar]

wethand best of luck with your application! I have a feeling you'll do great. As for this contest, I personally wouldn't break the update rule Aurick seems to be pretty strict on that one. I would suggest just posting a little something (anything really) to keep from breaking the rule.

The rule about the transpose video, I think maybe you are interpreting it too strictly. I think you already have good Transpose movies of you possing the model which you are using in your final entry.

Just my thoughts :) All the Best :)

[Moni-Poroni]

nice update... I have to laugh everytime because ofhis little buddis:lol:
best of luck for next week. I think you´ll do a great job´;)

[Gohanf22]

nice update wethand. very good job. i love the way his buddies are waiting for him in the water. makes me happy. very good job. :tu:

[spimmy]

Looks great wethand, love the details, the pose and the little fish, awesome work dude!:cool:

[wethand]

hey there guys! thank you so much!!! :)

so, i made a compilation of my best works.
and mr. fish HAS to be there!!!! i just love him as a creature! (not the quality, i would never say, i love my images... but it was so much fun to sculpt the whole thing)

my other "best works" (reworks of old models) and a new transpose vid (as soon, as it is uploaded) can be seen in my sketchbook-thread.

Please take a look at: My Sketchbook-thread (http://zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=61103&page=6&pp=15)

again: THIS IS NOT MY FINAL ENTRY!!!!!!!! just a little portfolio-work.

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[maxinkuk]

Mr Fish is priceless here, great atmosphere.
The environment is good but I think that some tweaking of the materials could lift it up to a much more believable point.
That or maybe it's just a bit too bright down there, I don't know for sure.

[wethand]

hey guys,

last time i didn't read all the nice replys... you all are so kind!!! thank you all so much!

finally i had some time to work on my entry again.
some things on the base. i think it looks much more natural with this irregularity...

now its time to start working on the materials and the pose.

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[- FoOD -]

Haha - awesome ...render is looking swish :D:tu:

[SolidSnakexxx]

Hey how did I miss that post! and it was 6 days ago! Really nice man...the great view. simply awesome man. :tu: :tu:

[spimmy]

Hey, Great Render wethand!! Really nice, I look forward to the final entry image, looking wonderful! :tu: :cool:

[threetails]

the renders are coming along nicely. looking good.

[AVTPro]

That's so phenomenal. I like the 3/4 angle the best.
The staging is so great.
I know you are not done but congrats anyway.

[wethand]

hey guys... :)

food: yeah, just ps composing... i thought it would tell a little bit of that story, i thought of... thanks man!

solid: hey mate, no prob. i mean, i was working all the time and i didn't have much time to look in your thread, too. you made an awesome progress, too. thanks! glad you like it. :)

hey spimmy, thanks man! glad you like it. this is PS stuff and i don't know if the rules allow to use it in the final entry... have to read the final entry post again... very soon... :P

hi threetails... i appreciate it very much! thanks! :) but a little bit overpaint here... the final won't have any paint... :)

AVT: thanks maaan! i am very happy to read that!! :) i rally appreciate that!!! :)


and here is my update... the final pose and the capture *PHEW, didn't forget :lol:
he needs a little bit of rework. but thanks to his fat, its not to much.
i think will be the last post before my final entry...
about the algae... i am not sure... with the right material maybe... i'll see and you too :P
yeah, every time the same. but this time i think he holds his hat the best way.... and the opened mouth adds a little bit of dynamic, i think...
hope, you like it

edit: the nails will painted, too... i know the look ****ty... ^^

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[petekasim]

Hey hey wethand! good to have you back :)

I loved the atmospheric lighting on your portfolio piece :tu:

Had a look at your sketchbook too, you have great imagination. I was terrified by that executioner bunny, pretty disturbing!

The irregular posts on the pier are a great choice, one thing I would suggest (but only if you have the spare time), is that the texturing looks kinda "noisy" at this resolution. The barnacles at the bottom are perfect, but the wood seems almost too detailed. Maybe something simpler would read better?

Either way, this is such an entertaining piece I smile every time I see it. Well done and best of luck!

[SolidSnakexxx]

wethand, man I really like the feel of weight to the last board there....Really really cool. :tu:

[maxinkuk]

Such a brilliant piece! I agree with Peter though, the wood is way too noisy.

[Moni-Poroni]

wethand really cool update :)
The last board is awesome!
But I have to agree with petekasim + maxinkuk...
The wooden parts are too noisy...maybe IMHO you should make it smoother (in german : glatter ^^ so wie jetzt lenkt das ein bisschen ab...du hast ja schon viele muster drinne. )
And have you tried a darker colour for the wooden parts? More brown and a little bit more shiny ? )
you have much time left to try it out :)
The colours fit together..but maybe it would look good if everything would be more...(farbenfroher;) )
Hope you know what I mean?
best wishes!

[Agostinuke]

Hey Wethand, thx for the visit on my thread
I really really enjoyed your wip!...good work :tu:

[Marsyas]

Ha! Great character. Really like the scene you have going too. :tu:

[wethand]

hey there,

petekasim: thanks a lot!
and thanks for looking in my sketchbook! :)
thanks for the hint with the texture. i tried to improve it... take a look.. :)

solid: thanks man! yeah, such a fat fish is definetely very heavy :P

maxinkuk: thanks a lot! :) yeah, i changed the texture. many thanks for the post! :)

Moni-Poroni: hey moni. yeah, i tried to make it a little bit... glatter... ^^
the material will be changed for sure! but the color now works, i think. just take a look. :)
do you mean gesättigter? yeah, i don't like such shiny colors... i like this old style... thanks a lot for your help! :)

Agostinuke: thank you very much! glad, you liked it!

Marsyas: thanks a lot. i am not sure about the water... take a look :)

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here is my update and my question:
which one is better? with the pool-like base and the logo, or without?
i would give the whole texture an old dirty touch. but for now it was enough... i tried to get as accurate as possible.
i worked with projection master and polygroups. if someone is interested in the progress, let me know.

PLEASE VOTE: with the pool, or not...

tomorrow i'll finally finish this piece.

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[maxinkuk]

Haaa! You had me laughing out loud. The pool wall is a terrific addition. You must keep that.

[jackdaniels666]

I think the pool wall looks cool but the overall scene is better without it because he is trying to escape. Plus it looks like he might hit his head on the way in. :lol:

[Captain Sensible]

With the pool! But it needs to be dirtier. Way too blue at the moment.

[wethand]

@maxinkuk: haha, thats the purpose of this one! :)

@jackdaniels: lol. yeah, he would definetely jump OUT of the pool! :lol::lol:
but this is not thought as a pool. this only should give the liquidity some room... the podestal... :)

@ captain: here you go, now its DIRTY! :)

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last update:
i thined the poolwalls a little bit and used another technique to add the tiles.
the mask-by-intensity technique (like the shirt)
i made all uv's inside zbrush. i hope you understand my little process-pic.
just a little addition to the pic: areas you hide don't change the UV's when you set some inside zbrush.
and that made it possible to texture and inflat it very accurate!
just learned something new! :))

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[spimmy]

Really nice update, I really like the wall and plaque you have added to finish off the base of your model, really cool work! :cool: :tu: :tu:

[Bas Mazur]

Hehehe, now I know why your name is 'Wethand'. As a fisherman I like your fish! Maybe the wood could have less displacement and more texture. Gut gemacht and keep going!

[Hamilcar]

:lol::lol::lol:That's ridiculous! Looks fantastic and it's making me want to go for a swim:)

[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow, you even add the pool as base.. very cool idea... :tu:

[Lucky_1]

Really nice update Jan !

[Moni-Poroni]

Cool idea. :tu: haha :lol:
Really funny. :)
And thanks for sharing the making of!
I just realized that I never heard something about the "make planar uvs" häh??? :) lol.. I´ll learn that after the contest... and I know who I´m going to ask. :) LOL

[Marsyas]

Ah! Love the brick wall. Very cool. Contains the scene very well. :tu:

[Seavannah]

Wow he is great. I have always had a love for amphibian characters, guess I grew up on too many movies about them. Your model is super cool. Love all the textures you have created for him. That sweater is great and the detail of his body is really awesome. Love that pic you made with the light on him, makes it look as if a helicopter is chasing after him after he steals all that money, a little too bright though. I like the pool idea with the wall around it, maybe you can say he can transport through any body of water to another. Also thanx for sharing your tips and tricks especially the transparency stuff I needed that. Take care and good luck with the contest. Happy Zbrushing. :D

[wethand]

hey there! :)

Spimmy: thanks a lot :) :)

Bas Mazur: thank you very much! if you as a fisherman like my fish, it means a lot to me! the wood now is final!

Hamilcar: thank you! :) but i bet you don't want to swim with mister fish... cause he could be a pervert... i just dunno... :p

solidsnake: thank you very much mate! i hope, the pool isn't to much. but i thought, the idea of something that contains the water could be better... :)

Lucky_1: thanks man!!! i appreciate it!

Moni-Poroni: thanks ma... uhm... woman! :) i bet there are many things you don't know... and yeah, you can ask me every time... :)
just for the little explanation: uv's are the coordinates for the texture... your 3d-model pelt on a 2d-space... but i think, its better to describe it in german one time... just ask :)
i'm happy about every tip i can give... i love helping people.... i dream of teaching... :P

Marsyas: thanks a lot! yeah, it is very clean... i like this technique
(UV's-->alpha texute-->mask by intensity-->inflat)

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oke, this time my final update.
all textures and nearly all materials are done (i don't know the fishmans material... i don't like the shadows... and the details are going under)
the whole scene is done!! WOOOHOOOWWW
Because i build up everything in one single tool the whole thing has... yeah, MANY polys. right now there are 39 mio polys... and my pc is still working... :)
the investment was right!!! :)

now i have to read something about lights in zbrush...
i am still unsure about the perspective i am gonna use in the final...
and i am unsure about my presentation... but i think i am gonna make various pieces (one the model itself without textures, one with textures and base, and one like my portfolio piece)

ah yeah, and i am very proud to say, i ONLY used zbrush. NO other application until now.

here is the "final model" (but not my final render/image/post)

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Awesome...wethand. It's looking amazing...and I think the pool added serves as the base real well. :tu:

[bryzol]

The pool and plate looks great! :)

[Captain Sensible]

Very nice! Good to hear you stayed true to ZBrush on this. I would have dwindled ages ago if I had done the same. You will certainly win a lot of points with the judges. The pool looks very good :tu:

[wethand]

hey guys!

thanks a lot for your comments!

solid: thanks man! i'm glad, you like it! but i am afraid the base is to big to get into the real judgement...

bryzol: thank you very much! :)

captain sensible: thanks mate! yeah, sometimes it was hard to stay inside zbrush... but i have learned SO MUCH during this contest BECAUSE i really wanted to make it all inside zbrush...

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not really an update. after a whole day (yesterday) experimenting with layers, render techniques and lighting i felt ready to try my first true zbrush composing.
and WOW! i didn't know zbrush has SUCH A STRONG depth of field option...
hey, i just LOOOOVE this effect... and i was soooo blown away!!!
damn, i LOVE this tool!!!!

the only problem i had was painting over the final render.
so my little trick: i rendered the image with all effects and materials.
then i exported it as a psd. reimported it to zbrush and painted....

damn... THANKS PIXOLOGIC!!!!

this will be my final image. i couldn't resist to post it before my final post... :)
i only have to make the turntables now. then i am done.
but i am thinking about render it in a huge resolution to make some closeups. there are many details.... and i really like these little friends.. :)

and maybe i want to print it for my room... hey, i am so proud of it :)
you can call me self-opinionated... i call it... proud! :)

final_composing1.jpg (javascript:zb_insimg('127545','final_composing1.jpg',1,0))

fisch_in_bronze.jpg (javascript:zb_insimg('127546','fisch_in_bronze.jpg',1,0))

[SolidSnakexxx]

wethand, the final image's looking so cool! Almost like a rendered full scene. And I don't think the base is too big...as it serves well as the backdrop/stage. You can be self-opinionated ;) and definitely should be proud. Excellent work :tu: :tu:

[wethand]

thank you so much solid!!!

you are the best supporter during the contest!

[goldo_O]

:eek: Wow! You have done such an amazing work Wethand! I really like your entry because it tells a story. And very nice work on the detailing.
Which castle is it in the background?
Ahaha, I just notice that the small fishes have a hat as well:lol::tu:

[wethand]

hey goldo_O

thank you so much!!! when i entered the contest i couldn't imagine to get such a nice feedback... thanks man!!!
this is a german castle called "meissen"

i don't know it... i just typed in google image search "stadt bei nacht" which means "city at night". i mean, i knew i want to blur it very strong.
i hope that is not against the rules....
i found this site: http://www.ferienwohnung-galle-meissen.de/Meissen.html
i'm gonna mention the site in my final post. this has to work... i hope i get not disqualified through this...

but i am happy its recognizable that this is a castle. :)

and now... further work... i want to finish this thing. i like it, but to work so long on a single piece is... you know... lame ^^

[threetails]

nice work, i like the heavy blur and the action in the model, well done. thanks for all the great comments on my thread and good luck to you as we hurl ourselves over the finish line.:lol:

[goldo_O]

Sorry mate, I didn't mean to worry you for the picture. I think you made a very good use of it, by matching the horizon line.
Maybe you could darken the farest part of the pear because we can still see the border of your render: (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127552%27,%27wethand.jpg%27,1,0%29)

wethand.jpg (javascript:zb_insimg('127553','wethand.jpg',1,0))

Again, very nice work! Good luck with the turntable Wethand! Almost done!:tu::tu::tu:

[Moni-Poroni]

Hey great. :tu: :tu: :tu: :)
I really love the final image!
The whole scene fits together.!
And I love the lightning as well. :)
Can´t wait so see your final turntable. :)

[Hamilcar]

Oh!!! Damn that render is looking soooo sic:tu::tu: Awesome work. Looks like you have everything under control...not like me sweating until the last minute.:cry:

[bryzol]

Really great final image! I agree with goldo_O about darkening the picture like he showed. :tu::tu:

[spimmy]

Your renders are turning out awesome mate, great work!!:cool: :tu:

[wethand]

---FINAL ENTRY---


I AM DONE! WOHOW!
sorry that i repeat myself: only zbrush used to create those!
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thank you all for your supernice support!!! it was definetely the most exiting model i ever did. and the most exiting time with zbrush!
there are so many awesome entrys in this contest....
but i had to finish him.

i wish everyone who still works on his image good luck!!!!
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STILL IMAGES (scene):

highres: LINK (http://jandaniel.net/final_highres.jpg)


http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/ZBC/ActionHero/final_highres.jpg




small:
final_small.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127787%27,%27final_small.jpg%27,1,0%29)

closeups:

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final_closeup2.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127789%27,%27final_closeup2.jpg%27,1,0%29)


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STILL IMAGES (model):


textured_1.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127790%27,%27textured_1.jpg%27,1,0%29)

textured_2.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127791%27,%27textured_2.jpg%27,1,0%29)

1.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127792%27,%271.jpg%27,1,0%29)

2.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27127793%27,%272.jpg%27,1,0%29)

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TURNTABLE:


youtube quality sux. please take a look at my highres (27 megs): LINK (http://jandaniel.net/final_turntable.mov)

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FINAL POSING:


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[jackdaniels666]

Your final render is great. I learned a lot from your thread and your posts in mine. Thanks and Good job. :tu:

[Moni-Poroni]

Hey wethand. Your enry was definitely unusual. I had so much fun. :)
And thanks again for all the explanations in german!
Danke! Jannn mit den 3 "n" :lol:

[SolidSnakexxx]

Hey there wethand. This is one very comical piece and great execution. I've learned a lot from you! :tu: :tu:

[Hamilcar]

Congrats! Great work and really great finish. Pixologic should take your idea and make the next contest theme "Fish out of Water":lol::tu::tu:

[Lucky_1]

Jan congratulations with your final...you did a fantastic job!

[spimmy]

Great work matey, loved the details and the final render. Really good job!!! :cool: :tu:

[Etcher]

Hi wethand! Congrats on a job well done! Too bad I didn't get to comment on your work during the contest... :cry: , apologies. It's such a fun sculpt! :tu: !

[petekasim]

Hey hey!

What a contest, eh? You ought to be proud of your entry, thanks for the entertainment you provided with Mr Fish, he's truly one of the most original and entertainling sculpts entered.

I'll be looking forwards to seeing more from you in the forums, keep up the momentum and don't stop :tu:

[Captain Sensible]

I loved this character and was great to see him come together. I will remember this one for a long time. I also thank you for the entertainment value and sharing your ZBrush knowledge :tu: